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Old 11-20-2015, 05:49 PM   #2321
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Frank (2014)
US - AVC 29.53 Mbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 24-bit, similar extras but includes exclusive interview with Lenny Abrahamson and a few unique featurettes, English subs (Region A)
UK - AVC 28141 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 3772 kbps 24-bit, similar extras but includes exclusive audio commentary with writers Jon Ronston and Peter Straughan, English subs (Region B locked)
DE - AVC, DTS-HD MA 5.1 24-bit, "Interviews with Cast & Crew" and "Behind the Scenes," no English subs (Region B locked)
KO - AVC, DTS-HD MA 5.1, English subs (Region A)
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DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     FRANK
Disc Size:      39,901,811,446 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
Extras:         50Hz Content
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 1:35:05.741 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   30,943,758,336 bytes
Total Bitrate:          43.39 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        28141 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
LPCM Audio                      English         2304 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         3772 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 3772 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit)
LPCM Audio                      English         2304 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit
LPCM Audio                      English         2304 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit
LPCM Audio                      English         2304 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         29.618 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00000.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:35:05.741     30,943,758,336  43,386          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:06:58.084     28,264 kbps     43,440 kbps     00:00:54.345    40,274 kbps     00:00:54.345    34,333 kbps     00:00:53.845    147,341 bytes   489,658 bytes   00:02:05.583    
2               0:06:58.084     0:07:58.186     30,034 kbps     46,513 kbps     00:11:04.413    39,276 kbps     00:11:00.534    35,441 kbps     00:10:59.742    156,582 bytes   580,074 bytes   00:10:58.199    
3               0:14:56.270     0:06:18.628     30,079 kbps     44,832 kbps     00:15:24.048    34,624 kbps     00:16:52.928    33,018 kbps     00:20:25.599    156,819 bytes   508,352 bytes   00:15:10.909    
4               0:21:14.898     0:07:52.597     26,460 kbps     43,949 kbps     00:24:04.609    36,336 kbps     00:23:58.728    35,422 kbps     00:23:55.725    137,949 bytes   399,394 bytes   00:24:04.901    
5               0:29:07.495     0:08:17.079     30,802 kbps     47,402 kbps     00:34:12.341    38,169 kbps     00:29:10.373    35,481 kbps     00:29:10.457    160,588 bytes   537,536 bytes   00:29:10.498    
6               0:37:24.575     0:08:07.028     30,224 kbps     51,660 kbps     00:37:41.968    36,400 kbps     00:37:41.342    33,521 kbps     00:38:13.916    157,577 bytes   607,061 bytes   00:37:41.384    
7               0:45:31.603     0:06:22.465     30,036 kbps     42,100 kbps     00:50:07.004    34,978 kbps     00:50:04.376    33,006 kbps     00:51:16.907    156,592 bytes   521,061 bytes   00:49:45.691    
8               0:51:54.069     0:09:38.119     29,998 kbps     42,089 kbps     00:58:59.452    35,065 kbps     00:54:38.066    33,376 kbps     00:59:03.831    156,395 bytes   479,674 bytes   00:55:15.895    
9               1:01:32.188     0:06:26.094     31,158 kbps     37,101 kbps     01:04:02.380    34,883 kbps     01:02:46.929    33,772 kbps     01:02:44.218    162,444 bytes   387,112 bytes   01:02:48.973    
10              1:07:58.282     0:06:37.855     30,444 kbps     37,748 kbps     01:10:10.414    35,605 kbps     01:14:31.133    34,867 kbps     01:14:26.128    158,723 bytes   428,694 bytes   01:14:36.138    
11              1:14:36.138     0:08:52.698     30,408 kbps     48,525 kbps     01:16:05.811    37,358 kbps     01:16:01.932    36,162 kbps     01:15:57.427    158,534 bytes   437,270 bytes   01:16:05.894    
12              1:23:28.837     0:11:36.904     16,204 kbps     42,353 kbps     01:24:03.747    38,890 kbps     01:24:01.953    34,440 kbps     01:27:38.127    84,484 bytes    421,581 bytes   01:24:04.998
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Updates made.
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Old 11-20-2015, 06:26 PM   #2324
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Did they find a laserdisc on the floor?

Looks like the UK DVD upscaled, and the Sony looked like crap to begin with.

