The Criterion Collection

[Lannister1098]

Originally Posted by spacekitty

It's very coherent for a Lynch film. Sad story.

I heard that this movie is very sad, but I heard so many good things about this movie. It’s very nice to hear that it’s a coherent movie.

[KingOfBunnies]

Hey guys. Gonna post what's currently in my cart. However, there were two others I wanted to get and was wondering if I should splurge extra on them or wait for the next sale. The two I want to get but might hold off on are Eyes Without A Face and Seconds.



I just realized as I made this post that this has 4 Japanese films on it and honestly, it was entirely unintentional.

[Cecil B. DeMille]

The folks over at another home video forum exclusively dedicated to Criterion have speculated based on the fact that a lot of Warner Scorsese Blu-rays or UHDs have been going out of print recently (Mean Streets, Goodfellas) or have never even been available on the format before (Who's That Knocking at My Door, Alice Doesn't Love Here Anymore, After Hours) that a Scorsese at Warner blu-ray/UHD box set might be in the works.
This is also due to Criterion and Scorsese having a close relationship and Criterion evidently being in the process of restoring several Scorsese pictures, having recently released several Scorsese UHDs.
After Hours has been rumored since the Projection Booth podcast posted that Criterion was going to release it.

A potential Scorsese at Warner box set could contain the following titles:

• Who's That Knocking at My Door (1967)
• Mean Streets (1973)
• Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore (1974)
• After Hours (1985)
• Goodfellas (1990)
• The Aviator (2004)
• The Departed (2006)

What do you think about a possible Scorsese at Warner Criterion box set? I know I'd be very excited for one, especially if it was UHD.

DISCLAIMER: At this point, this is mere speculation!

[JoelGoodsen]

At this point, I just really want After Hours on 4K.

Way too good of a film to be languishing on DVD.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by Cecil B. DeMille

The folks over at another home video forum exclusively dedicated to Criterion have speculated based on the fact that a lot of Warner Scorsese Blu-rays or UHDs have been going out of print recently (Mean Streets, Goodfellas) or have never even been available on the format before (Who's That Knocking at My Door, Alice Doesn't Love Here Anymore, After Hours) that a Scorsese at Warner blu-ray/UHD box set might be in the works.
This is also due to Criterion and Scorsese having a close relationship and Criterion evidently being in the process of restoring several Scorsese pictures, having recently released several Scorsese UHDs.
After Hours has been rumored since the Projection Booth podcast posted that Criterion was going to release it.

A potential Scorsese at Warner box set could contain the following titles:

• Who's That Knocking at My Door (1967)
• Mean Streets (1973)
• Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore (1974)
• After Hours (1985)
• Goodfellas (1990)
• The Aviator (2004)
• The Departed (2006)

What do you think about a possible Scorsese at Warner Criterion box set? I know I'd be very excited for one, especially if it was UHD.

DISCLAIMER: At this point, this is mere speculation!

It was brought up in the thread a few days back:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...7#post20297477

Personally, I don't see films like The Aviator and The Departed being part of any sort of set. I could also just see After Hours getting its own release because it's a big enough film, and it would probably anger a lot of people if CC forced people to get the set to be able to buy that film.

[Gunsnroses092789]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

It was brought up in the thread a few days back:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...7#post20297477

Personally, I don't see films like The Aviator and The Departed being part of any sort of set. I could also just see After Hours getting its own release because it's a big enough film, and it would probably anger a lot of people if CC forced people to get the set to be able to buy that film.

Yeah, honestly, I think all the films are too big for a box, except Who's That Knocking At My Door, which I could see more as a special feature on a Mean Streets release, a la Killer's Kiss on The Killing.

[SeanJoyce]

I can definitely see a Scorsese at WB boxset, but not titles like The Aviator and The Departed. Goodfellas is pretty suspect too.

[mande2013]

Originally Posted by jkoffman

I emailed the Mulvaney account and implied that I'm familiar with discs and had already tried cleaning them, yet got some personal response mixed with the usual boiler plate stuff about cleaning. I've handled tens of thousands of discs in my lifetime, from CDs to LDs to DVDs to BDs, and I've owned hundreds of Criterions, so it does get tiring to get a bit of a brush off again. I'm old enough to remember when brand new meant it was in new condition. Just trying to do my bit in hopes of seeing some improvement someday.

In reference to the response you received, I've never managed to "buff out" a surface scratch on a blu-ray. I'd like to know in what universe they think that's possible.

[jkoffman]

Originally Posted by mande2013

In reference to the response you received, I've never managed to "buff out" a surface scratch on a blu-ray. I'd like to know in what universe they think that's possible.

Agreed. It's some real gaslighting to suggest it's not an issue and also the customer's problem. Blu-Ray manufacturers clearly state that scratches can affect play, and they always have.

