Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[bluknight1]

Originally Posted by SymbioticFunction

http://www.avmaniacs.com/forums/show...50289&page=17&

Hmmm, not very impressed. Judging from that highlighted and rather ill-advised facebook comment, TT now just come across as a bunch of dicks with total contempt for their own customers. I will be purchasing The Blob & The Driver but reading something like that makes it difficult to wholeheartedly support the company.

Honestly, the pre-order limit would stop scalpers and complainers and bring more customers to Twilight Time. But, I have no power in the matter. Since I'm not interested in the modern titles they're releasing, I'm not too worried about sellouts with exception of Leave Her to Heaven which I'm terribly afraid will sell out fast.

[NoirFan]

Originally Posted by bluknight1

Since I'm not interested in the modern titles they're releasing, I'm not too worried about sellouts with exception of Leave Her to Heaven which I'm terribly afraid will sell out fast.

Don't worry, you'll have likely a year, if not more. The Big Heat was released ten months ago and hasn't even hit 500 yet, and it's still considered a relatively strong seller.

[bluknight1]

[QUOTE=ROclockCK;7231756]Absolutely agree. In fact, Friedhofer has been one of my happiest surprises with TT's output. Before these Blu-rays and DVDs, I doubt I could have named even 2 or 3 of his scores...and yet he's now a name I welcome in a snap. During the 50s in particular, I think he was simply overshadowed by the showier practitioners of the scoring craft: Herrmann, Newman, North, Tiomkin, Waxman, Rosza, and Bernstein. Friedfhofer was more restrained and understated, but no less evocative...just more likely to be spare in his cues. Mr. 'Wall-to-Wall' he certainly was not.

Regarding Friedhofer, I've always appreciated his more understated style of scoring. It helped evoke wonderful exoticism in The Rains of Ranchipur and kept An Affair to Remember's score from being too overblown. If Friedhofer had scored Beloved Infidel, that film would have wound up a lot better off. Franz Waxman's score there was wildly overblown to the point of irritation and is so excessively syrupy that it distracts from the film and makes it all feel fake. Not to say Waxman wasn't great, though.

[bluknight1]

Originally Posted by NoirFan

Don't worry, you'll have likely a year, if not more. The Big Heat was released ten months ago and hasn't even hit 500 yet, and it's still considered a relatively strong seller.

Journey to the Center of the Earth took only 2 months.

[bluknight1]

By the way, what do all of your think about Twilight Time releases of the following titles:
The Best of Everything
Love is a Many-Splendored Thing*
Peyton Place*
Return to Peyton Place

*nominated for Best Picture and Best Score. LIAMST won the Oscar for Best Score
The first two were scored by Alfred Newman and the last two by Franz Waxman.

[NoirFan]

Originally Posted by bluknight1

Journey to the Center of the Earth took only 2 months.

The sci-fi/horror ones sell quickly, the others don't. The Egyptian went up for pre-order 6/16/11 and still hasn't sold out. There are several other titles in their collection that may not sell out at all during the 3-year window.

Edit: And for the record, Journey took 3 months to sell out, not two.

[Blu-Velvet]

Originally Posted by bluknight1

By the way, what do all of your think about Twilight Time releases of the following titles:
The Best of Everything
Love is a Many-Splendored Thing*
Peyton Place*
Return to Peyton Place

*nominated for Best Picture and Best Score. LIAMST won the Oscar for Best Score
The first two were scored by Alfred Newman and the last two by Franz Waxman.

I'd go for LOVE IS A MANY-SPLENDORED THING and PEYTON PLACE for sure, and might give the other two a try (as those two I have never seen) on a bulk order to save on shipping or meet another $100 free disc promotion. I think I'd prefer THE LONG HOT SUMMER and maybe SANCUTARY from that era, though.

[popeflick]

Originally Posted by SymbioticFunction

http://www.avmaniacs.com/forums/show...50289&page=17&

Hmmm, not very impressed. Judging from that highlighted and rather ill-advised facebook comment, TT now just come across as a bunch of dicks with total contempt for their own customers. I will be purchasing The Blob & The Driver but reading something like that makes it difficult to wholeheartedly support the company.

Disagree 100%. The dicks are the people who complain about their selling method with or without the limits of ten. They've realized there's a pissy but vocal minority but now do realize it is still a minority. I don't blame them one bit for not getting held hostage by a group of people who will never be satisfied. More power to them.

[gurtagel]

Hey so which of these titles do u guys will sell out quickly... as in a matter of hours or days besides christine which has already sold out

[popeflick]

Originally Posted by gurtagel

Hey so which of these titles do u guys will sell out quickly... as in a matter of hours or days besides christine which has already sold out

I believe the smart money is on the Egyptian and Big Heat in that order...