Yeah, but I dunno...I still might pull the trigger on the German release. The thing I dislike about the Revenge director's cut the most is how the score is hijacked with scraps from Tony Scott's Man on Fire. It works for that movie, but it feels very anachronistic and doesn't jibe with the rest of the music from Revenge.
And yes, I love cheesy 80s era movie scores.
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Old 11-20-2015, 06:28 PM   #2325
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Midnight Run
US (HD DVD) - VC-1 21892 kbps, DD+ 5.1 1.5 Mbps, English subs (Region free)
UK - AVC 31008 kbps, LPCM 2.0 1536 kbps 16-bit / DTS-HD MA 5.1 1722 kbps 16-bit, DNR, English subs (Region B locked)
DE - AVC 34897 kbps, DTS-HD MA 2.0 1604 kbps 16-bit / DTS-HD MA 5.1 3314 kbps 24-bit, no DNR, English subs (Region B locked) Best PQ
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Old 11-20-2015, 06:39 PM   #2326
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Just noticed that the average bitrate of the DTS-HD MA 2.0 track is higher than the uncompressed PCM track on the UK release. Will probably be a smaller size on the disc with it being VBR, rather than the CBR of the PCM track, but still quiet strange.

Unless the bit depth of the DTS-HD MA 2.0 track is 24-bit, BDinfo doesn't guarantee correct bit depth information with lossless tracks.

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Midnight Run
US (HD DVD) - VC-1 21892 kbps, DD+ 5.1 1.5 Mbps, English subs (Region free)
UK - AVC 31008 kbps, LPCM 2.0 1536 kbps 16-bit / DTS-HD MA 5.1 1722 kbps 16-bit, DNR, English subs (Region B locked)
DE - AVC 34897 kbps, DTS-HD MA 2.0 1604 kbps 16-bit / DTS-HD MA 5.1 3314 kbps 24-bit, no DNR, English subs (Region B locked) Best PQ
Done. I wonder how the upcoming U.S. BD will stack up.
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Old 11-20-2015, 06:47 PM   #2328
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Done. I wonder how the upcoming U.S. BD will stack up.
Yep, will be interesting.
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Yeah, but I dunno...I still might pull the trigger on the German release. The thing I dislike about the Revenge director's cut the most is how the score is hijacked with scraps from Tony Scott's Man on Fire. It works for that movie, but it feels very anachronistic and doesn't jibe with the rest of the music from Revenge.
And yes, I love cheesy 80s era movie scores.
Oh I will buy it, but will wait a while
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Old 11-22-2015, 02:36 PM   #2330
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US - AVC 25973 kbps, DTS-HD MA 2.0 1692 kbps 16-bit, English subs (Region A locked)
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US - AVC 25973 kbps, DTS-HD MA 2.0 1692 kbps 16-bit, English subs (Region A locked)
I'm removing it from the list then unless someone can show why I shouldn't.
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Gone Baby Gone
US - VC-1 23509 kbps, LPCM 5.1 4608 kbps 24-bit, English subs (Region A locked)
IT - AVC 34975 kbps 24fps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 2940 kbps 24-bit, no English subs
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Gone Baby Gone
US - VC-1 23509 kbps, LPCM 5.1 4608 kbps 24-bit, English subs (Region A locked)
IT - AVC 34975 kbps 24fps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 2940 kbps 24-bit, no English subs
Have you seen any comparisons?
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Have you seen any comparisons?
Nah just found it but same company behind it (Eagle Pictures) as the very nice From Dusk til Dawn and they seem to use very high bitrates and no DNR so I would say better compression is a very good bet. But I didn't put Best PQ stamp on it yet until we know more.
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US - AVC 24.87 Mbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 2149 kbps 16-bit, English subs, same extras (Region A)
AU - AVC 24.83 Mbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 3585 kbps 24-bit, English subs, same extras (Region B)

The BDInfo scan for the Sony disc is online, while I just received my Australian BD from Fox today. More info on the Fox release is here.
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Can't find my criterion Bdinfo scan, but the new Universal disc

The Game 1997

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Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 46027 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 6031 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 6031 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS Audio French 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
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Can't find my criterion Bdinfo scan, but the new Universal disc

The Game 1997

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Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 46027 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 6031 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 6031 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS Audio French 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
What?! Those numbers seem...very high, and why is the audio spec repeated like that?
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Can't find my criterion Bdinfo scan, but the new Universal disc

The Game 1997
Is that 46 Mbps I am seeing?

Here's the Criterion disc:

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00001.MPLS
Length: 2:08:48.262 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 39.072.528.384 bytes
Total Bitrate: 40,45 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 29498 kbps 1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 4312 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 4312 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio English 4140 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 4140 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 1.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 50,612 kbps
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What?! Those numbers seem...very high, and why is the audio spec repeated like that?
It's wrong. The total bitrate is lower than the pieces. Whatever BDInfo clone this came from seems to be buggy..