[Cecil B. DeMille]

Originally Posted by Gunsnroses092789

Yeah, honestly, I think all the films are too big for a box, except Who's That Knocking At My Door, which I could see more as a special feature on a Mean Streets release, a la Killer's Kiss on The Killing.

I could imagine at least an Early Scorsese at WB box set. Including Who's That Knocking at My Door (1967), Mean Streets (1973) and Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore (1974). After all, they all have that New Hollywood feel to them.

A release of a film in a box set also does not rule out an individual release in the future. Criterion have released films from box sets separately as well as repackaged separate releases as box sets quite a few times in the past.

[The Great Owl]

All too often now in the new millennium, I watch contemporary adventure movies and do not believe for a single second that the characters are actually outdoors. When I go for a trail run in the national park by my neighborhood, I usually return with sweat stains and salt rings on my clothing, caked dirt on my legs, dried saliva on my lips, and uneven redness on my face from the sun. Today's movie heroes, though, can fight bloody battles on an African plain against the demon armies of an intergalactic tyrant or race their fast and furious cars against Russian submarines on a polar ice cap while still looking as though they just stepped off of an Entertainment Weekly magazine photo shoot.

The unfortunate passengers and crew in the 1965 survival drama, The Flight of the Phoenix, are not particularly photogenic in the days following the emergency landing of their twin-engine cargo plane somewhere in the Sahara desert. The experienced pilot, played by James Stewart, his alcoholic navigator, played by Richard Attenborough, and their diverse ensemble of fellow stranded souls, played by the likes of Ernest Borgnine, Hardy Krüger, Ian Bannen, Dan Duryea, Peter Finch, and George Kennedy, are sloppily unshaven, with sun and sand-drenched faces of peeling skin.

I detest group projects even during the best of conditions. My heart, therefore, goes out to this ragtag assortment of dehydrated and malnourished men who are forced by circumstances to repair their downed aircraft, with the only alternative being to wither away and die on the sand dunes in the middle of nowhere. I would probably not enjoy working in the vicinity of the cocky wisecracker, played by Bannon, who walks around clanging loudly on a piece of metal with a hammer. I would definitely not enjoy working with a burned out foreman, played by Borgnine, who has devolved into muttering nonsensical meandering phrases. I would not want to work with a sergeant, played by Ronald Fraser, who would likely fake illness or injury to get out of participating. I would not care to work under the supervision of Stewart's pilot, who would look at me with a smug disdain if I were to disappoint him. Finally, count me out of working with the know-it-all who is always right, played by Krüger, who seems to be present at every office meeting.

This film, directed by Robert Aldrich (Kiss Me Deadly, The Dirty Dozen), loves and hates the above characters in equal measures, as it should. These scorched and dirty faces on the screen are, like the rest of us, inherently flawed people who have the capacity for unlikely triumphs. I become irritable when I am tired, even when I am just standing outdoors in the sun waiting for gates to open for a summer concert. I am also impatient to the point where I am that annoying guy who occasionally makes the audible sigh when I am standing in a line at my local bank. I do, however, have the presence of mind to find humor in trying situations, even once when I was flooded out of an apartment during a massive deluge a couple of decades ago. I have no idea how I would act if I were to end up in the scenario that befalls our leads in the desert, but I applaud Aldrich and his cast for placing a myriad of possibilities on the table in a convincing way.

The Flight of the Phoenix reinforces my opinion that John Ford's 1939 masterpiece, Stagecoach, is directly responsible for at least one third of all of the movies that have been made since its release. While there may be nothing particularly new about the notion of placing disparate personalities in a common life-for-death setting, however, I applaud this one for doing so in such gloriously unkempt fashion. Enjoy this movie, and stay out of the sun.


Having never seen this movie before, I cannot comment on whether or not the faded look of the Criterion Collection Blu-ray presentation is faithful, but I get the impression that this is a film that should not be spruced up too much, lest one defeat the purpose.

[mande2013]

Originally Posted by jkoffman

Agreed. It's some real gaslighting to suggest it's not an issue and also the customer's problem. Blu-Ray manufacturers clearly state that scratches can affect play, and they always have.

I just e-mailed them with the following text:

"I just wanted to let you know I recently imported Criterion's UHD release of Raging Bull to France, and was quite disappointed to discover a rather conspicuous scratch on the data side of the 4K UHD disc, as pictured below. My aim with this message is not necessarily to request a replacement of this release but merely to express my disappointment with receiving a blemished copy of a product I presumably purchased brand new, especially considering how costly it can be to import your already pricey releases to Europe. I've encountered this same issue with previous Criterion releases, as well, and this isn't the first e-mail I've sent to you regarding this problem, which I gather can be traced to the pressing plant where your discs are manufactured. I only hope that in the future your team can find a solution to this conundrum that's been the source of endless frustration for many of your customers in recent years. I look forward to hearing from you soon."

