Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[HaroldnMaude]

Originally Posted by jmclick

D.W. Griffith's The Birth of a Nation is down to 48 remaining copies at SAE. It is also the top-selling title of the week at SAE.

I wonder if this is people who slready know about TT, or people whose interest has been piqued due to all the recent protests about racism, reading about this film online, googling and finding it available, and wanting to see for themselves such a notorious film?

[bdgking]

SAE low quantity update :

Birth of a Nation Just Sold Out

Zelig = under 65 units remain

[chad_1138]

SAE Shipping Rate Policy:

"USA: $6.40 for the first disc and $2.00 for each additional disc. Don't forget to add $2.00 for each disc in multiple CD sets."

...not saying it's not high, just putting it out there for those who are curious.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by HaroldnMaude

I wonder if this is people who slready know about TT, or people whose interest has been piqued due to all the recent protests about racism, reading about this film online, googling and finding it available, and wanting to see for themselves such a notorious film?

I was wondering that myself.

[Brandon K]

Originally Posted by chad_1138

"USA: $6.40 for the first disc and $2.00 for each additional disc. Don't forget to add $2.00 for each disc in multiple CD sets."

Yeah, that's why it definitely pays to order a higher number of titles at once, as it brings down the per-item cost.

There's also this news update from back in January:

We are sorry to inform you that due to excessive loss and damages, we will now no longer be offering the Media Mail shipping option. All US orders will only be shipped via First Class Mail and Priority Mail Services...

On the topic of inventory checking,

Originally Posted by bdgking

SAE low quantity update :

Birth of a Nation Just Sold Out

Zelig = under 65 units remain

How do you know the inventory on 50+ titles?

So from before you edited your post, in short order, it went from 48 to 45 to 0. Incidentally, I can confirm that SAE's inventory system is instantaneous. Do the 50-check method, assuming it's less than 50 place an order, do the 50-check method again, and you'll see your order quantity has been immediately deducted from the inventory. So did 45 people all suddenly rush to the site? Or, more likely, I wouldn't be surprised if a single reseller bought all 45 copies at once.

[bdgking]

Originally Posted by Brandon K

Yeah, that's why it definitely pays to order a higher number of titles at once, as it brings down the per-item cost.

There's also this news update from back in January:


On the topic of inventory checking,

How do you know the inventory on 50+ titles?

So from before you edited your post, in short order, it went from 48 to 45 to 0. Incidentally, I can confirm that SAE's inventory system is instantaneous. Do the 50-check method, assuming it's less than 50 place an order, do the 50-check method again, and you'll see your order quantity has been immediately deducted from the inventory. So did 45 people all suddenly rush to the site? Or, more likely, I wouldn't be surprised if a single reseller bought all 45 copies at once.

I will not give out how I know but I do . If anyone places an order for 16 or more they will see it go under 50 then you will see I am right

[sprocket]

Originally Posted by Brandon K

So did 45 people all suddenly rush to the site? Or, more likely, I wouldn't be surprised if a single reseller bought all 45 copies at once.

I checked BoaN about an hour ago and it was at 45 units. SAE may just yank a listing at a certain inventory level to avoid the necessity of cancelling orders if it turns out they have less units than they thought.

Originally Posted by HaroldnMaude

I wonder if this is people who slready know about TT, or people whose interest has been piqued due to all the recent protests about racism, reading about this film online, googling and finding it available, and wanting to see for themselves such a notorious film?

I was one of the people who bought BoaN in the last few days (before the low stock warning).

Even knowing about the blatant racism in the movie, I decided at the price point, the praised first part of the movie would be enough of an attraction. I could see myself down the line getting other D.W. Griffith movies and regretting not buying BoaN.

The release also seemed to be a well-rounded package, which would give an appropriate context to the film. I thought it was a better package in that regard than the Kino version, for instance, and probably better than any subsequent release.

[thebalconyfool]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

Got my shipping notification! Ordered May 11! Number 75xXx!!!

Hooray! Gives hope to those of us in the May 11th boat! I'm at 76xxx.

[Rayjg]

People are most likely worried the film will join the ranks of the permanently disappeared soon. Eskimo Pies just bit the dust.

[DavidRoylance]

I've just paid anothe £12 in tax for my 3rd TT direct order. It means I get it on Tuesday. Ordering direct via TT has proven significantly more expensive for me than SAE.

[Professor Echo]

Originally Posted by Rayjg

People are most likely worried the film will join the ranks of the permanently disappeared soon. Eskimo Pies just bit the dust.

I honestly think if BIRTH OF A NATION wasn’t public domain, it might have been buried already.

What time is the book burning party?

[mep]

Originally Posted by HaroldnMaude

I wonder if this is people who slready know about TT, or people whose interest has been piqued due to all the recent protests about racism, reading about this film online, googling and finding it available, and wanting to see for themselves such a notorious film?

I don´t think that very many common people who maybe read about that particular silent movie regarding the recent protests actually searched for a physical copy, found Twilight Time and ordered from them. If you are not a physical media collector like us, I´d say if you would be interested in a hundred year old black and white Silent movie at all, you would search for it online or digital or streaming - but not on a physical disc from a boutique label.

But I could see, that many BD collectors see that the Twilight of physical media is actually dawning and quite a few titles could also be seen as not appropriate anymore. The current health crisis also fasten this situation. Here in Germany the last huge brick & mortal chain announced that they will close almost half of their currently remaining stores. I think we will see many, many more closing companies during the next few months and years, especially companies which are mainly dealing with physical non-essential goods.

