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Old 07-21-2013, 11:38 PM   #77941
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Is this why it went OOP? Did Criterion lose the rights or are they just re-releasing it later on?
They recently re-got the rights that were expiring soon. Hulot and Mon Oncle are also OOP. They will all presumably make it to blu-ray this time, and probably get a makeover as well (else they'd probably have just keep them in print).

The box set thing, that seems to be wishful thinking by a few people more than anything. They've been in and out of print a couple times. No reason why there would be a box set next time either, unless there had been one before. (Just like with the Antonionis...)
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:43 PM   #77942
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Hey guys/gals... looking for a little help.

I'm headed to Barnes&Nobles this week to pick up Devils Backbone. While I'm there, I thought I might pick up a few more titles.

These are all blind buys and kinda interest me:

charade
breathless
diabolique
m
8 1/2
safety last
lord of the flies
the seventh seal
robinson crusoe on mars

Unfortunately, I can't afford them all and would love some help weeding through. As a reference, I'm rather new to these more "artsy" films, but really enjoyed Island of Lost Souls, 39 steps, Blob, Cronos, The Grapes of Wrath, 12 Angry men and To Kill a Mockingbird.

Maybe list your top 5 if your interested...

Thanks!
Since you're new to this, I'll list the essentials from your list:

M
The Seventh Seal
8 1/2

Those are must haves for any film buff. Breathless is also an essential, but it's not recommended for those just getting into these types of films, IMO.

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Old 07-21-2013, 11:43 PM   #77943
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Hey guys/gals... looking for a little help.

I'm headed to Barnes&Nobles this week to pick up Devils Backbone. While I'm there, I thought I might pick up a few more titles.

These are all blind buys and kinda interest me:

charade
breathless
diabolique
m
8 1/2
safety last
lord of the flies
the seventh seal
robinson crusoe on mars

Unfortunately, I can't afford them all and would love some help weeding through. As a reference, I'm rather new to these more "artsy" films, but really enjoyed Island of Lost Souls, 39 steps, Blob, Cronos, The Grapes of Wrath, 12 Angry men and To Kill a Mockingbird.

Maybe list your top 5 if your interested...

Thanks!
Well, all of those are good choices, especially for a newcomer to the Criterion criteria. If you're new to "artsy" films, you should probably start with CHARADE and SAFETY LAST, which are solid entertainment with style, and true classics (you might also try Chaplin's THE GOLD RUSH OR MODERN TIMES instead of or in addition to SAFETY LAST). Then maybe go to M, THE SEVENTH SEAL, and either 8 1/2 or BREATHLESS to give you a good taste for what the Criterion Collection specializes in and get your feet wet with some of the major films of the traditional foreign artfilm canon that "everyone" has seen.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:44 PM   #77944
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My favorite Fellini film, I Vitelloni, needs to be upgraded to Blu-ray. The existing Criterion DVD is quite nice, but could use some improvement.
Love that one! Out of the Fellini I've seen, it seems the most "normal" and more fitting of the commedia all'italiana than his other films. It was solid though, I really enjoy watching his exploration of the immature Italian male.

I just watched Sullivan's Travels for the first time, which was really intelligent and satirical, but wasn't as non-stop funny as The Lady Eve or The Palm Beach Story, both of which I prefer. I did enjoy the scene
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:46 PM   #77945
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Hey guys/gals... looking for a little help.

I'm headed to Barnes&Nobles this week to pick up Devils Backbone. While I'm there, I thought I might pick up a few more titles.

These are all blind buys and kinda interest me:

charade
breathless
diabolique
m
8 1/2
safety last
lord of the flies
the seventh seal
robinson crusoe on mars

Unfortunately, I can't afford them all and would love some help weeding through. As a reference, I'm rather new to these more "artsy" films, but really enjoyed Island of Lost Souls, 39 steps, Blob, Cronos, The Grapes of Wrath, 12 Angry men and To Kill a Mockingbird.

Maybe list your top 5 if your interested...

Thanks!
I guess my top 5 would be

Red Desert
Thin Red Line
Solaris
Being John Malkovich
Blow Out
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:55 PM   #77946
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Great info guys! keep it coming!

abdrews, sorry I meant 5 from my list.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:58 PM   #77947
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Hey guys/gals... looking for a little help.

I'm headed to Barnes&Nobles this week to pick up Devils Backbone. While I'm there, I thought I might pick up a few more titles.