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Universal NA

Code:
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Title                                                           Codec   Length   Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  -------  --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00800.MPLS                                                      AVC     2:08:16  37,493,932,032  38,005,569,536  38.97   46.03   DTS-HD Master 5.1
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     THEGAME_NA
Disc Size:      38,005,569,536 bytes
Protection:     AACS(v47)
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.8.1 (compatible layout created by DVDFab 9.1.9.5)

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00800.MPLS  
Length:                 2:08:16.105 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   37,493,932,032 bytes
Total Bitrate:          38.97 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        46027 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         6031 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 6031 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS Audio                       French          768 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         50.273 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          0.579 kbps                      

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
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00800.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:08:16.105     37,493,932,032  38,974 kbps     

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6               0:30:08.640     0:06:30.973     0 kbps          0 kbps          0:00:00.000     0 kbps          0:00:00.000     0 kbps          0:00:00.000     0 bytes         0 bytes         0:00:00.000     
7               0:36:39.614     0:06:23.674     216,125 kbps    44,123 kbps     0:12:58.819     35,617 kbps     0:29:37.609     35,121 kbps     0:19:05.269     167,348 bytes   496,528 bytes   0:12:59.653     
8               0:43:03.289     0:10:13.863     31,330 kbps     36,254 kbps     0:46:43.050     34,953 kbps     0:49:05.442     34,858 kbps     0:49:01.146     163,329 bytes   337,849 bytes   0:47:25.342     
9               0:53:17.152     0:05:15.523     32,330 kbps     36,368 kbps     0:58:20.246     35,042 kbps     0:58:17.327     34,922 kbps     0:58:12.322     168,576 bytes   309,115 bytes   0:57:10.426     
10              0:58:32.675     0:05:45.053     32,460 kbps     36,380 kbps     1:01:03.826     35,026 kbps     1:01:03.368     34,850 kbps     1:00:54.942     169,211 bytes   344,726 bytes   1:00:45.099     
11              1:04:17.728     0:07:52.472     31,518 kbps     36,077 kbps     1:06:27.441     34,979 kbps     1:11:41.422     34,893 kbps     1:11:36.625     164,338 bytes   328,565 bytes   1:06:05.336     
12              1:12:10.200     0:06:06.532     31,811 kbps     35,988 kbps     1:14:58.368     34,976 kbps     1:12:11.118     34,864 kbps     1:15:41.745     165,850 bytes   312,040 bytes   1:14:20.456     
13              1:18:16.733     0:05:44.844     31,054 kbps     35,756 kbps     1:23:50.567     34,903 kbps     1:23:50.025     34,572 kbps     1:23:45.228     161,903 bytes   308,188 bytes   1:23:47.272     
14              1:24:01.578     0:09:15.137     32,076 kbps     37,041 kbps     1:25:47.517     35,188 kbps     1:26:00.738     34,972 kbps     1:25:55.608     167,245 bytes   296,471 bytes   1:25:41.261     
15              1:33:16.716     0:08:27.715     32,488 kbps     37,342 kbps     1:35:00.444     35,121 kbps     1:34:56.524     34,928 kbps     1:39:08.233     169,364 bytes   345,442 bytes   1:34:07.141     
16              1:41:44.431     0:04:29.769     32,560 kbps     36,476 kbps     1:41:46.475     35,077 kbps     1:41:51.355     34,951 kbps     1:41:51.647     169,756 bytes   390,201 bytes   1:41:47.476     
17              1:46:14.201     0:05:39.547     32,667 kbps     36,190 kbps     1:46:46.024     35,046 kbps     1:46:31.760     34,911 kbps     1:47:36.616     170,315 bytes   331,824 bytes   1:46:25.379     
18              1:51:53.748     0:11:10.461     32,644 kbps     36,669 kbps     2:03:01.082     35,150 kbps     2:02:57.161     34,980 kbps     2:02:52.698     170,193 bytes   346,512 bytes   1:56:21.557     
19              2:03:04.210     0:05:11.894     29,998 kbps     37,238 kbps     2:08:08.681     34,866 kbps     2:07:21.133     34,834 kbps     2:07:17.087     156,526 bytes   579,264 bytes   2:08:11.475     

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File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00800.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     5523.39                 46027                   31,778,170,709  172,818,701     
00800.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           5524.79                 6030.97                 4,164,978,767   23,872,634      
00800.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x82            DTS             fra (French)            5524.66                 768                     762,994,811     4,470,674       
00800.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           5117.36                 50.273                  32,158,338      183,983         
00800.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            6874.24                 0.579                   497,886         2,865
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