[jkoffman]

Originally Posted by mande2013

I just e-mailed them with the following text:

"I just wanted to let you know I recently imported Criterion's UHD release of Raging Bull to France, and was quite disappointed to discover a rather conspicuous scratch on the data side of the 4K UHD disc, as pictured below. My aim with this message is not necessarily to request a replacement of this release but merely to express my disappointment with receiving a blemished copy of a product I presumably purchased brand new, especially considering how costly it can be to import your already pricey releases to Europe. I've encountered this same issue with previous Criterion releases, as well, and this isn't the first e-mail I've sent to you regarding this problem, which I gather can be traced to the pressing plant where your discs are manufactured. I only hope that in the future your team can find a solution to this conundrum that's been the source of endless frustration for many of your customers in recent years. I look forward to hearing from you soon."

Yes, but have you tried cleaning it?

[beantherio]

Originally Posted by Cecil B. DeMille

The folks over at another home video forum exclusively dedicated to Criterion have speculated based on the fact that a lot of Warner Scorsese Blu-rays or UHDs have been going out of print recently (Mean Streets, Goodfellas) or have never even been available on the format before (Who's That Knocking at My Door, Alice Doesn't Love Here Anymore, After Hours) that a Scorsese at Warner blu-ray/UHD box set might be in the works.
This is also due to Criterion and Scorsese having a close relationship and Criterion evidently being in the process of restoring several Scorsese pictures, having recently released several Scorsese UHDs.
After Hours has been rumored since the Projection Booth podcast posted that Criterion was going to release it.

A potential Scorsese at Warner box set could contain the following titles:

• Who's That Knocking at My Door (1967)
• Mean Streets (1973)
• Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore (1974)
• After Hours (1985)
• Goodfellas (1990)
• The Aviator (2004)
• The Departed (2006)

What do you think about a possible Scorsese at Warner Criterion box set? I know I'd be very excited for one, especially if it was UHD.

DISCLAIMER: At this point, this is mere speculation!

I can see Criterion release an "Early Scorsese at Warner" boxset with just Who's That Knocking at My Door, Mean Streets and Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore. Those films would combine very nicely in one set. Maybe they can add Boxcar Bertha to it and just make it an "Early Scorsese" set. That title has been OOP for a while.

In 2016 BFI announced that they were going to publish Who's That Knocking at My Door and Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore for which they even published the cover art. They were never released though and I have always wondered what the reason for that was.

[Ender14]

Originally Posted by mande2013

In reference to the response you received, I've never managed to "buff out" a surface scratch on a blu-ray. I'd like to know in what universe they think that's possible.

There was a product that I used on several occasions to fix scratches on DVD's back in the day and I'm fairly certain it worked on Blu-ray's as well. It was a paste that would fill in the scratches. You applied and then rubbed it in with a micro fiber cloth, then cleaned it off. I fixed several scratched DVD's using it.

[Cecil B. DeMille]

Originally Posted by beantherio

I can see Criterion release an "Early Scorsese at Warner" boxset with just Who's That Knocking at My Door, Mean Streets and Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore. Those films would combine very nicely in one set. Maybe they can add Boxcar Bertha to it and just make it an "Early Scorsese" set. That title has been OOP for a while.

I think "Boxcar Bertha" is with MGM though. So I doubt that's possible.

Originally Posted by beantherio

In 2016 BFI announced that they were going to publish Who's That Knocking at My Door and Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore for which they even published the cover art. They were never released though and I have always wondered what the reason for that was.

If I recall correctly that was because they eventually found out there weren't any HD masters for these two films available. So they just settled for releasing these two films on DVD only. The releases are currently available from the BFI website for purchase:

[jkoffman]

Originally Posted by Ender14

There was a product that I used on several occasions to fix scratches on DVD's back in the day and I'm fairly certain it worked on Blu-ray's as well. It was a paste that would fill in the scratches. You applied and then rubbed it in with a micro fiber cloth, then cleaned it off. I fixed several scratched DVD's using it.

And how often did you have to use that on brand new discs instead of returning the defective product you just bought?

[MifuneFan]

Nice box set of Kinuyo Tanaka's work coming out in France from Carlotta (no English subs unfortunately). Criterion are doing a retrospective on her, and this is exactly the kind of set I hope they will release here too.



https://www.amazon.fr/Kinuyo-Tanaka-...%2C505&sr=1-87

[Ender14]

Originally Posted by jkoffman

And how often did you have to use that on brand new discs instead of returning the defective product you just bought?

No, I agree. I wouldn't use it on a new disc. I would just return it. I was just pointing out that there was a product that would repair scratched discs.
Mande2013 was not aware it was possible.

I guess I've been incredibly fortunate. Since reports of scratched discs from Criterion came out I've checked all the ones I've purchased recently and thus far none of them have had any blemishes.

[andantelise]

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