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Old 01-29-2015, 07:03 AM   #1
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The Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) has apparently sounded the death knell for 3D movies, according to a leaked PowerPoint slide that purports to show the near-finalised specifications for its next-generation Ultra HD Blu-ray format.



According to the slide, which was posted by Japanese tech site AV Watch, the soon-to-be-released Ultra HD Blu-ray format ensures that future media will be able to handle higher resolution content of up to 3840×2160, plus higher frame rates of up to 60fps. In addition it will also support a much wider colour gamut than the current Blu-Ray disc format, up to Rec.2020 or BT2020 colour space, 10-bit colour depth, and a peak video bit-rate of 100Mbps.

While it’s great news for anyone who’s itching to get their hands on native 4K content to watch, the proposed specs won’t please everyone – because there seems to be no mention whatsoever of 3D in ultra high-definition (UHD) resolution.

Admittedly 3D TV has proven itself to be a bit of a lame duck in the living room – it’s not as if there’s legions of fans out there screaming for it, but this piece of news will further aggravate the few aficionados of stereoscopic films out there. The implication is that viewers will be forced to choose between watching their movies at either 4K in 2D, or regular full HD resolution in 3D, despite the fact that HDMI 2.0 has more than enough bandwidth to support 3-D at 4K Ultra HD resolution.

That may be so, but given the overall disappointing reception 3D has had among consumers, it’s hardly surprising. The overall consensus with most home viewers is that 3D just doesn’t quite cut the mustard, mainly because no one enjoys wearing those ridiculous goggles while sitting on the couch. In other words, movie makers just can’t be bothered persevering with something that few people like, which means the current 1080p frame-packed 3D Blu-rays will be the highest resolution for whatever handful of 3D fans left…
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Guess if I want a 4K player, I'll have to keep my old one for 3D too. If I had to pick between 3D and 4K, I'd pick 3D. There is just some jaw-dropping 3D out there that I will never grow tired of.
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Old 01-29-2015, 07:55 AM   #3
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Guess if I want a 4K player, I'll have to keep my old one for 3D too. If I had to pick between 3D and 4K, I'd pick 3D. There is just some jaw-dropping 3D out there that I will never grow tired of.
I have to agree. I have a 4k 8700 Samsung that I thoroughly enjoy the 3d viewing.
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Old 01-29-2015, 09:19 AM   #4
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Guess if I want a 4K player, I'll have to keep my old one for 3D too. If I had to pick between 3D and 4K, I'd pick 3D. There is just some jaw-dropping 3D out there that I will never grow tired of.
No Ultra HD players should play 1080p Blu-Ray 3Ds just fine. There are two problems with 4k 3D. One is most 4k televisions are polarized and thus half the resolution of 3D video anyway and an even bigger problem is that the vast majority of 3D movies have 2k digital finishes and a 4k 3D presentation would require an expensive re rendering most studios probably won't invest in. Also 4k 3D can always be added to the spec later just as it was for 1080p Bluray
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Old 01-29-2015, 09:34 AM   #5
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What does the HDR EOTF and static metadata standards they have there mean?
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Old 01-29-2015, 09:45 AM   #6
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Heh. I love the way they've keystoned that image to make it look like an off angle photo, when the actual 'leaked' slides are available to see here and have been for a couple of weeks: http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/s...13_683374.html

Anyhoo, this is old news in the 4K BD thread and it's no surprise. I've been saying for the longest time that there's no theatrical or home standard for 4K 3D and, according to the BDA, that situation isn't gonna change any time soon.

Me, I'd take 4K flat every time. I do love 3D, really I do, but I've never been able to see it at it's best on the various 3D TVs that I've bought over the years (passive is great but half res, active looks better but has sooooo much crosstalk) and wearing glasses already makes wearing the extra goggles less than comfortable. If this is the beginning of the end, then so be it.
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Old 01-29-2015, 10:38 AM   #7
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Another thing worth noting is that the present HEVC spec also lacks a 3D standard similar to the MVC. Supposedly it will be finalized this summer

My guess is 2160p 3D will come in a couple years
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no reason to buy HDMI 2.0 spec equipment because they already revealed a new standard is being released in 12-14 months
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no reason to buy HDMI 2.0 spec equipment because they already revealed a new standard is being released in 12-14 months
link?
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