I bought BOAN already a couple of months ago, because one could see, that the company was struggling and I cannot see another company will give this title a grand release on physical media anytime soon ever again. I also bought many Fox titles, because I actually don´t think Disney will be interested to re-release most of the Fox back-catalog physical anymore. The current situation will also speed up those trends. The Streaming and VoD releases will become even more important and lucrative for them. I also bought movies like Tropic Thunder and The Blue Lagoon. I think those kind of movies will be seen as liabilities by their right holders very, very soon and maybe not worth the potentially trouble to release or deal with them at all anymore.

[jmclick]

Four additional titles have recently sold out on the Twilight Time website:

Broken Lance
The Quiet American
Suddenly Last Summer
Warlock

That leaves 49 Twilight Time titles left for sale, including the Twilight Time/Redwing release of Sunshine. Here is an updated list, ordered by ascending price, with 20th Century Fox releases noted:

[Show spoiler]Twilight Time Final Closeout Sale Prices (49)

$3.95 (3)
Carla's Song
Fatherland [AKA Singing The Blues in Red]

$6.95 (5)
Children of Huang Shi, The
In My Country
Kings Go Forth
Little House, The [Chiisai Ouchi]
Virgin Soldiers, The

$10.95 (1)
Sunshine (Twilight Time/Redwing)

$11.95 (40)

10 North Frederick 20th Century-Fox
A Man Called Peter 20th Century-Fox
Admirable Crichton, The [AKA Paradise Lagoon]
Adventures of Hajji Baba, The 20th Century-Fox
Antony and Cleopatra
Baby the Rain Must Fall
Bandolero! 20th Century-Fox
Behold A Pale Horse
Beneath The 12-Mile Reef 20th Century-Fox
Big Fix, The
Blue Denim 20th Century-Fox
Bobby Deerfield
Chairman, The 20th Century-Fox
Chase, The
Genghis Khan
Hello, Frisco, Hello 20th Century-Fox
Hilda Crane 20th Century-Fox
Hussy
Morituri 20th Century-Fox
Mother Wore Tights 20th Century-Fox
My Gal Sal 20th Century-Fox
Pin Up Girl 20th Century-Fox
President's Lady, The 20th Century-Fox
Quiller Memorandum, The 20th Century-Fox
Return of Frank James, The 20th Century-Fox
River's Edge, The 20th Century-Fox
Russia House, The
Satan Never Sleeps 20th Century-Fox
Snake Pit, The 20th Century-Fox
Stagecoach [1966] 20th Century-Fox
Take A Girl Like You
Tall Men, The 20th Century-Fox
Three Coins In The Fountain 20th Century-Fox
True Story of Jesse James, The 20th Century-Fox
Untamed 20th Century-Fox
Whole Town's Talking, The
Wild In The Country 20th Century-Fox
X Y & Zee
Yanks
Yellow Handkerchief, The [Shiawase no Kiiroi Hankachi]

[hoytereden]

My order of 11 titles arrived today. I’ve never had a Sunday USPS delivery before so I was pleasantly surprised. The order was placed on Mother’s Day and arrived on Father’s Day!

[UnionJackMix]

My second big sale order has also shipped. I had forgotten about that order!

[Aclea]

Originally Posted by Professor Echo

I honestly think if BIRTH OF A NATION wasn’t public domain, it might have been buried already.

It cuts both ways. On the other side of the political/racial divide Nate Parker's 2016 Birth of a Nation went from festival circuit darling and potential breakout hit and Oscar slamdunk to "We don't want to talk about it" overnight after his past came to light. I can see Disney letting that one quietly slip out of print.

[UnionJackMix]

Originally Posted by Professor Echo

I honestly think if BIRTH OF A NATION wasn’t public domain, it might have been buried already.

What time is the book burning party?

I think and hope that there are more people in favor of not pretending these movies, history, racism itself do not exist than those who want to allow for censure or force companies to.

Also, just like music still exists on physical media and the existence of vinyl records is a clear indication that movies will keep on being released on discs so those who keep on saying it will happen just need to stop trying to will it into existence.

[Brandon K]

Originally Posted by jmclick

That leaves 49 Twilight Time titles left for sale ... Here is an updated list, ordered by ascending price, with 20th Century Fox releases noted

Okay fine, you made me do it... I placed another order for some Fox titles!

I'm now up to 6 orders from TT and 11 from SAE, for a total of 73 titles. Just anxiously awaiting the announcement of those archive titles...

- First order: TT #720xx, ordered 5/10
- Last order: TT #797xx, ordered 6/21

So by my count, TT has had about 7,700 orders since the start of the sale.

[TheMGR]

Suddenly got shipping notices today for all three of my pending TT orders (5/11, 5/14 and 5/21; 8, 8 and 6 titles respectively)

[hariseldon]

Originally Posted by Brandon K

Okay fine, you made me do it... I placed another order for some Fox titles!

I'm now up to 6 orders from TT and 11 from SAE, for a total of 73 titles. Just anxiously awaiting the announcement of those archive titles...

- First order: TT #720xx, ordered 5/10
- Last order: TT #797xx, ordered 6/21

So by my count, TT has had about 7,700 orders since the start of the sale.

That's just from your 1st order -- earliest orders were 70xxx