List of International BDs with Better PQ, AQ, and/or More Extras - Page 261 - Blu-ray Forum

HD Goofnut · 08-13-2020, 02:41 AM

Added Born Yesterday and The Woman in the Window.

marine92104 · 08-13-2020, 07:00 AM

Does anyone know if “Portrait in Black” (France) has a better PQ & AQ than the US version? The US Version didn’t get a very good review on this site:

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Portr...235491/#Review

Filmmaker · 08-13-2020, 07:01 AM

The information for SOMETIMES THEY COME BACK is completely and wholly in error. The U.S. Olive release is 2.35:1, not 1.85:1. The Austrian disc is 2.35:1 only; no 1.85:1 version is included. Lastly, as proved by Caps-a-Holic, the U.S. release offers marginally superior encoding and, as such, is the preferred release for picture quality.

HD Goofnut · 08-14-2020, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Filmmaker

The information for SOMETIMES THEY COME BACK is completely and wholly in error. The U.S. Olive release is 2.35:1, not 1.85:1. The Austrian disc is 2.35:1 only; no 1.85:1 version is included. Lastly, as proved by Caps-a-Holic, the U.S. release offers marginally superior encoding and, as such, is the preferred release for picture quality.

I'll remove it then.

HD Goofnut · 08-14-2020, 01:26 AM

Added Double Indemnity, Fat City, and Inherit the Wind.

sidetracked1 · 08-14-2020, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Added Double Indemnity, Fat City, and Inherit the Wind.

Hi! Thanks for your amazing work with this list.

Looking at caps-a-holic I couldn't see any difference between the UK MoC Double Indemnity and the FR Carlotta disc you picked as having the best PQ. The grain structure, etc looked identical to me.

Obviously your eye has spent a lot more time uncovering minor but meaningful differences, so I'm hoping to learn more about what I'm missing. Thanks!!

Filmmaker · 08-14-2020, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sidetracked1

Looking at caps-a-holic I couldn't see any difference between the UK MoC Double Indemnity and the FR Carlotta disc you picked as having the best PQ. The grain structure, etc looked identical to me.

Obviously your eye has spent a lot more time uncovering minor but meaningful differences, so I'm hoping to learn more about what I'm missing. Thanks!!

Damn, you're right. They look literally identical even at the Ultra Zoom level.

Dailyan · 08-14-2020, 04:09 PM

The Carlotta of "Double Indemnity" is the exact same encode as the Eureka. Honestly, the US Universal Blu is better than either. Even with the "managed" grain, the remaster has better stabilization, not as bright, flickering is toned down, and better detail (here, here, and here).

professorwho · 08-15-2020, 06:02 AM

Yup, they are the same encodes. I uploaded the caps of the Carlotta disc to Caps a Holic, and it looks great. I don't have the Universal, but the Carlotta/Masters of Cinema disc has its issues: there's a flicker that's pretty apparent at points and is distracting. Also, in some shots, the grain looks pretty bad, appearing like dithering more so than actual grain (ironic in that film grain acts as a dither, but this looks similar to the dither seen on PS1 games).

However, I still prefer the look of the UK/FR disc- the Universal has been grain managed, and while it may show more detail, the overall look is too waxy for my taste. So yes, it is more detailed, but it doesn't look like film to my eyes. Honestly, something in-between both of them- the Universal restoration with actual film grain- would be ideal. Plus, the UK/FR disc has better black levels and doesn't have the bad posterisation the Uni disc has (see Cap 4 on Caps a Holic).

oliviergregoire · 08-15-2020, 08:41 AM

Buried
US - 28.3 Mbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 4142 kbps 24-bit
JP - 38000 kbps, Dolby True HD 5.1 1168 kbps 16-bit

sidetracked1 · 08-15-2020, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dailyan

The Carlotta of "Double Indemnity" is the exact same encode as the Eureka. Honestly, the US Universal Blu is better than either. Even with the "managed" grain, the remaster has better stabilization, not as bright, flickering is toned down, and better detail (here, here, and here).

