The Hobbit Trilogy 4K UHD Extended & Theatrical (2012-2014)

[rexcrk]

Originally Posted by LoSouL

There's also a reason he wrote the Lord of the Rings much more extensively, because he knew you could do more with a story that way.

So it could be said that Jackson took a more wizened Tolkien's approach to handling his previous work.

Bingo. As I’ve said before, people just became more and more jaded and cynical and would rather see things in a negative way than a positive one. Me? I look at these movies and praise that we get to spend more time in this gorgeous cinematic Middle-earth, with as much Tolkien material as possible.

[rexcrk]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Five Armies does still feel truncated even in the EE, I hope Jackson gets to deliver a longer cut one of these days. But today is not this day.

The action sequences are amazing in that movie, especially a lot of the Extended stuff, but the one missed opportunity I think there is in that movie is the lack of Beorn rage. You got an R rating, Jackson! Use it! lol

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by rexcrk

The action sequences are amazing in that movie, especially a lot of the Extended stuff, but the one missed opportunity I think there is in that movie is the lack of Beorn rage. You got an R rating, Jackson! Use it! lol

It's more the winding down of the movie I'd like to see expanded, like Thorin's funeral which is very short in the EE. There's also the prologue which showed why Thranduil's people disliked the Dwarves so much.

Originally Posted by rexcrk

Bingo. As I’ve said before, people just became more and more jaded and cynical and would rather see things in a negative way than a positive one. Me? I look at these movies and praise that we get to spend more time in this gorgeous cinematic Middle-earth, with as much Tolkien material as possible.

In some ways I agree with this, in some ways I just see the same Star Wars prequel arguments over and over.

In both instances I'm not sure that people have become THAT much more "cynical" but it's that both sets of prequels have less of the sense of doom and threat that permeates the originals, seemingly replacing it with CG theme park rides. The stakes don't feel as high as a result and, funnily enough, both don't really have a proper 'big bad' either, just phantom menaces to distract from the main one that's pulling the strings.

I do still enjoy the Hobbitses a heck of a lot, it's LOTR 0.5 as much as it is The Hobbit (the extra ring lore that Jackson put into the H EEs makes that distinction even clearer) and I'm so glad I can enjoy them as one big six (or twelve ) part series. Though I do hope that Jackson finds a better place for the disc break in the Smaug EE, it's very awkwardly situated.

[Alister_M]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I do still enjoy the Hobbitses a heck of a lot, it's LOTR 0.5 as much as it is The Hobbit (the extra ring lore that Jackson put into the H EEs makes that distinction even clearer) and I'm so glad I can enjoy them as one big six (or twelve ) part series. Though I do hope that Jackson finds a better place for the disc break in the Smaug EE, it's very awkwardly situated.

I suspect the Hobbit EE's might be single BD-100s, since the regular EE BDs were all single discs.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Alister_M

I suspect the Hobbit EE's might be single BD-100s, since the regular EE BDs were all single discs.

Aye, I'm thinking of the disc break in the 3D edition! They're short enough that they'd work and because they're digitally shot anyway there's less of that grain stuff to worry about.

[nick4Knight]

Originally Posted by rexcrk

Bingo. As I’ve said before, people just became more and more jaded and cynical and would rather see things in a negative way than a positive one. Me? I look at these movies and praise that we get to spend more time in this gorgeous cinematic Middle-earth, with as much Tolkien material as possible.

Criticizing the hobbit trilogy for being stretched out and for 'adding things not in the book' is just super lazy argumentation of a lot of people. That's surface issues. The root of the problems with fans of the original movies and these is a) Peter Jackson went into the Hobbit movies out of DUTY, not out of PASSION, and b) He relied way too much on CGI to bring the characters to life... or not, as it turned out!

I'm not more cynical about The Hobbit films than I should be (I like Mortal Engines, Robin Hood and Tomb Raider [2018's] ffs) in that I make some assertion there was no reason to make a trilogy from a kids book, etc etc. I just can't fool myself into thinking these two major pitfalls listed above didn't greatly weaken the connection I might have with the story if they had not been present detriments.

There IS a sense of detachment running through the whole trilogy and aside from certain engaging sequences in the first one, the Gollum and Smaug performances; overall it all just smacks of a videogame cutscene.

