Halloween 4K UHD (1978)

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by Telemachus

asl?

21/m/Smith’s Grove Sanitarium

[K9 Mark V]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

Worth a blind buy? I've heard good things.

Try the third film first.

[jess1581]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

I'll save that money for Smile 2.

I didn't care for Smile 1.... Too cheesy.

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by jess1581

I didn't care for Smile 1.... Too cheesy.

I haven't seen it. I like to go into sequels blind.

[Telemachus]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

I like to go into sequels blind.

I read that as blind seagulls

[MasonStorm]

anyone seen this yet and know if this s the true colour grade argument settled once and for all or just false?? the debate that never ends so am just wondering if people feel its legit or not because it sure is orange

Halloween(1978) 35mm VS Blu-ray, Laurie and Annie driving, sunset. - YouTube

[MassiveMovieBuff]

^That clip sure is curious. There have been other reports of 35mm print screenings looking closer to the 2013 BD though but I'll say this. Joe Bob Briggs stated on one of his Last Drive In episodes when he covered Halloween that Dean Cundey said he specifically copied the color palette of the film Chinatown for Halloween and up until seeing this clip I had no idea what he meant.

[JohnCarpenterFan]

Sadly with a lot of these 35mm fan scans, the pertinent details which should be easy to provide usually aren't disclosed so it's hard to tell whether something could be accurate or not.

I've not seen an original 35mm print of Halloween in a long time and I can't remember the daytime scenes looking that orange at all. The reason why I've not seen an original print in so long is because Halloween came out right between the end of IB Tech printing in the US and before the introduction of LPP so the original US prints went magenta long ago.

IB Tech printing continued internationally for a few years after it was discontinued in the US although I'm not sure if Halloween ever had IB Tech prints at all. This could all be cleared up if the owner of the print could actually provide pictures of the reels showing any codes.

[Energy Crisis]

Originally Posted by MasonStorm

anyone seen this yet and know if this s the true colour grade argument settled once and for all or just false?? the debate that never ends so am just wondering if people feel its legit or not because it sure is orange Halloween(1978) 35mm VS Blu-ray, Laurie and Annie driving, sunset. - YouTube

That is definitely a fading Eastman print. No question. The blues and greens are just about gone. I used to have an original 16mm and while the color was starting to turn while I had it, it wasn't anywhere near that bad.

Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterFan

Sadly with a lot of these 35mm fan scans, the pertinent details which should be easy to provide usually aren't disclosed so it's hard to tell whether something could be accurate or not.

I've not seen an original 35mm print of Halloween in a long time and I can't remember the daytime scenes looking that orange at all. The reason why I've not seen an original print in so long is because Halloween came out right between the end of IB Tech printing in the US and before the introduction of LPP so the original US prints went magenta long ago.

IB Tech printing continued internationally for a few years after it was discontinued in the US although I'm not sure if Halloween ever had IB Tech prints at all. This could all be cleared up if the owner of the print could actually provide pictures of the reels showing any codes.

Never heard of an IB Tech Halloween. I've only heard of Eastman 35mm US prints of the theatrical version in circulation (some LPP tv prints on 16mm and I think some foreign Afgacolor prints).

[Telemachus]

I want to watch Halloween from inside a shark aquarium smeared with yellow and teal gels and mono sound through a tin can on a string it doesn't get no better than that

[mad_max2000]

Originally Posted by Telemachus

I want to watch Halloween from inside a shark aquarium smeared with yellow and teal gels and mono sound through a tin can on a string it doesn't get no better than that

Sounds like the l'immagine Ritrovata transfer of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.

[Telemachus]

If it's good enough for Italy it's good enough for me

[KubrickKurasawa]

Originally Posted by Telemachus

I want to watch Halloween from inside a shark aquarium smeared with yellow and teal gels and mono sound through a tin can on a string it doesn't get no better than that

3D glasses make everything better.

[Telemachus]

Originally Posted by KubrickKurasawa

3D glasses make everything better.

3D glasses + Atmos soundbar is what life's about

[JohnCarpenterFan]

Originally Posted by Energy Crisis

That is definitely a fading Eastman print. No question. The blues and greens are just about gone. I used to have an original 16mm and while the color was starting to turn while I had it, it wasn't anywhere near that bad.



Never heard of an IB Tech Halloween. I've only heard of Eastman 35mm US prints of the theatrical version in circulation (some LPP tv prints on 16mm and I think some foreign Afgacolor prints).

I've never heard of an IB Tech Halloween either and such a print existing would seem unlikely. I wondered if the 35mm print footage was an attempt to inject some color into a faded print. I just don't understand what the point of a comparison with a faded print would accomplish or why someone would want to regrade the Blu-ray to match a faded print.

[jeff BD]

Thanks for ruining this film guys. Now all im gonna do is focus on the foliage and wonder if that sound effect was there in '78

[Noir Black Schwarz]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

I'm still waiting on an Atmos track that beats a mono track.

Originally Posted by gj217

By actually using the original sound effects and score recordings.

Originally Posted by crissrudd4554

Revisions were made to the mix (new sound effects for example) that don’t reflect the original sound design we’re made when converting the audio to surround. It’s not just a matter of expanding the mix to additional channels. Other revisions were made.

None of that tells me how a mono track is better than an Atmos track though.

My ears hear cleaner audio, more audio, louder, boomier audio coming out of my speakers with the Atmos track. How is a mono track, which is typically low key and I have to turn my system up really high to get the same effect, better.

I hope that makes sense.

[KubrickKurasawa]

Originally Posted by Telemachus

3D glasses + Atmos soundbar is what life's about

It was and then they devolved us back to the land of the Laserdisc monkeys. Hopefully we get some Laserdisc Halloween audio and color timing on 4K soon

[Kyle15]

Originally Posted by Noir Black Schwarz

None of that tells me how a mono track is better than an Atmos track though.

My ears hear cleaner audio, more audio, louder, boomier audio coming out of my speakers with the Atmos track. How is a mono track, which is typically low key and I have to turn my system up really high to get the same effect, better.

I hope that makes sense.

It's been explained over and over again. If you don't get it, don't worry about it. You just simply have no idea what you're talking about.

[crissrudd4554]

Originally Posted by Noir Black Schwarz

None of that tells me how a mono track is better than an Atmos track though.

My ears hear cleaner audio, more audio, louder, boomier audio coming out of my speakers with the Atmos track. How is a mono track, which is typically low key and I have to turn my system up really high to get the same effect, better.

I hope that makes sense.

For literally the reasons we mentioned. For some people it’s content over quality and further more the mono included on the 4K is an inferior version of the mono anyways so it’s not exactly a fair comparison. Case and point I think the mono included on the BD/4K of Jaws is dull in spots but given how much I hate the revised sound effects in the Atmos mix the mono they’ve included is the track for me. Not the best quality wise but if I’m gonna feel at home with the movie that’s what I got. You’re more for the quality aspect of the track, but for others there’s other things that are being considered.