The Criterion Collection

[fdm]

Originally Posted by shadedpain4

Can we stop it with these posts now? Criterion says they have no relationship with WB and we get these posts every time a WB film is mentioned. Then Criterion releases a WB film and states they *do* have a relationship with them, and we still get these posts every time a WB film is mentioned. Stop! It's not only tiresome but now it's inaccurate as well.

It's 99 and 44/100% accurate. (P.S. Who are you again?)

[fdm]

Originally Posted by hustlermane

Wow that Gaumont transfer of Earrings looks brilliant. It's one of the great films, and its good to see Gaumont admitted they messed up - Criterion's own radio silence is pretty frustrating and hurts their reputation a lot by implying they don't see anything wrong with it. It'll be interesting to see if they have any plans down the line with this new transfer...

I threw it in my cart, not sure how long it will be before I get around to getting it though.

[ShellOilJunior]

Originally Posted by JJJ225

RIP

Godard and Truffaut may have made more great films, but neither made a film as great as Last Year at Marienbad or Hiroshima Mon Amour.

It's hard to argue with that. Those two films stack up against any one director's best two films.

A fitting CC tribute to Resnais would be a release of Hiroshima mon amour and Night and Fog.

[hustlermane]

Originally Posted by Mansinthe

the bluray is defintly worth a bluray upgrade (at least on big screens )


would like to get some of these awesome looking technicolor movies... (red shoes , leopard , black narcissus etc)

are the criterion releases the best way to get these or are the UK releases good choice as well?

the leopard has a italian release with eng subs as well, is this one from a newer restoration as the criterion release uses?

Definitely do some research on The Leopard blu - CC sort of dropped the ball with it. By all accounts the transfer looks great, but they didn't use the most recent restoration that was available. I have the (sadly OOP) Australian disc which is the newer restoration and is probably my most cherished disc in my collection. From memory the Italian and French ones are the best on offer, but I'm not sure if they're English friendly. I think the UK one is the same as the CC…

EDIT: Also, worth noting that CC's The Leopard has an aspect ration of 2.20:1 whereas the new restoration blus are 2.55:1.

[shadedpain4]

Originally Posted by fdm

It's 99 and 44/100% accurate. (P.S. Who are you again?)

I believe my post was 100% accurate, but if you think it was 99.44% accurate, i guess I'll take it.

[Member-167298]

Is there anyway that Criterion will ever release Nights of Cabiria on Blu Ray, or have they totally lost the rights? I have gone for far too long without this wonderful film in my collection!

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by lordmorpheus72

Agreed... and speaking of monster movies LDs, I still have a player and was searching around on ebay and found a King Kong Criterion LD for $5. It's not the first pressing with all of the cool liner notes, but for $5 I couldn't say no. I was going to pick up The Third Man LD as well, but didn't get to it before it ended. There were a few for sale though.... really need to look through all the CC laserdiscs and see if any are worth getting.

Someone posted a link a while back with all the releases, I think I book marked it. But just in case, anyone have a site with all the CC LD releases? Does criterionforum.com have a list?

That was me. The quick and dirty list is at Wikipedia. You can get more detail on titles you might be interested in at the LaserDisc Database.

[Mansinthe]

Originally Posted by hustlermane

Definitely do some research on The Leopard blu - CC sort of dropped the ball with it. By all accounts the transfer looks great, but they didn't use the most recent restoration that was available. I have the (sadly OOP) Australian disc which is the newer restoration and is probably my most cherished disc in my collection. From memory the Italian and French ones are the best on offer, but I'm not sure if they're English friendly. I think the UK one is the same as the CC…

EDIT: Also, worth noting that CC's The Leopard has an aspect ration of 2.20:1 whereas the new restoration blus are 2.55:1.

Thanks. Im pretty sure the italian bluray has eng subs

[dwk]

Originally Posted by hustlermane

Definitely do some research on The Leopard blu - CC sort of dropped the ball with it. By all accounts the transfer looks great, but they didn't use the most recent restoration that was available. I have the (sadly OOP) Australian disc which is the newer restoration and is probably my most cherished disc in my collection. From memory the Italian and French ones are the best on offer, but I'm not sure if they're English friendly. I think the UK one is the same as the CC…

EDIT: Also, worth noting that CC's The Leopard has an aspect ration of 2.20:1 whereas the new restoration blus are 2.55:1.

2.20 is the correct aspect ratio of The Leopard, the new restoration Blu-rays are showing too much at 2.55.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by shadedpain4

Can we stop it with these posts now? Criterion says they have no relationship with WB and we get these posts every time a WB film is mentioned. Then Criterion releases a WB film and states they *do* have a relationship with them, and we still get these posts every time a WB film is mentioned. Stop! It's not only tiresome but now it's inaccurate as well.

Oh, get over it. The person I was responding to said "Agreed, my vote would be to After Hours, but not sure who owns the rights for that." I was telling him who it was that owned the rights. I made no comment or even implication about whether that made it more or less likely to be a Criterion title. I was providing information, and that's all.