These are all blind buys and kinda interest me:

charade
breathless
diabolique
m
8 1/2
safety last
lord of the flies
the seventh seal
robinson crusoe on mars

Unfortunately, I can't afford them all and would love some help weeding through. As a reference, I'm rather new to these more "artsy" films, but really enjoyed Island of Lost Souls, 39 steps, Blob, Cronos, The Grapes of Wrath, 12 Angry men and To Kill a Mockingbird.

Maybe list your top 5 if your interested...

Thanks!
Of your list, the only three I've seen are:

charade
breathless
diabolique

Diabolique is my favourite of the three.

Charade is a fun movie, though I haven't pulled the trigger and bought it yet.

Breathless... I dunno, I should revisit it. I didn't dislike it, but it also didn't have a huge impact on me.
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:00 AM   #77948
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Hey guys/gals... looking for a little help.

I'm headed to Barnes&Nobles this week to pick up Devils Backbone. While I'm there, I thought I might pick up a few more titles.

These are all blind buys and kinda interest me:

charade
breathless
diabolique

m
8 1/2
safety last
lord of the flies
the seventh seal
robinson crusoe on mars

Unfortunately, I can't afford them all and would love some help weeding through. As a reference, I'm rather new to these more "artsy" films, but really enjoyed Island of Lost Souls, 39 steps, Blob, Cronos, The Grapes of Wrath, 12 Angry men and To Kill a Mockingbird.

Maybe list your top 5 if your interested...

Thanks!
I would start with these three, and then proceed from there.
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:01 AM   #77949
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I guess my top 5 would be

Red Desert
Thin Red Line
Solaris
Being John Malkovich
Blow Out
Never would have expected this, but it's nice to see. I wish the store I visited at the beginning of the sale so I could have finally upgraded BJM.

As for my top 5:

The Thin Red Line
Fanny and Alexander
Solaris
Breathless
Three Colors Trilogy

I stuck with only blu-ray releases, to make it easier to narrow down. I can easily see Marketa Lazarova taking out Breathless or Three Colors after I've sat on the film longer and revisited it.
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:07 AM   #77950
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Unfortunately, I can't afford them all and would love some help weeding through.
Charade is sort of light but a lot of fun. It's got a solid Hitchcock (think To Catch a Thief) feel and it looks great (which really brings out the travelogue appeal of the Paris setting). The performances and characters are kind of cheesy and over-the-top but again, in a very fun way.

Diabolique is flat-out fantastic. It's really not fair to call it The French Psycho (especially since it predates Psycho by five years) but as thumbnail sketches go that's pretty accurate. It has a very similar blend of atmosphere, tension and suspense.

M is also a must-see. Not only was it waaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of its time, it's a damned good story that's every bit as engaging as it ever was.

I don't think you could go wrong with any of those (although if funds are limited you might also consider Universal's recent Charade release...it's been pretty favorably reviewed).
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:19 AM   #77951
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Fanny and Alexander is an emotional rollercoaster of a film, but key images and sequences always put a smile on my face. It's still one of my favorite cinematic depictions of a Christmas celebration. The movie's later scenes vary in impact, but the end result makes me feel good.
Best Christmas film ever. The dinner at the very end..

Amazing that Bergman and Kurosawa put out what could arguably be called their greatest work so late in their careers.
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:23 AM   #77952
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Great info guys! keep it coming!

abdrews, sorry I meant 5 from my list.
In that case:
M
81/2
Diabolique
Breathless
Seventh Seal
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:25 AM   #77953
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To all,

Please participate in my new poll: The top 20 best films of the 1940's.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...57#post7862557
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:27 AM   #77954
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Thanks!
The Double Life of Veronique
Revanche
12 Angry Men
Lonesome
Fish Tank
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:29 AM   #77955
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Revanche
12 Angry Men
Lonesome
Fish Tank
He means from HIS list.
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:32 AM   #77956
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He means from HIS list.
Oops.

I only enjoyed Charade and Diabolique from that list. I thought Robinson Crusoe was neat, even though it wasn't my style, and I was pretty let down by 8 1/2, M, Safety Last!, and The Seventh Seal.
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:33 AM   #77957
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So I just wachted Walkabout and seriously guys, amazing film! The music alone makes it incredible, I was a huge fan of John Barry before I even saw this movie. Anyone else feel the landscape shots were slightly Kubrick like in style? Also, the swimming hole scene, it reminded me a lot of a
[Show spoiler]Claude Monet painting
, not sure if the director was going for that.
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:40 AM   #77958
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Okay, I just watched Black Narcissus for the first time and am getting my mind around it, so this write-up might be an epic fail, but here goes...



