Sony introduces high-end ZD9 TV series with HDR

[TravisTylerBlack]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

Well, some people simply can't afford 2-4 thousand dollar TVs. Some of you have so much disposable income you can upgrade those 2k-4k TVs every 1-2 years. Not everyone can do that.

Thankfully higher-end picture quality can be had for well under that price range. My X900F was around$1200 with tax. (California sales tax, mind you.)
Not peanuts by any means, but every lower-tier/lower-priced 4K set I've encountered doesn't begin to compare.

Its current equivalent, the X950H, will likely go on sale for around the same sometime next year, if it hasn't already. It's the TV I currently recommend to most people not concerned with OLED.

[Member-425016]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

2K is bargain basement pricing! It's must be great to say that.

Originally Posted by Auditor55

Well, some people simply can't afford 2-4 thousand dollar TVs. Some of you have so much disposable income you can upgrade those 2k-4k TVs every 1-2 years. Not everyone can do that.

The 65" Set was $5,500 initially (actually I think it started out even higher) so the $2K was a bargain for what the set is. And for something I plan on keeping until it dies (which will most likely be well over a decade)I think that price is justified.

I'm not rich, I paid it off over a long stretch on credit card. I just take my home theater hobby very seriously, as I have been into cinema at home since the days of decent standard def projectors being sold for $10K for starters,(now you can get an HD projector that kills any of those for $300) and making long treks to obtain laserdiscs in physical stores because they weren't sold anywhere near where I lived!

I did my research before buying this TV, and I have seen my set compared to many other "high end sets" and I still think it is the best overall.
I'm still impressed with it.

I'm sorry if I offended you!

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by TravisTylerBlack

Thankfully higher-end picture quality can be had for well under that price range. My X900F was around$1200 with tax. (California sales tax, mind you.)
Not peanuts by any means, but every lower-tier/lower-priced 4K set I've encountered doesn't begin to compare.

Its current equivalent, the X950H, will likely go on sale for around the same sometime next year, if it hasn't already. It's the TV I currently recommend to most people not concerned with OLED.

I agree the 55" Hisense H9G and the TCL 635 are both under grand and from most reports are just as good if not better in some respects than the Sony 950H at almost twice the price.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

I agree the 55" Hisense H9G and the TCL 635 are both under grand and from most reports are just as good if not better in some respects than the Sony 950H at almost twice the price.

<citation needed>

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

<citation needed>

3 Reasons the Hisense H9G 4K TV is Right for Most People (2020 update) - YouTube

Rtings
"The Hisense H9G is a bit better overall than the Sony X950H. The Hisense has a much better contrast ratio, it has a much quicker response time, and a lower input lag. However, the Sony has much better out-of-the-box color accuracy, it gets brighter in HDR, and it handles reflections better." https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/comp...h9g/1777/12847

"Although you’ll get a higher contrast ratio with the Samsung Q90R, the H9G is one-third of the price and still manages an impressive six-figure contrast ratio and excellent color accuracy out of the box. All this earns the Hisense 65H9G our Editors’ Choice for budget-friendly TVs."
https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/hisens...quantum-series

[Member-425016]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

3 Reasons the Hisense H9G 4K TV is Right for Most People (2020 update) - YouTube

Rtings
"The Hisense H9G is a bit better overall than the Sony X950H. The Hisense has a much better contrast ratio, it has a much quicker response time, and a lower input lag. However, the Sony has much better out-of-the-box color accuracy, it gets brighter in HDR, and it handles reflections better." https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/comp...h9g/1777/12847

"Although you’ll get a higher contrast ratio with the Samsung Q90R, the H9G is one-third of the price and still manages an impressive six-figure contrast ratio and excellent color accuracy out of the box. All this earns the Hisense 65H9G our Editors’ Choice for budget-friendly TVs."
https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/hisens...quantum-series

Yeah, and Hisense is one of the most unreliable TV manufacturers out there.
https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...bility-ratings
So you pay $1K for a 65" model, and in 5 years when its out of warranty, and goes bad you have to shell out another thousand dollars for a new one. Where is the savings?
I have had experience with budget TV sets in the past 15 years, and after seeing two of them go bad early on from friends, and family. I learned a lesson. You get what you pay for when it comes to TV sets!

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Filmfan73

Yeah, and Hisense is one of the most unreliable TV manufacturers out there.

This basically.
The build and UI is atrocious.

[pbz06]

Ugh, we go through this every once in a while. Rtings is useful resource but completely misleading and blissfully ignorant how they rank products. They literally use the same static test pattern to come up with a rating, and call the higher number "better".

Put them side by side with ACTUAL content, and nobody will pick the Hisense or claim it has better contrast ratio etc. I can guarantee you Sony's backlight algorithm is more sophisticated and accurate with content in motion.

Also, I like FOMOs videos but he knows his audience and pushes the budget options...funny thing though he has an A9G as his personal TV.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by Filmfan73

Yeah, and Hisense is one of the most unreliable TV manufacturers out there.
https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...bility-ratings
So you pay $1K for a 65" model, and in 5 years when its out of warranty, and goes bad you have to shell out another thousand dollars for a new one. Where is the savings?
I have had experience with budget TV sets in the past 15 years, and after seeing two of them go bad early on from friends, and family. I learned a lesson. You get what you pay for when it comes to TV sets!

LG, Sony, and Samsung all make TVs that are unreliable so you shouldn't just claim that about so-called budget brands. However, the name brands charge a lot more for that unreliabilty.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by pbz06

Ugh, we go through this every once in a while. Rtings is useful resource but completely misleading and blissfully ignorant how they rank products. They literally use the same static test pattern to come up with a rating, and call the higher number "better".