But beyond that, it's not unreasonable to point out that there's less of a likelihood that Criterion will release a Warner-owned title than a title from Universal or Sony or whomever. Just as it's not unreasonable to respond that it's unlikely that they'll get the rights back to films owned by StudioCanal.

Criterion can say that they have a "relationship" with Warner, but until we start seeing them release Warner catalog titles beyond the occasional exception like Badlands, I don't see why it's "inaccurate".

[Clare2904]

This may seem a daft question but where do you find out which Studio owns a title?

Also who are the ones that work closely with Criterion ? I know they have a good relationship with Janus.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by hoytereden

Watched it for the first time on TCM the other night. How Burton never won an Oscar either for this or Virginia Woolf is unfathomable.* I lost my way a little towards the end but a rewatch should fix that.

*likewise overlooking Peter O'Toole 8 times!

Generally speaking, it has less to do with whether or not a particular nominee deserves to win than whether another nominee deserves it more. In Burton's case, he probably deserved to win for Spy more than Lee Marvin (the winner) for Cat Ballou, but of the nominees that year, I would've chosen Oskar Werner for Ship of Fools or Rod Steiger for The Pawnbroker over Burton. For Woolf, he lost to Paul Scofield for A Man for All Seasons, and there's absolutely nothing unfathomable about that.

As for Peter O'Toole, he lost to...

Gregory Peck for To Kill a Mockingbird, and rightly so.

Rex Harrison for My Fair Lady -- a toss-up, but not unfathomable.

Cliff Robertson for Charly, and rightly so again.

John Wayne for True Grit -- I would've given it to Dustin Hoffman for Midnight Cowboy

Marlon Brando for The Godfather -- I would've given it to either Caine or Olivier for Sleuth

Robert DeNiro for Raging Bull -- and rightly so.

Ben Kingsley for Gandhi -- and rightly so.

Forest Whitaker for The Last King of Scotland. I can't comment on this as I haven't seen the film O'Toole was nominated for (Venus), nor any of the other nominees' films except Blood Diamond (Leonardo DiCaprio).

[RipleyLV426]

Originally Posted by iScottie

There's a good chance because they have the rights to the films Chaplin made. Not only that, but they released all of the films (including Limelight) on iTunes.

It's safe to say that we'll get The Kid sometime this year (as it was hinted during the 2013 Newsletter) and hopefully City Lights, The Circus, and Limelight are soon to follow.

Hmm..The Circus and Limelight just price dropped on the UK release. But if there's a good chance Criterion will announce one or the other...maybe I should wait I would really think Limelight, especially may be announced soon...decisions,decisions

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by Clare2904

This may seem a daft question but where do you find out which Studio owns a title?

There are several different quick and dirty ways, including looking at the "Company Credits" link for a film at the IMDb and looking up a film on Amazon to see who, if anyone, released it on DVD. These aren't completely accurate methods, as rights do change hands, but as the saying goes, it's good enough for government work.

Otherwise, it's really just a matter of keeping your ear to the ground and paying attention when people mention rights ownership. Like hearing that Ted Turner bought the pre-1986 MGM catalog from MGM/UA, and had also acquired the RKO catalog along the way, and these ended up with Warner Bros when Turner sold his holdings to Time-Warner.

Also who are the ones that work closely with Criterion ? I know they have a good relationship with Janus.

Well, of course they have a good relationship with Janus, since Janus owns Criterion.

Of the US studios, Universal has traditionally been the most license-friendly. Also Buena Vista (Disney), though licensing from them is, I believe, mostly driven by the director (Wes Anderson, Kevin Smith, Michael Bay). Columbia/Sony had been license-friendly with Criterion back in the laserdisc days, but was less so when it came to DVD. They seem to be drifting back to being license-friendly again.

Back in the laserdisc days, Criterion did a number of Warner, MGM, and RKO catalog titles, but that was back before Warner acquired all of those catalogs (it should be noted that Warner sold its library to MGM back in 1948, so MGM -- later MGM/UA -- owned the classic Warner films until Turner bought them and later resold them to Warner). Warner has had a general policy of not licensing any of their titles out to anyone, though they make an exception every now and then.

[Clare2904]

I had a feeling they were connected, Janus & Criterion, but have never actually looked it up

I use iMDB a lot so I'll check there for any info. Thanks for the list of Studios too

[100pr00f]

any one having issues with criterion collection website on firefox. I keep getting error messages and also for some reason sends me to amazon apps/cloud serves for websites as if i was a site owner

[smoss469]

Originally Posted by 100pr00f

any one having issues with criterion collection website on firefox. I keep getting error messages and also for some reason sends me to amazon apps/cloud serves for websites as if i was a site owner

0 issues here. Firefox is all I use and I've never had an issue with the CC site, even during the Flash Sale crashes.

[100pr00f]

Originally Posted by smoss469

0 issues here.

its back to working for me...pretty weird

[Abdrewes]

Just a heads up: Kicking & Screaming (1995) is now available on Netflix to stream.

[smoss469]

Originally Posted by 100pr00f

its back to working for me...pretty weird

Is your sig from Step Brothers?