Jack Reacher 4K UHD (2012)

[ROSS.T.G.]

It’s one of the more consistent franchises. It’s rare to see a franchise bounce back the way it did after the criticism of 2 and not to mention audiences mixed feelings for Tom Cat. The stunts are a big reason why the series continues today.

[fighthefutureofhd]

True, but I feel like now it is more about crazy over the top stunts and less about actual plotting.

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

There is a ton.
The opening alone is massive, not counting the bike chase the biotech fight and the fight at the end.

That's not really what I am referring to. All the Mission Impossible movies have big stunts, but I'm talking about big stunts involving Tom Cruise that go beyond the levels of normal stunt working. In MI:2 there's maybe two-three at best. In Rouge Nation, there are at the very least 3. The stunt with the airplane door, the stunt inside the tank full of water without an oxygen tank, and the motorcycle chase.

All are very impressive and I love to watch them, but at the end of the day, they feel like they're just there to show off what crazy stunt Tom can do by himself. I like the last two Mission Impossible movies as much as anyone and it is partly due to the amount of practical stunt filming that occurs. But I can't help feeling like the stunts are just there to show off what crazy thing Tom will do next. In comparison to the first 3 the last two Mission Impossible movies, to me, don't hold up as well.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

True, but I feel like now it is more about crazy over the top stunts and less about actual plotting.




That's not really what I am referring to. All the Mission Impossible movies have big stunts, but I'm talking about big stunts involving Tom Cruise that go beyond the levels of normal stunt working. In MI:2 there's maybe two-three at best. In Rouge Nation, there are at the very least 3. The stunt with the airplane door, the stunt inside the tank full of water without an oxygen tank, and the motorcycle chase.

All are very impressive and I love to watch them, but at the end of the day, they feel like they're just there to show off what crazy stunt Tom can do by himself. I like the last two Mission Impossible movies as much as anyone and it is partly due to the amount of practical stunt filming that occurs. But I can't help feeling like the stunts are just there to show off what crazy thing Tom will do next. In comparison to the first 3 the last two Mission Impossible movies, to me, don't hold up as well.

The rock climbing and the knife in the eyeball well above most stunts.
But they have to one up each film, 3 is the one with the least for me personally.

[DJR662]

Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

It’s one of the more consistent franchises. It’s rare to see a franchise bounce back the way it did after the criticism of 2 and not to mention audiences mixed feelings for Tom Cat. The stunts are a big reason why the series continues today.

And still I wouldn't mind if the series went back to more spy thriller stuff instead of just pure action (like the first one), and I definitely wouldn't mind if they would dial back the humor a bit.

[levcore]

I can understand those sentiments but I applaud this series to trying to raise the bar in terms of practical stunt work in this day and age.

[fighthefutureofhd]

I do too, and it's one of the reasons I'm so excited for the new one coming out next month. I just wish that they had a bit of a better story to go along with the stunt work so that it doesn't feel like Tom's trying to outdo himself. Like there is actually a better reason in the plot for the stunts Tom is doing. It doesn't stop me from enjoying the movies at all. It would just make them better.

[alexanderg823]

Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

All are very impressive and I love to watch them, but at the end of the day, they feel like they're just there to show off what crazy stunt Tom can do by himself. I like the last two Mission Impossible movies as much as anyone and it is partly due to the amount of practical stunt filming that occurs. But I can't help feeling like the stunts are just there to show off what crazy thing Tom will do next. In comparison to the first 3 the last two Mission Impossible movies, to me, don't hold up as well.

I mean, are you trying to argue that it is a bad thing?

We all know he's a nutter. But it's TC, a true Hollywood action star and one of the few living breathing OT 8s. A legend.


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[Aston_Martin_DB5]

My zoom order has been dispatched, so hopefully gonna be watching this movie this weekend.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

True, but I feel like now it is more about crazy over the top stunts and less about actual plotting.




That's not really what I am referring to. All the Mission Impossible movies have big stunts, but I'm talking about big stunts involving Tom Cruise that go beyond the levels of normal stunt working. In MI:2 there's maybe two-three at best. In Rouge Nation, there are at the very least 3. The stunt with the airplane door, the stunt inside the tank full of water without an oxygen tank, and the motorcycle chase.

