Sony introduces high-end ZD9 TV series with HDR

[BLMN]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I've got a funny feeling that if I update it the 3D will look EXACTLY the same, I've literally lost count of the amount of miracle fixes for 3D on the ZD9 that did absolutely **** all for me

We can always hope, hes not the 1st that has said that. i am still on 7.0, havent received the update over the air yet. very curious to try and see if there is really improvement.

[Geoff D]

He wasn't the first to say the same about umpteen other magic solutions either. IF this one works then you can be damned sure I'll chime in about it. If it doesn't, well, my point she be proved!

[DJR662]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

He wasn't the first to say the same about umpteen other magic solutions either. IF this one works then you can be damned sure I'll chime in about it. If it doesn't, well, my point she be proved!

Well, let us know how that worked out.

If you have it, Monsters vs Aliens would be a good way to check.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by fancycar

If you update your Z9D to the latest version v6.6520
The 3D becomes WONDERFULLY PERFECT
SUPER CRYSTAL CLEAR
NO CROSSTALKS AND FLICKERING

I started rewatching all my 3D movies after the update.

I no longer own a Z9D so I can't try that version.

[DVD Josh]

Originally Posted by fancycar

If you update your Z9D to the latest version v6.6520
The 3D becomes WONDERFULLY PERFECT
SUPER CRYSTAL CLEAR
NO CROSSTALKS AND FLICKERING

I started rewatching all my 3D movies after the update.

I have this update and the X800m2 and while the 3D looks better, it's nowhere near this good.

[HDMan72]

Originally Posted by DVD Josh

I have this update and the X800m2 and while the 3D looks better, it's nowhere near this good.

Flickering still? I have the update ready to go on my USB flash drive.

[DVD Josh]

Originally Posted by HDMan72

Flickering still? I have the update ready to go on my USB flash drive.

I've never had that issue myself.

[dominica]

Originally Posted by HDMan72

Flickering still? I have the update ready to go on my USB flash drive.

Never had flicker problem on the Z9D with 3D. Did you try restarting the TV and then re-syncing the glasses(hold down the power button on remote for 10 seconds) ?

Note: The Sony glasses and Panasonic 3D glasses I use work without any problems. However I have a couple of no name ones that gave a strange slow off an on in one eye and then when I restarted the TV and synced again it was good again and had to do it for the no name glasses once every couple of weeks.

Since installing the latest firmware I never had the problem with the no name brand glasses.

[HDMan72]

I just finished the update. I have done a soft reboot on my Z which did fix the flickering image before, only had to do it once and it never came back. I'm talking about the flickering of say a bright daylight scene, very subtle but there due to the active glasses I believe. I just updated and played some 3D titles and noticed the picture seems improved, that slight flickering seems reduced. Didn't notice any crosstalk during scenes from Ready Player One and The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. It seems after this update I can actually tell a difference when changing brightness of the glasses. I never really noticed any difference before this latest update.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by DJR662

Well, let us know how that worked out.

If you have it, Monsters vs Aliens would be a good way to check.

I'm not sure if I have that any more.

From looking at test patterns on Spears & Munsil 2nd Ed then the crosstalk is still very much present and correct, but when I spun a few scenes from Dr Strange it looked very good for crosstalk, still present here and there yet not overwhelming - not that it actually troubled me a great deal when I watched it last anyway though: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...0#post15518580 so maybe that wasn't the best one to check.

Any more crosstalk horrors people could recommend? Edge of Tomorrow was terrrrrrrrrrrrible for crosstalk but I don't got it no more.

PS

As good as the 3D is on Strange I'm DYING to see it in HDR, fixed 'scope and all, as it is going to look mind blowing.

[HDMan72]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I'm not sure if I have that any more.

From looking at test patterns on Spears & Munsil 2nd Ed then the crosstalk is still very much present and correct, but when I spun a few scenes from Dr Strange it looked very good for crosstalk, still present here and there yet not overwhelming - not that it actually troubled me a great deal when I watched it last anyway though: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...0#post15518580 so maybe that wasn't the best one to check.

Any more crosstalk horrors people could recommend? Edge of Tomorrow was terrrrrrrrrrrrible for crosstalk but I don't got it no more.

PS

As good as the 3D is on Strange I'm DYING to see it in HDR, fixed 'scope and all, as it is going to look mind blowing.

Good to know you see an improvement on actual content. To me it is improved, I have to check some more titles. What about Hugo, that had a lot of crosstalk. I need to try that one.

[Geoff D]

I didn't say I did, I said crosstalk didn't plague me when I watched Dr Strange the last time either. Need to watch some more stuff.

[HDMan72]

I got a little excited ��

[DJR662]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I'm not sure if I have that any more.

From looking at test patterns on Spears & Munsil 2nd Ed then the crosstalk is still very much present and correct, but when I spun a few scenes from Dr Strange it looked very good for crosstalk, still present here and there yet not overwhelming - not that it actually troubled me a great deal when I watched it last anyway though: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...0#post15518580 so maybe that wasn't the best one to check.

Any more crosstalk horrors people could recommend? Edge of Tomorrow was terrrrrrrrrrrrible for crosstalk but I don't got it no more.

PS

As good as the 3D is on Strange I'm DYING to see it in HDR, fixed 'scope and all, as it is going to look mind blowing.

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I didn't say I did, I said crosstalk didn't plague me when I watched Dr Strange the last time either. Need to watch some more stuff.

So in other words: 3D is still the same?

In all honesty and I hate to say this as a 3D fan, but 3D is still slowly fading away. I can't imagine Sony actually taking the time to improve the 3D on the Z9D now unless perhaps it's an unintentional result of something they (intentionally) changed elsewhere.