Put them side by side with ACTUAL content, and nobody will pick the Hisense or claim it has better contrast ratio etc. I can guarantee you Sony's backlight algorithm is more sophisticated and accurate with content in motion.

Also, I like FOMOs videos but he knows his audience and pushes the budget options...funny thing though he has an A9G as his personal TV.

Yeah, but he doesn't own an x950H and that's the issue here. FOMO and others rated Hisense as the TV with better overall image quality.

Sony doesn't make LEDs like the Z9D anymore, so their quality has gone down and those cheaper brands have caught up to them.

[Member-425016]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

LG, Sony, and Samsung all make TVs that are unreliable so you shouldn't just claim that about so-called budget brands. However, the name brands charge a lot more for that unreliabilty.

So why in blazes are you in a thread devoted to a TV that you:
-Have (had) no interest in owning because it was out of your reach financially

-and claim that big brand TV manufacturers are just as unreliable as lesser manufacturers...yet surveys, and data prove otherwise?


https://www.consumerreports.org/tvs/...bility-issues/

I'll wait patiently for your answer. Likely you don't have one, so just make something up, or better yet don't post at all.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by Filmfan73

So why in blazes are you in a thread devoted to a TV that you:
-Have (had) no interest in owning because it was out of your reach financially

-and claim that big brand TV manufacturers are just as unreliable as lesser manufacturers...yet surveys, and data prove otherwise?


https://www.consumerreports.org/tvs/...bility-issues/

I'll wait patiently for your answer. Likely you don't have one, so just make something up, or better yet don't post at all.

Which TV do you claim I have no interest in owning and out of my reach financially? If you are making reference to the x950H, I did own it but returned it.

As to Consumer Reports:

"Consumer Reports is was a generation’s most credible source for authentic product reviews. Sadly, the non-profit organization founded in 1936 has opted to monetize their digital presence with affiliate commissions. Thus, their entire trusted platform is now compromised. Once an organization accepts affiliate payments their innately biased."

https://www.honestmattressreviews.co...ity-1936-2017/

[Member-425016]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

Which TV do you claim I have no interest in owning and out of my reach financially? If you are making reference to the x950H, I did own it but returned it.

The TV this thread is devoted to, and the same TV you chewed me out for saying $2,000 was a bargain for it (it was)!

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by Filmfan73

The TV this thread is devoted to, and the same TV you chewed me out for saying $2,000 was a bargain for it (it was)!

I did own a Z9D (great picture quality) but I had to return it because it was defective (see my point). I couldn't find another one and Sony did not want to fix it, they offered me a Z9F, I wasn't enthusiastic about it . I asked for an A8F OLED, they wouldn't do it.

[Member-425016]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

I did own a Z9D (great picture quality) but I had to return it because it was defective (see my point). I couldn't find another one and Sony did not want to fix it, they offered me a Z9F, I wasn't enthusiastic about it . I asked for an A8F OLED, they wouldn't do it.

So, your Z9D had issues beyond being fixed/serviced? Was it out of warranty?

Also how much did you pay for your set as it seemed like you were offended I mentioned $2K being a good deal?
"2K is bargain basement pricing! It's must be great to say that."


Well, some people simply can't afford 2-4 thousand dollar TVs. Some of you have so much disposable income you can upgrade those 2k-4k TVs every 1-2 years. Not everyone can do that.

It is just a weird angle being that you owned the TV set you were talking about the price in a negative way.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by Filmfan73

So, your Z9D had issues beyond being fixed/serviced? Was it out of warranty?

Also how much did you pay for your set as it seemed like you were offended I mentioned $2K being a good deal?
"2K is bargain basement pricing! It's must be great to say that."


Well, some people simply can't afford 2-4 thousand dollar TVs. Some of you have so much disposable income you can upgrade those 2k-4k TVs every 1-2 years. Not everyone can do that.

It is just a weird angle being that you owned the TV set you were talking about the price in a negative way.

I had my Z9D for about 3 weeks, so it was still under warranty and within my return window. Sony did not want to repair it, they offered me another TV. I used my Best Buy credit card.

[Member-425016]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

I had my Z9D for about 3 weeks, so it was still under warranty and within my return window. Sony did not want to repair it, they offered me another TV. I used my Best Buy credit card.

What in thunder was so bad about your Z9D that Sony didn't even bother to send a technician to your location to attempt a repair?

What you describe isn't how Sony operates under warranty. Very far from it!

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

I did own a Z9D (great picture quality) but I had to return it because it was defective (see my point). I couldn't find another one and Sony did not want to fix it, they offered me a Z9F, I wasn't enthusiastic about it . I asked for an A8F OLED, they wouldn't do it.

Sony knows better than to replace a cheap LCD with an OLED.

[Agent Kay]

Cheap?

[recS-12]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

I had my Z9D for about 3 weeks, so it was still under warranty and within my return window. Sony did not want to repair it, they offered me another TV. I used my Best Buy credit card.

Originally Posted by Filmfan73

What in thunder was so bad about your Z9D that Sony didn't even bother to send a technician to your location to attempt a repair?

What you describe isn't how Sony operates under warranty. Very far from it!

Maybe there wasn’t a certified technician within a reasonable distance to look at the Z9D that was no longer being manufactured? Maybe that’s the reason they offered to replace it? Anyways, I’m looking to upsize to a 75” 950h in 2021. I’ll be waiting until it drops in price to $2,000.00 so maybe Memorial Day sale? What else would be competitive in the 75” size at $2,000 and under???