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Oblivion138 · 11-20-2013, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TJS_Blu

Specifically, two versions of a Howard Hawks film...Big Sleep?

Hard to believe Warner wouldn't release this themselves (though I'd kill for a Criterion edition of it).

JoeBuck · 11-20-2013, 12:18 AM

I cant believe not ONE person thought to ask about the situation with La Dolce Vita.
If I was in that audience it would've been the first question asked!

thomasomalley · 11-20-2013, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by pedromvu

Sadly i don't remember any case where Criterion ever regained the rights of one of their OOP titles so if this was asked by the audience it really doesn't give much hope.

While it's pretty rare for them to acquire rights if previously OOP titles, it has been done. I'm pretty sure Salo and 400 Blows were OOP before their Bluray releases.

TJS_Blu · 11-20-2013, 12:21 AM

They said that Rossellini's War Trilogy would be redone for blu-ray eventually. I believe they indicated the same time frame for Troell's Emigrants and New Land as well as (memories not clear) Here's Your Life.

The coolest thing I heard was the discovery of a bunch of boxes of film cannisters of Gance's Napoleon. Work is being done on the film elements...so if Criterion gets it it will be a while and the solution with how to do the triptich portions will be a challenge.

jayembee · 11-20-2013, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Snicket

Michael Bay went to Criterion and asked them to release Armageddon.

This is way interesting.

Actually, that was known for quite a while. Hell, I'd even mentioned it in a posting I made in this thread a few months ago. What I found more interesting during the panel was that Michael Bay is apparently a fan of Busby Berkeley. Who'd'a thunk?

StLouisRibs · 11-20-2013, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TJS_Blu

They said that Rossellini's War Trilogy would be redone for blu-ray eventually. I believe they indicated the same time frame for Troell's Emigrants and New Land as well as (memories not clear) Here's Your Life.

I got the implication from the phrasing of that that eventually was code for "not on the agenda, but we'd like to get all our releases upgraded if possible" and not that it's actually been commissioned yet.

RandyK · 11-20-2013, 12:23 AM

I'm on the campus and had no idea they were at the Wex! That's sucks.

More Cronenberg though!

TJS_Blu · 11-20-2013, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Narrator

No, it's obviously Red River.

There's two versions of Red River? That could be. Big Sleep, I know has two versions, that was just my guess, I had assumed Warner would release Sleep.

TJS_Blu · 11-20-2013, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by StLouisRibs

I got the implication from the phrasing of that that eventually was code for "not on the agenda, but we'd like to get all our releases upgraded if possible" and not that it's actually been commissioned yet.

hmm, I got the opposite impression, that is 'definitely on the agenda'...the question was asked and he said Yes before digressing. I could be wrong though

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jayembee · 11-20-2013, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Oblivion138

And you can't help but identify with the difficulty of how, as a producer of home media, does one handle a situation where a film originally projected three full 35mm frames side-by-side. Seriously, how does one make that work on a television set? It's a tricky situation.

The way Becker was describing the difficulties of translating that type of widescreen image to a TV screen is essentially what I've been saying for years about the problems over the years that MGM/UA and Warner have had in their various releases of Brainstorm. No matter what you do, it's not really going to be the way the director originally intended it to be.

I just wish I could afford the plane ticket to England to see Napoleon on the big screen.

TJS_Blu · 11-20-2013, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lordmorpheus72

Does Wexner archive? missed part of this and would like to watch the whole thing.

I think last years showed up on utube after a couple of weeks...

jayembee · 11-20-2013, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jw007

"We have to work with what is available. You have to cook what is in season like when you go to the farmers market."

I love the mention of Coen Bros. and Zeitgeist and how Criterion can't get a hold of their films.

Actually, that was the Quay Brothers, not the Coen Brothers.

It's funny, because Becker mentioned that they'd done a Quay Brothers film on LD, but I don't know of a single one that they've done on LD or DVD.

jayembee · 11-20-2013, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by blkhrt

More Cronenberg and Howard Hawks coming.

I didn't catch which Hawks film they were talking about, only that it was one with "two versions". The only Hawks film I know of off hand with two versions is The Big Sleep. I can't imagine Warner not wanting to do that themselves.