But hey, I would love to be proven wrong ofcourse!

Originally Posted by HDMan72

I just finished the update. I have done a soft reboot on my Z which did fix the flickering image before, only had to do it once and it never came back. I'm talking about the flickering of say a bright daylight scene, very subtle but there due to the active glasses I believe. I just updated and played some 3D titles and noticed the picture seems improved, that slight flickering seems reduced. Didn't notice any crosstalk during scenes from Ready Player One and The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. It seems after this update I can actually tell a difference when changing brightness of the glasses. I never really noticed any difference before this latest update.

The flickering will always be there (and actually be noticable during bright scenes) unless you enable Motionflow.

Okay, so you are saying both RP1 and the first Hobbit movie are completely crosstalk free then? I might use those when I do some more testing then. Which model Z9D do you have?

Perhaps I'll update one of my TVs just for the fun of it then. It's long overdue anyway since they're both still on the pre-Oreo firmware. Btw there are absolutely zero issues (anymore)? I seem to remember reading about people's AV receivers turning themselves on and the internal video app not playing certain files anymore (or without audio) among other things.

[HDMan72]

Originally Posted by DJR662

The flickering will always be there (and actually be noticable during bright scenes) unless you enable Motionflow.

Okay, so you are saying both RP1 and the first Hobbit movie are completely crosstalk free then? I might use those when I do some more testing then. Which model Z9D do you have?

Perhaps I'll update one of my TVs just for the fun of it then. It's long overdue anyway since they're both still on the pre-Oreo firmware. Btw there are absolutely zero issues (anymore)? I seem to remember reading about people's AV receivers turning themselves on and the internal video app not playing certain files anymore (or without audio) among other things.

The flickering is still present, if I change brightness to low, the flickering is very reduced but the image does take a ht on brightness. So I'm still using medium brightness and it seems to not as flicker as noticeable before, but I did have some ambient daylight coming through my living room at the time. I'd like to check that again. I did not notice crosstalk on any of the scenes I played back. I especially noticed crosstalk on the subtitles in The Hobbit before this update. I do not use Motionflow, it actually makes the 3D image dull and added additional crosstalk to the image. I have the U.S. 65" Z9D. I also wonder why would Sony take the time to improve 3D now at this stage? This update only lists the fix that WiFi connection would fail after updating to Oreo. I've been on Oreo for awhile, never had my AVR turn on unexpectedly and I do not use the internal apps. If you do some testing I would gladly check out the same titles if I have them.

[DJR662]

Originally Posted by HDMan72

The flickering is still present, if I change brightness to low, the flickering is very reduced but the image does take a ht on brightness. So I'm still using medium brightness and it seems to not as flicker as noticeable before, but I did have some ambient daylight coming through my living room at the time. I'd like to check that again. I did not notice crosstalk on any of the scenes I played back. I especially noticed crosstalk on the subtitles in The Hobbit before this update. I do not use Motionflow, it actually makes the 3D image dull and added additional crosstalk to the image. I have the U.S. 65" Z9D. I also wonder why would Sony take the time to improve 3D now at this stage? This update only lists the fix that WiFi connection would fail after updating to Oreo. I've been on Oreo for awhile, never had my AVR turn on unexpectedly and I do not use the internal apps. If you do some testing I would gladly check out the same titles if I have them.

Thanks.

I will do some more testing when I have the time. First I want to do some testing again before the update, taking notes of which scenes I used and exactly where and how bad the crosstalk is in those scenes. After that I want to do the same thing again after the update, using the same movies and watching the exact same scenes and see if there are any changes.

[Agent Kay]

I love this thread, it's the only way I know there is new firmware for my lower grade older Sony

[GenPion]

Anyone with an Oppo 203 want to chime in on how the Dolby Vision implementation looks on the Sony Z9D?

I’m debating between an Oppo 203 or getting a Sony X800M2 with Dolby Vision and an Oppo 103D (I sold my Oppo 103D before and have to say I miss it as well as the Darbee implementation).

I’m not happy that the new Sony X800M2 player doesn’t have auto Dolby Vision implementation but I can always switch it on and off and hope for a firmware update if need be. However, I would love to hear more thoughts regarding Dolby Vision with the Oppo 203 as I have heard some conflicting thoughts on the way the Oppo 203 works with the Sony model TVs.

[pbz06]

Originally Posted by GenPion

Anyone with an Oppo 203 want to chime in on how the Dolby Vision implementation looks on the Sony Z9D?

I’m debating between an Oppo 203 or getting a Sony X800M2 with Dolby Vision and an Oppo 103D (I sold my Oppo 103D before and have to say I miss it as well as the Darbee implementation).

I’m not happy that the new Sony X800M2 player doesn’t have auto Dolby Vision implementation but I can always switch it on and off and hope for a firmware update if need be. However, I would love to hear more thoughts regarding Dolby Vision with the Oppo 203 as I have heard some conflicting thoughts on the way the Oppo 203 works with the Sony model TVs.

DV works perfectly and fantastic.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by GenPion

Anyone with an Oppo 203 want to chime in on how the Dolby Vision implementation looks on the Sony Z9D?

I’m debating between an Oppo 203 or getting a Sony X800M2 with Dolby Vision and an Oppo 103D (I sold my Oppo 103D before and have to say I miss it as well as the Darbee implementation).

I’m not happy that the new Sony X800M2 player doesn’t have auto Dolby Vision implementation but I can always switch it on and off and hope for a firmware update if need be. However, I would love to hear more thoughts regarding Dolby Vision with the Oppo 203 as I have heard some conflicting thoughts on the way the Oppo 203 works with the Sony model TVs.

You know my thoughts on it