Glad I'm not crazy! I just figured there was some subtle difference I was missing either from lack of experience examining discs at this kind of granular level, or - more likely - because my aging eyes aren't what they once were.

I already have both the MoC and the US. (I like them each in different ways for the very reasons others have noted here). But I'm OCD enough to always want to have the best version (or versions) of films I really love, so I was about to order the Carlotta... Happy it seems I don't need to.

oliviergregoire · 08-15-2020, 08:42 PM

Prestige, The
UK/DE (2nd edition that comes with 4K UHD) - AVC 29808 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 3644 kbps 24-bit

casspir · 08-17-2020, 03:41 PM

Which one of these US BD releases of "The Thing" (1982) has better picture quality? The 2016 US Collector's Edition, or the 2018 US 4K Remaster Limited Edition?:
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=11009&d2=14490&c=4380

Can I have an expert opinion, please? HD Goofnut, or anyone?

casspir · 08-17-2020, 04:14 PM

Which one of these two US BD releases of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" (1956) has better picture quality? The 2012 Olive BD release, or the 2018 Olive Signature Edition?:
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x...8&l=1&i=8&go=1

The 2018 Signature Edition has higher bitrate, but it is darker. Which one has the better PQ? Expert opinion is needed. Thanks!

PeterTHX · 08-17-2020, 05:59 PM

Video transfers of films have been overly brightened for decades.

"Darker" is usually more accurate.

Filmmaker · 08-17-2020, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by casspir

Which one of these US BD releases of "The Thing" (1982) has better picture quality? The 2016 US Collector's Edition, or the 2018 US 4K Remaster Limited Edition?:
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=11009&d2=14490&c=4380

Can I have an expert opinion, please? HD Goofnut, or anyone?

4K remaster, no question.

waxHead · 08-17-2020, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Filmmaker

4K remaster, no question.

And if you want to be absolutely certain about the best US The Thing release to own, the missing ping pong ball answers that question:

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x...7&l=0&i=1&go=1

HD Goofnut · 08-22-2020, 02:58 AM

Added Bunny Lake Is Missing.

Updated Matinee.

laserline · 08-25-2020, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

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Originally Posted by WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW

Dirty Rotten Scoundrels:
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=13949&d2=13948&c=5428

def much better pic quality on the new DE

Right, but how does the Shout disc compare?

Here it is: https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&...149969&i=0&l=1

HD Goofnut · 09-05-2020, 03:25 AM

Added Heaven Knows What.

08-17-2020, 03:41 PM	#5213
casspir Active Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2011 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:326 DVD collection:2	The Thing (1982) Which one of these US BD releases of "The Thing" (1982) has better picture quality? The 2016 US Collector's Edition, or the 2018 US 4K Remaster Limited Edition?: https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=11009&d2=14490&c=4380 Can I have an expert opinion, please? HD Goofnut, or anyone?

08-17-2020, 04:14 PM	#5214
casspir Active Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2011 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:326 DVD collection:2	Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956) Which one of these two US BD releases of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" (1956) has better picture quality? The 2012 Olive BD release, or the 2018 Olive Signature Edition?: https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x...8&l=1&i=8&go=1 The 2018 Signature Edition has higher bitrate, but it is darker. Which one has the better PQ? Expert opinion is needed. Thanks!

08-13-2020, 02:41 AM	#5201
HD Goofnut Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Far, Far Away Home Theater Gallery:114 4K collection:743 Blu-ray collection:2371 DVD collection:128 MA collection:751 Digital collection:1093 Prime collection:598 Blu-ray reviews:133 Trading Score:39	Added Born Yesterday and The Woman in the Window.

