The Criterion Collection

[COLD_COBRA_]

Damn, amazon still has their sale going on. I guess i'll buy another one since I'm bored. If it's 14.99, for some reason I want it less. Aside from 12 angry men, nothing really screams essential that I don't already have. With that said....

Purple Noon and Broadcast News keep calling my name.

[jw007]

I've been deciding whether or not I should blind buy the Criterion BD edition of Heaven's Gate for the longest time. Is this film (which got terrible reviews when it was released in 1980) really worth owning?

[hoytereden]

Originally Posted by jw007

I've been deciding whether or not I should blind buy the Criterion BD edition of Heaven's Gate for the longest time. Is this film (which got terrible reviews when it was released in 1980) really worth owning?

I really enjoyed it but, truth be told, it's a slow-moving film. Beautiful to look at though. (The scenery and Isabelle Huppert.)

[The Great Owl]

Originally Posted by jw007

Asobi Seksu

Good call! I've seen several of their shows here in Atlanta. Citrus is a great album, as is Hush.

[Abdrewes]

Originally Posted by jw007

I've been deciding whether or not I should blind buy the Criterion BD edition of Heaven's Gate for the longest time. Is this film (which got terrible reviews when it was released in 1980) really worth owning?

I adore the film. You may need to stretch a little at the 2 hour mark, but its worth it. It has some of the most striking imagery this side of Visconti's The Leopard. It's grand, it's excessive, it's at times unwieldy, but always magnificent. Beware that it is a bit heavy handed in its Message ( tge struggles of being an immigrant)

Criterion really knocked it out of the park with the release (though it could have used a few more extras).

Are you a fan of historical epics/ westerns, jw007?

[Kevin Holly]

Originally Posted by Abdrewes

Are you a fan of historical epics/ westerns, jw007?

I am not a fan of either of those genres, and I also adore this film. I think he should buy it, no questions asked.

[deepbreathsanddeath]

Originally Posted by blackhawktraffic

I agree with you it as a great choice for them to make and one that surprised me to choose it, but it seems it was one that was well worth it. I hope they also do consider more contemporary films in the future there is a lot of good independent stuff they could have from the past 5 years easily but I haven't seen much.

Did you sister end up liking the film? Is that even appropriate to ask?

I completely agree. Yes haha that's appropriate to ask. My sister an her girlfriend LOVED it. Her girlfriend is more into lesbian films if they're watching gay cinema I think but my sister is more into the boys when it comes to gay cinema.

It disappoints her that there isn't many genuinly well made lesbian films and tends to get irritated by lesbian characters and I agree. Most lesbian films I've seen have been really mediocre or worse. An example of her irritation towards lesbians would be Queer as Folk (US). She fell in love with all the boys but absolutely HATED the lesbian couple. It seems that most of the time Lesbians are either dramatic b*****s or sappy sooks.

I also bought Shelter for them, a good little gay flick released in the UK. They enjoyed that a lot too but not as much as Weekend. The leading boys came off too straight. No chemistry and they seemed uncomfortable getting intimate.

Anyway, I have gone a bit off subject. I hope to see Criterion release more independant contemporary cinema in their collection. Yes

[Abdrewes]

Originally Posted by Kevin Holly

I am not a fan of either of those genres, and I also adore this film. I think he should buy it, no questions asked.

There you go.

Seriously though, has there ever existed an actor more perfectly suited for a western than Kris Kristofferson? The man fills the role and then some.

[deepbreathsanddeath]

Originally Posted by Abdrewes

I adore the film. You may need to stretch a little at the 2 hour mark, but its worth it. It has some of the most striking imagery this side of Visconti's The Leopard. It's grand, it's excessive, it's at times unwieldy, but always magnificent. Beware that it is a bit heavy handed in its Message ( tge struggles of being an immigrant)

Criterion really knocked it out of the park with the release (though it could have used a few more extras).

Are you a fan of historical epics/ westerns, jw007?

Second Sight have their own release of Heavens Gate planned too. I was a little disappointed by The Deer Hunter but I still have a positive feeling towards it and the desire to rewatch it. I am interested in Heavens Gate honestly from a visual stand point but am hoping for some worthwhile substance aswel. I have a feeling that Second Sight may give us more extras so I'm holding out to see first.

[jw007]

Originally Posted by Abdrewes

I adore the film. You may need to stretch a little at the 2 hour mark, but its worth it. It has some of the most striking imagery this side of Visconti's The Leopard. It's grand, it's excessive, it's at times unwieldy, but always magnificent. Beware that it is a bit heavy handed in its Message ( tge struggles of being an immigrant)

Criterion really knocked it out of the park with the release (though it could have used a few more extras).

Are you a fan of historical epics/ westerns, jw007?