[LucasM2012]

Originally Posted by popeflick

Disagree 100%. The dicks are the people who complain about their selling method with or without the limits of ten. They've realized there's a pissy but vocal minority but now do realize it is still a minority. I don't blame them one bit for not getting held hostage by a group of people who will never be satisfied. More power to them.

Twilight Time can do whatever they please: it is their company. Simple as that. With the comment they made that was quoted on the linked page, if instead of "Do you honestly think that the majority of people bought 10 copies? If so, you are sorely mistaken," they'd given a number (such as "there were only 'x' number of people that bought all 10 copies that they could have for Christine") it might have helped them put it all in perspective.

Not that it would make a difference to some complainers, but it might have been less likely to tick off some who might have been on the fence about the situation and company. [Hindsight being 20/20 and all.]

[bluknight1]

Originally Posted by Blu-Velvet

I'd go for LOVE IS A MANY-SPLENDORED THING and PEYTON PLACE for sure, and might give the other two a try (as those two I have never seen) on a bulk order to save on shipping or meet another $100 free disc promotion. I think I'd prefer THE LONG HOT SUMMER and maybe SANCUTARY from that era, though.

I think that The Long, Hot Summer will come to us from Fox at some point. Looking at the cast,
(Paul Newman, Joanne Woodward, Orson Welles, Lee Remick, Angela Lansbury) and considering the massive following that Newman has, this would be a good seller for them. The Best of Everything is a mashup of the '3 girls in an aparment' formula and the 'Peyton Place' formula set in New York with the same trashy stuff going on. But it's not bad at all, even though I just made it seem so. It didn't do too well in the Vote Your Choice poll so I feel it would have a future with TT. Return to Peyton Place's single best attribute is its score. That says a lot about the quality of the film. But I would recommend it if you liked the first film. Plus, you get to see Bob Crane Pre-Hogan's Heroes in a cameo as a TV host. What's funny is he plays a character that's kind of similar to colonel Hogan I figure if TT releases one, they may as well release the other.

[bluknight1]

Originally Posted by NoirFan

The sci-fi/horror ones sell quickly, the others don't. The Egyptian went up for pre-order 6/16/11 and still hasn't sold out. There are several other titles in their collection that may not sell out at all during the 3-year window.

Edit: And for the record, Journey took 3 months to sell out, not two.

Thanks for the reassurance. And my memory is not fuctioning well today :P

[HyperRealist]

[rkolinski]

That Major Dundee cover looks fantastic!

[SymbioticFunction]

Originally Posted by popeflick

Disagree 100%. The dicks are the people who complain about their selling method with or without the limits of ten. They've realized there's a pissy but vocal minority but now do realize it is still a minority. I don't blame them one bit for not getting held hostage by a group of people who will never be satisfied. More power to them.

Customers are dicks for asking if the first couple of days sale could be limited to two copies only?? It seems like a fair request. The "but as so many consumers have complained about the 10 copy limit, we will most likely just go back to no limits on purchases at all" line comes across as depressingly churlish. That attitude does the company no favours at all imo.

[popeflick]

Originally Posted by SymbioticFunction

Customers are dicks for asking if the first couple of days sale could be limited to two copies only?? It seems like a fair request. The "but as so many consumers have complained about the 10 copy limit, we will most likely just go back to no limits on purchases at all" line comes across as depressingly churlish. That attitude does the company no favours at all imo.

No, they come off as dicks because there's no recognition that the 10 limit might have been a step in the right direction. Instead they'd rather complain that setting a limit where there was none before somehow encouraged scalping. Again, there's going to be no pleasing the whiniest part of the horror/vocal crowd and I don't blame TT one bit for basically saying "we tried, you didn't like it, we're moving on."

Although I'm sure the anonymity of the internet encourages extra moaning here, but based upon the THOUSANDS of whiny posts spread across FN,NOTLD and now Christine threads here I can only imagine the number and manner of bs emails they have to wade through. Ever considered that?

But I'll freely admit I'm of the "screw 'em" mind set when I keep reading asinine posts from people who wouldn't be satisfied even if John Carpenter delivered the darn thing to them personally.

[SymbioticFunction]

Pretty sure that everyone would be happy with a hand delivered John Carpenter copy, I'd pay extra for that.

Edit: "...there's no recognition that the 10 limit might have been a step in the right direction." I think that's actually a very fair point but still think that limiting the first couple of days sales to 2 copies only would be a good publicity move.

[rdodolak]

I don't recall anyone being forced to read any of the posts on any of the forums.

[stts651]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

I don't recall anyone being forced to read any of the posts on any of the forums.

Because of the way the powers that be have the world, to get info you have to read the forums = that is force