Black Narcissus, a stunningly beautiful Technicolor feature directed by the team of Michael Powell and Emeric Pressburger, pitches a cinematic curve ball like nothing that I have seen in recent memory. Most of Black Narcissus plays out exactly in the way that a modern viewer might expect of a grandiose British film that features thematic undercurrents concerning imperialism, codes of conduct, and suppressed desires. When the final third of this film suddenly veers into German expressionist horror and classic Universal horror territory, however, we realize that the rigid splendor of the earlier scenes are all the more brilliant in their misdirection.

Black Narcissus was released more than a decade before the publication of Shirley Jackson's 1959 novel, The Haunting of Hill House, and the subsequent 1963 adaptation, The Haunting. I cannot help wondering if Shirley Jackson was thinking of Black Narcissus when she penned her tale of a vulnerably disturbed woman whose psyche gradually unravels upon her arrival at a mansion with a dark past. The setting of Black Narcissus, a gorgeous harem palace atop a remote mountain in the Himalayas that Anglican nuns wish to convert to a convent community, is nowhere near as ominous as the mansion that Shirley Jackson would later describe in her novel, but the location has a similar effect of reminding us that ambitious wishes of people to change the culture and aura of a physical place can often result in the corrosion of their own psychological armor. As the nuns, led by the radiant Sister Clodagh (Deborah Kerr), encounter misinterpretation of their benevolent intentions by the locals, physical illness reactions to their new home, distractions to their duties by way of the very beauty of their surroundings, and unexpected sexual tensions brought about by the presence of memorable male characters, we sense that the clean natural air and the plethora of colorful exuberance of the palace will not easily be transformed into an establishment befitting of concentration and devout work ethic. Without revealing too much of the outcome, I will go so far as to say that I cannot possibly imagine a better double feature movie night than the pairing of Black Narcissus and The Haunting. Of course, Black Narcissus, based on a novel by Rumer Godden, may have very well subtly drawn several of its own cues from Joseph Conrad's novel, Heart of Darkness.

Many viewers may find certain aspects of the production of Black Narcissus to give the movie a forced feel by today's standards. We have a Pinewood Studios location standing in as the gorgeous mountaintop convent by way of matte paintings and ingenious camera work, we have a handful of Caucasian actors portraying India locals, and we have a few obvious imperialist allegories, such as a child character teaching the English names of warfare instruments to a class. In my eyes, however, these aspects of Black Narcissus only serve to strengthen the film's underlying themes about the struggle of trying to mold external surroundings to fit our own rigid value systems.

Black Narcissus, with all its Technicolor wonder, looks ravishing on this Criterion Blu-ray. The mountaintop convent looks believable down to every detail. One unforgettable moment with a character applying lipstick is presented in sharp close-ups to give us one of the most unnerving, but incredibly erotic, sequences in cinema. The generous supplements shed light on the fascinating story of the production of Black Narcissus, and demonstrate the film's influence on filmmakers like Martin Scorsese, whose appreciation of this movie can be sensed in almost every frame of his own underrated 2010 movie, Shutter Island.
Great review.++

Interesting comparison with Shutter Island!
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So I just wachted Walkabout and seriously guys, amazing film! The music alone makes it incredible, I was a huge fan of John Barry before I even saw this movie. Anyone else feel the landscape shots were slightly Kubrick like in style? Also, the swimming hole scene, it reminded me a lot of a
[Show spoiler]Claude Monet painting
, not sure if the director was going for that.
I didn't think it had much in common with Kubrick. That super elliptical introduction is far away from Kubrick Territory.

Little bit 'O' trivia: Toby Scott was influenced by Roeg (specifically, Performance). He mentions this in The Hunger's commentary track.
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I didn't think it had much in common with Kubrick. That super elliptical introduction is far away from Kubrick Territory.

Little bit 'O' trivia: Toby Scott was influenced by Roeg (specifically, Performance). He mentions this in The Hunger's commentary track.
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Maybe every director was doing these kinds of shots, just part of the 70's.
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