Not a fan of Westerns at all even though my name is Jon Wayne. Funny, isn't it? I have to admit, the only Western I ever owned on BD/DVD/VHS was Tombstone. Although I suppose you can say that Dances With Wolves is a Western as well (and I love that film and own it on BD). Also, I suppose The Frisco Kid also counts as a Western (funny film that I also have on DVD). I don't believe a film such as The Postman counts as a Western but for some reason I liked Kevin Costner's Open Range the one time I saw it in the theater. Of course I enjoyed Back to the Future Part III as well, but I'm not into Spaghetti Westerns (although Sergio Leone made some fine ones) or John Wayne Westerns (The Searchers, True Grit, Rio Bravo, Red River) or even the old Clint Eastwood Westerns (The Outlaw Josey Wales, Unforgiven, The Good the Bad and the Ugly). I do of course admire John Ford and Howard Hawks' Westerns. As a former film major in college, I came to appreciate some of the great Westerns but I just never was intrigued.

I suppose the greatest Western I like isn't even truly a Western. That would be Star Trek. Yes, the original TV series from the 1960s I'm referring to. Those were basically Westerns in space with morality plays. Great shows indeed.

Ultimately since I am a fan of Kris Kristofferson (saw him perform live in concert too a few years ago), I am probably going to buy Heaven's Gate. Why did the critics back then bash this film so much? Who knows.

[blackhawktraffic]

Originally Posted by deepbreathsanddeath

I completely agree. Yes haha that's appropriate to ask. My sister an her girlfriend LOVED it. Her girlfriend is more into lesbian films if they're watching gay cinema I think but my sister is more into the boys when it comes to gay cinema.

It disappoints her that there isn't many genuinly well made lesbian films and tends to get irritated by lesbian characters and I agree. Most lesbian films I've seen have been really mediocre or worse. An example of her irritation towards lesbians would be Queer as Folk (US). She fell in love with all the boys but absolutely HATED the lesbian couple. It seems that most of the time Lesbians are either dramatic b*****s or sappy sooks.

I also bought Shelter for them, a good little gay flick released in the UK. They enjoyed that a lot too but not as much as Weekend. The leading boys came off too straight. No chemistry and they seemed uncomfortable getting intimate.

Anyway, I have gone a bit off subject. I hope to see Criterion release more independant contemporary cinema in their collection. Yes

No worries going off topic isn't a sin. Glad to hear that though, but I have come across a few good lesbian films via Netflix and my Queer Theory film class, well made but a little dark I would say the following fall into "Heavenly Creatures", "Sister My Sister" to name a couple arent ones that arent as well known as say "High Art" and some of the better lesbian films out there.

[hoytereden]

Originally Posted by jw007

I suppose the greatest Western I like isn't even truly a Western. That would be Star Trek. Yes, the original TV series I'm referring to. Those were basically Westerns in space with morality plays. Great shows indeed.

Gene Rodenberry referred to it as "Wagon Train in space" so it did have some western in it's veins.

[hoytereden]

Originally Posted by Abdrewes

Seriously though, has there ever existed an actor more perfectly suited for a western than Kris Kristofferson?

Sam Elliott

[pro-bassoonist]

Pro-B

[rock, stone]

Originally Posted by Abdrewes

Seriously though, has there ever existed an actor more perfectly suited for a western than Kris Kristofferson?

Originally Posted by hoytereden

Sam Elliott

If Sam Elliott's moustache ever meets Kris Kristofferson's beard, the two would go at it like so many Naked Lunch Typewriters...

[rock, stone]

Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

Pro-B

And yet the man uses the sloppiest blurring possible to cover the pubic hair he framed to include for the home video releases.

[GoldMotel]

My dreams have come true! Yes yes yes!

So glad I waited instead of importing the StudioCanal version. Criterion is top notch.

[White Dang]

Originally Posted by jw007

Not a fan of Westerns at all even though my name is Jon Wayne.

I myself can't stand John Wayne, save for "The Searchers." Did you ever try "The Proposition"? It's hard to say if you will like it for sure, but it's an outback western and it's written by good old Nick Cave. I would also HIGHLY recommend "Once Upon a Time in the West" if you haven't delved into it yet.
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If Mulholland Drive is released in Criterion it's going to be in my top 5 Criterions for sure.

[brandon_260]

Originally Posted by jw007

I think Slowdive's Souvlaki is my favorite all-time shoegaze/space rock album ever. I can listen to that album nonstop and still never get tired of it. Can you recall any films where any songs from the Souvlaki album are on there? If so, Criterion ought to release an edition with any shoegaze music on there (the only movie that comes to mind is Lost in Translation with Kevin Shields doing a bit of the score).

I'm not sure how much you keep up with modern shoegaze-y music, but these are definitely two bands you should give a shot. Whirr is more traditional shoegaze, while Pity Sex blends shoegaze with 90's emo. http://whirrband.bandcamp.com/ http://runforcoverrecords.bandcamp.c.../feast-of-love

Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

Marketa Lazarová Blu-ray REVIEW

Ugh, even more upsetting that amazon.ca still hasn't shipped me my copy. Hopefully it shows up in time for the weekend!

[italy12]

Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

Pro-B

Is this just for sh*** and giggles, or is this coming to Criterion????

Any others besides Eraserhead? Maybe Lost Highway??

Thanks, pro-b.

EDIT: Nevermind...saw your other post!!