08-13-2020, 07:00 AM	#5202
marine92104 Expert Member Member since:Oct 2006 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:1 iTunes collection:9 Trading Score:43	Does anyone know if “Portrait in Black” (France) has a better PQ & AQ than the US version? The US Version didn’t get a very good review on this site: https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Portr...235491/#Review

08-13-2020, 07:01 AM	#5203
Filmmaker Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Tulsa, OK (but don't hold it against me!) Home Theater Gallery:90 4K collection:1167 Blu-ray collection:3150 DVD collection:593 Trading Score:24	The information for SOMETIMES THEY COME BACK is completely and wholly in error. The U.S. Olive release is 2.35:1, not 1.85:1. The Austrian disc is 2.35:1 only; no 1.85:1 version is included. Lastly, as proved by Caps-a-Holic, the U.S. release offers marginally superior encoding and, as such, is the preferred release for picture quality.

08-14-2020, 01:26 AM	#5205
HD Goofnut Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Far, Far Away Home Theater Gallery:114 4K collection:743 Blu-ray collection:2371 DVD collection:128 MA collection:751 Digital collection:1093 Prime collection:598 Blu-ray reviews:133 Trading Score:39	Added Double Indemnity, Fat City, and Inherit the Wind.

08-14-2020, 04:09 PM	#5208
Dailyan Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Feb 2015 Location:Beyond the Blue Horizon 4K collection:197 Blu-ray collection:2248 DVD collection:197 Blu-ray reviews: 58 Trading Score:55	The Carlotta of "Double Indemnity" is the exact same encode as the Eureka. Honestly, the US Universal Blu is better than either. Even with the "managed" grain, the remaster has better stabilization, not as bright, flickering is toned down, and better detail (here, here, and here).

08-15-2020, 06:02 AM	#5209
professorwho Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Apr 2017 4K collection:229 Blu-ray collection:982 Blu-ray reviews: 64 Trading Score:7	Yup, they are the same encodes. I uploaded the caps of the Carlotta disc to Caps a Holic, and it looks great. I don't have the Universal, but the Carlotta/Masters of Cinema disc has its issues: there's a flicker that's pretty apparent at points and is distracting. Also, in some shots, the grain looks pretty bad, appearing like dithering more so than actual grain (ironic in that film grain acts as a dither, but this looks similar to the dither seen on PS1 games). However, I still prefer the look of the UK/FR disc- the Universal has been grain managed, and while it may show more detail, the overall look is too waxy for my taste. So yes, it is more detailed, but it doesn't look like film to my eyes. Honestly, something in-between both of them- the Universal restoration with actual film grain- would be ideal. Plus, the UK/FR disc has better black levels and doesn't have the bad posterisation the Uni disc has (see Cap 4 on Caps a Holic).

08-15-2020, 08:41 AM	#5210
oliviergregoire Active Member Member since:Jul 2012 Location:Paris, France 4K collection:6 Blu-ray collection:308	Buried US - 28.3 Mbps, DTS-HD MA 7.1 4142 kbps 24-bit JP - 38000 kbps, Dolby True HD 5.1 1168 kbps 16-bit

08-15-2020, 08:42 PM	#5212
oliviergregoire Active Member Member since:Jul 2012 Location:Paris, France 4K collection:6 Blu-ray collection:308	Prestige, The UK/DE (2nd edition that comes with 4K UHD) - AVC 29808 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 3644 kbps 24-bit

08-17-2020, 05:59 PM	#5215
PeterTHX Banned Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Blu-ray collection:563 Trading Score:14	Video transfers of films have been overly brightened for decades. "Darker" is usually more accurate.

08-22-2020, 02:58 AM	#5218
HD Goofnut Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Far, Far Away Home Theater Gallery:114 4K collection:743 Blu-ray collection:2371 DVD collection:128 MA collection:751 Digital collection:1093 Prime collection:598 Blu-ray reviews:133 Trading Score:39	Added Bunny Lake Is Missing. Updated Matinee.

09-05-2020, 03:25 AM	#5220
HD Goofnut Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Far, Far Away Home Theater Gallery:114 4K collection:743 Blu-ray collection:2371 DVD collection:128 MA collection:751 Digital collection:1093 Prime collection:598 Blu-ray reviews:133 Trading Score:39	Added Heaven Knows What.

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