TJS_Blu · 11-20-2013, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Narrator

No, it's obviously Red River.

from IMDB

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According to Peter Bogdanovich, the shorter version is in fact the Director's Cut. Howard Hawks was unhappy with the pacing of the longer, 133 minute cut.
An alternate version, usually shown on television, substitutes spoken narration (by Walter Brennan) to the shots of the pages of a diary and is eight minutes shorter than the original.
The director's cut restores 8 minutes of footage normally cut from the tv version of the film (back to the original 133 minutes).

There you go. Hoping the image is better than MoC's, but will take it if best it can be.

RandyK · 11-20-2013, 12:36 AM

Did they give an indication or hint of the time-frame for more Cronenberg?

TJS_Blu · 11-20-2013, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jayembee

Actually, that was the Quay Brothers, not the Coen Brothers.

It's funny, because Becker mentioned that they'd done a Quay Brothers film on LD, but I don't know of a single one that they've done on LD or DVD.

He was probably referring to the Voyager release(s).

Scottie · 11-20-2013, 12:37 AM

The Big Sleep is already scheduled to come out at the start of next year. I don't see any other company than Warner Bros. releasing it.

TJS_Blu · 11-20-2013, 12:39 AM

The Quay brothers, Akira, & Mr. Fox discussion also had Becker saying that they were in negotiations that could yield another animated title.

toddly6666 · 11-20-2013, 12:40 AM

Well after reading the whole uproar over Frances Ha, I rented it last night and it certainly is a piece of crap film - Pro-B was way too generous with his review.

The only difference between Frances Ha and Lola Versus is that one is in color and the other in black and white but both similarly awful films.

Oblivion138 · 11-20-2013, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyK

Did they give an indication or hint of the time-frame for more Cronenberg?

No...just that it's on the way.

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11-20-2013, 12:18 AM	#88962
JoeBuck Banned Member since:Sep 2011 Location:Vancouver 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:556 Blu-ray reviews: 8 Trading Score:2	I cant believe not ONE person thought to ask about the situation with La Dolce Vita. If I was in that audience it would've been the first question asked!

11-20-2013, 12:21 AM	#88964
TJS_Blu Power Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 4K collection:14 Blu-ray collection:1845 DVD collection:578 Blu-ray reviews:11	They said that Rossellini's War Trilogy would be redone for blu-ray eventually. I believe they indicated the same time frame for Troell's Emigrants and New Land as well as (memories not clear) Here's Your Life. The coolest thing I heard was the discovery of a bunch of boxes of film cannisters of Gance's Napoleon. Work is being done on the film elements...so if Criterion gets it it will be a while and the solution with how to do the triptich portions will be a challenge.

11-20-2013, 12:23 AM	#88967
RandyK Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Dec 2012 Location:Columbus, Ohio 4K collection:1110 Blu-ray collection:4910 DVD collection:131 Digital collection:17 Prime collection:12 Trading Score:6	I'm on the campus and had no idea they were at the Wex! That's sucks. More Cronenberg though!

11-20-2013, 12:36 AM	#88975
RandyK Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Dec 2012 Location:Columbus, Ohio 4K collection:1110 Blu-ray collection:4910 DVD collection:131 Digital collection:17 Prime collection:12 Trading Score:6	Did they give an indication or hint of the time-frame for more Cronenberg?

11-20-2013, 12:37 AM	#88977
Scottie Moderator Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:Rhode Island Trading Score:647	The Big Sleep is already scheduled to come out at the start of next year. I don't see any other company than Warner Bros. releasing it.

11-20-2013, 12:39 AM	#88978
TJS_Blu Power Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 4K collection:14 Blu-ray collection:1845 DVD collection:578 Blu-ray reviews:11	The Quay brothers, Akira, & Mr. Fox discussion also had Becker saying that they were in negotiations that could yield another animated title.

11-20-2013, 12:40 AM	#88979
toddly6666 Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Hong Kong Home Theater Gallery:20 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:1441 DVD collection:31 Blu-ray reviews: 290 Trading Score:61	Well after reading the whole uproar over Frances Ha, I rented it last night and it certainly is a piece of crap film - Pro-B was way too generous with his review. The only difference between Frances Ha and Lola Versus is that one is in color and the other in black and white but both similarly awful films.

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