[spider-neil]

I've just picked up The Hobbit Extended Cut and the bonus features are amazing. Hours and hours of it.

[1924]

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[Nothing371]

Originally Posted by rexcrk

Bingo. As I’ve said before, people just became more and more jaded and cynical and would rather see things in a negative way than a positive one. Me? I look at these movies and praise that we get to spend more time in this gorgeous cinematic Middle-earth, with as much Tolkien material as possible.

No, in fact other people aren't wrong for feeling the way they feel about the pacing and the length of these movies.

[rexcrk]

Originally Posted by Nothing371

No, in fact other people aren't wrong for feeling the way they feel about the pacing and the length of these movies.

I mean, they’re all shorter than each Lord of the Rings movie. Hell, Five Armies is surprisingly short for a Middle-earth movie.

That’s not to say everything about them works. I still think the chase on the way to Rivendell is kind of stupid, and the “out of the frying pan” sequence is a bit much too (especially after the awesome Goblin Town).

But all the extra character-y bits and the world building, I can’t get enough of.

[Fang Zei]

I still haven’t seen the extended cuts of Smaug and Battle. I caught all three in the theater in hfr 3D (the first two in LieMax), but it took me until it had already been in theaters for a couple months to actually get around to seeing Five Armies. I’m pretty sure I caught what must have been the very last hfr screening in the DC area on a cold February Thursday back in 2015.

When the LotR films were coming out, I picked up the theatrical and extended dvd’s as they were coming out. I even remember going to a midnight madness event for the theatrical dvd of The Two Towers. When the Hobbit films were coming out, I waited to get the extended bd of Unexpected Journey ... and that was it.

It’s amazing how much your relationship to a property can change over the course of a decade.

[Vashetti]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Five Armies does still feel truncated even in the EE, I hope Jackson gets to deliver a longer cut one of these days. But today is not this day.

I remember them promising something like 30 minutes, but it only ended up being around 18 if I remember correctly?

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by Fang Zei

I still haven’t seen the extended cuts of Smaug and Battle. I caught all three in the theater in hfr 3D (the first two in LieMax), but it took me until it had already been in theaters for a couple months to actually get around to seeing Five Armies. I’m pretty sure I caught what must have been the very last hfr screening in the DC area on a cold February Thursday back in 2015.

When the LotR films were coming out, I picked up the theatrical and extended dvd’s as they were coming out. I even remember going to a midnight madness event for the theatrical dvd of The Two Towers. When the Hobbit films were coming out, I waited to get the extended bd of Unexpected Journey ... and that was it.

It’s amazing how much your relationship to a property can change over the course of a decade.

I definitely think The Hobbit is going to get remade. Maybe even on a streaming platform like Netflix. I don't think Lord of the Rings will get remade as that trilogy is beloved.

[King Crimson]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

I definitely think The Hobbit is going to get remade. Maybe even on a streaming platform like Netflix. I don't think Lord of the Rings will get remade as that trilogy is beloved.

Amazon

[levcore]

Originally Posted by rexcrk

The action sequences are amazing in that movie, especially a lot of the Extended stuff, but the one missed opportunity I think there is in that movie is the lack of Beorn rage. You got an R rating, Jackson! Use it! lol

Yeah the lack of any major Beorn carnage is pretty baffling and i was expecting a lot more of it in the EE but it's just not there. Considering how all out Jackson likes to go with action and VFX, it's really surprising he didn't stick an extended Beorn attack sequence in the battle.

[Lope de Aguirre]

I love the "The Hobbit" trilogy!
Can't wait!

[Pieter V]

Latest news is a possible October 2020 release date.

https://www.4kfilme.de/herr-der-ring...u-ray-geplant/

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

Latest news is a possible October 2020 release date.

https://www.4kfilme.de/herr-der-ring...u-ray-geplant/

a 30 Disc edition !? whaaaaaat ?

[XavierTheaterPotato]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

Latest news is a possible October 2020 release date.

https://www.4kfilme.de/herr-der-ring...u-ray-geplant/

If the US Release of each film gets those cover artworks I won't mind. I love them for LOTR but the Hobbit is a bit of an "eh" but fine. I swear if it's those damn book disc slide out packaging nonsense.

[Dubstar]

60fps + Dolby Atmos ... ...