All are very impressive and I love to watch them, but at the end of the day, they feel like they're just there to show off what crazy stunt Tom can do by himself. I like the last two Mission Impossible movies as much as anyone and it is partly due to the amount of practical stunt filming that occurs. But I can't help feeling like the stunts are just there to show off what crazy thing Tom will do next. In comparison to the first 3 the last two Mission Impossible movies, to me, don't hold up as well.

The problem with the stunts in MI is that each subsequent sequel relies more heavily on CGI to accomplish said stunts. The water tank and the car flipping backward are two glaring examples. If they can't complete the stunt in-camera... then don't do it!!

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

The problem with the stunts in MI is that each subsequent sequel relies more heavily on CGI to accomplish said stunts. The water tank and the car flipping backward are two glaring examples. If they can't complete the stunt in-camera... then don't do it!!

There are like 17 stunts in those films, and like 2 bits are CGI? Insurance carriers let Cruise get away with a lot but he is not magic.

[Sky_Captain]

Originally Posted by Aston_Martin_DB5

My zoom order has been dispatched, so hopefully gonna be watching this movie this weekend.

Same, but it's the Mission: Impossible set I'm busting for.

[Aston_Martin_DB5]

Originally Posted by Sky_Captain

Same, but it's the Mission: Impossible set I'm busting for.

Same here.

[Fat Phil]

Originally Posted by Sky_Captain

Same, but it's the Mission: Impossible set I'm busting for.

Has your MI set been dispatched yet Cap? My Jack Reacher is on the way, but still no boxset notification for me.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

The problem with the stunts in MI is that each subsequent sequel relies more heavily on CGI to accomplish said stunts. The water tank and the car flipping backward are two glaring examples. If they can't complete the stunt in-camera... then don't do it!!

Sounds like the attitude on the Deadpool 2 set - look what happened there.


There is plenty of actual stuntwork in the M:I films and they do NOT rely on CGI other than safety cable removal.

[Sky_Captain]

Originally Posted by Fat Phil

Has your MI set been dispatched yet Cap? My Jack Reacher is on the way, but still no boxset notification for me.

Same here, bud.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Sounds like the attitude on the Deadpool 2 set - look what happened there.


There is plenty of actual stuntwork in the M:I films and they do NOT rely on CGI other than safety cable removal.

Any stunt can be dangerous and mishaps do happen, unfortunately. And the last MI had plenty of CG besides wire removal.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

The problem with the stunts in MI is that each subsequent sequel relies more heavily on CGI to accomplish said stunts. The water tank and the car flipping backward are two glaring examples. If they can't complete the stunt in-camera... then don't do it!!

Hmmmm. Certain set-pieces will always have a bit of CG enhancement these days but the commitment to doing so much of the underlying stuff practically is a god-send in this series of films. One terribad flipping CG car doesn't undermine that, and plenty of older movies relied on VFX/SFX (miniatures, matte paintings, process shots etc) to accomplish what a full-size stunt simply could not do because of safety, expense, or both, and just like today you had some stuff that was crap and some stuff that was golden. We still get a shitload of goodness that you'd never see any other actor even dream of doing so I don't see what the problem is, it's when this series goes full CG with all the stunts is when the panic button gets pressed. Never go full CGtard.

[Aston_Martin_DB5]

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[Boston007]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Hmmmm. Certain set-pieces will always have a bit of CG enhancement these days but the commitment to doing so much of the underlying stuff practically is a god-send in this series of films. One terribad flipping CG car doesn't undermine that, and plenty of older movies relied on VFX/SFX (miniatures, matte paintings, process shots etc) to accomplish what a full-size stunt simply could not do because of safety, expense, or both, and just like today you had some stuff that was crap and some stuff that was golden. We still get a shitload of goodness that you'd never see any other actor even dream of doing so I don't see what the problem is, it's when this series goes full CG with all the stunts is when the panic button gets pressed. Never go full CGtard.

*cough* BLACK PANTHER *cough*

[aetherhole]

I picked up my copy of this film. Even a minor improvement makes this an easy double dip. I'll be watching it over the weekend!