4K Movies Releases

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

The best video interview to date about the CZ950.....https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...8&postcount=35

In time, I just hope that a sustainable business model for high quality consumer OLED displays evolves (calling on all you early adopters, Geoff's already done his part). The inclusion of a 3D LUT in the Panasonic model is a big technological step forward. The ultimate, you ask? in years to come,

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

...and, further on down the timeline, perhaps displays featuring the ability to load 3D LUTs directly into them.

for those of us who know how to take advantage of it. As, for instance, one is able to do with DCI compliant cinema projectors - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ut#post7973910

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Welcome Alan , long time no hear. Got lightening strikes over yonder?
If you mean what’s in the actual Ultra HD Blu-ray pipeline right now, no public list yet, other than Fox’s announcement.

But now that the Federal data breach lawsuit has been settled (http://www.wtvm.com/story/29947060/f...ed-lawyer-says ) and barrister skullduggery has been revealed ( http://deadline.com/2015/08/iatse-el...ld-1201510836/ ), the time is fast approaching for the Leader of the 4K world to step forward with an update since this last interview…..
http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/8/385...1oesYsa_S9SDz3

or a V.P. or at least a Director, because the industry (BDA) has established physical media standards. Some things actually happened rather quickly, like 4:2:2/4:4:4 being voted down on the very first vote by super majority in technical committee in favor of 4:2:0.

After Kaz had already put down the idea of 4K on disc (http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/8/385...ly-but-not-out) I'd LOVE to hear what his - and by proxy Sony's - thoughts are on the new UHD Blu-ray format. Something tells me he won't be swinging from the chandeliers in delirious delight.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

These video interviews just keep getting better! Sowa's comments on black level bode well for Panasonic and future content faithfully reproducing black and near black. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...1&postcount=37

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Personally, I’ve always kinda favored this one from the Academy, which I previously posted somewhere on this forum last year during a discussion about color correction/DI's…..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOnT...youtu.be&t=53s

Looking back, thee only shortcoming I find with that ^ clip is that it failed to acknowledge the technologist (of whom Daryn and Mike Sowa greatly admire) that designed the color management workflow (from pre to post production[finishing]) making it all possible in the first place to secure and provide the high quality (including dynamic range for future remastering) imagery of which Daryn and Mike could then color grade…..

oh well, just another anonymous tuxedo-clad Academy award winner, with a rather *energetic* sense of humor, especially when onstage.

For the sake of those who weren’t there for that fabled Scientific and Technical Academy award presentation that Saturday, to give y’all an idea, the acceptance speech started like this.….”It’s an honor to be here competing at this year’s annual Olympics for Geeks, uh, we are….***** Riot in drag”. Depending on your point of view, the speech went uphill or downhill from there, but I can tell you that the audience loved it and he is the brains behind movie making at Technicolor....and the whole industry for that matter.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Something tells me he won't be swinging from the chandeliers in delirious delight.

Many are getting the same impression.

[Alan Gordon]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Welcome Alan , long time no hear. Got lightening strikes over yonder?

I was confused by the question until I noticed the address of one of the links provided and was greeted by the weather radar from the neighboring market's ABC affiliate. Cloudy, but no lightning strikes so far...

I've been around... I just don't post much.

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

If you mean what’s in the actual Ultra HD Blu-ray pipeline right now, no public list yet, other than Fox’s announcement.

I appreciate the link you provided in the post afterwards, as that was a little more what I was looking for. I wasn't looking for actual release announcements ala Fox, but rather an idea of what to expect.

It appears that the three of the four non-3D titles I was considering buying this year had 2K DI, but I may consider holding off anyway. I'll think about it.

[raygendreau]

This is about as close as you are going to get to a review of the CZ950 for a while. (probably November 2015)

https://www.avforums.com/review/pana...d-review.11860

Also from Hinton regarding the 3D LUT in the CZ950:

"Once you start removing brightness/luminance the colours get darker (less saturated) and the triangle would actually start to reduce and the points twist if you were to measure the effect in 3D real time as you reduced them. The LUTs make sure that when this happens the colours are hitting the correct points as luminance is removed. This requires a lot of processing power and Panasonic are the first to make sure this is implemented correctly (and to market the fact).

https://www.avforums.com/threads/pan...#post-22559157

If the CZ950 lives up to the marketing promises and the content creators give us those deep blacks and highlights that Sowa says they will; and if OLED prices approach price parity with LCDs as Panasonic predicts will happen in two to three years, will there be anyone on this forum who dares to profess themselves a videophile not have a 4K OLED in their signature, say by 2018?

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Alan Gordon

Park Circus' doesn't list anything newer than 2013 and I couldn't find any list on Hollywood Classics.

Click here for a PDF list file.

Have you looked at any of the UHD stuff on YouTube? Some of it is quite amazing. The Sony PXWZ100 can produce pictures that are quite striking. I am use to HD cameras that had viewfinders that cost way more than the PXW camera system. I capture the YouTube videos on a portable HDD then play them back with a Sony FMP-X10 and VW600 projector.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

If the CZ950 lives up to the marketing promises and the content creators give us those deep blacks and highlights that Sowa says they will; and if OLED prices approach price parity with LCDs as Panasonic predicts will happen in two to three years, will there be anyone on this forum who dares to profess themselves a videophile not have a 4K OLED in their signature, say by 2018?

Most likely not unless they are at least 133" scope size and cost less than 10K. Been a projector kind of guy since 1985. Trust me, size does matter .

[Alan Gordon]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Click here for a PDF list file.

Just the ones marked 4K are 4K, correct?

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Have you looked at any of the UHD stuff on YouTube?

I've only seen 4K at Walmart and Sam's Club, so probably not.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Alan Gordon

Just the ones marked 4K are 4K, correct?

Correct. I made a list from that list but have not updated it since May, it follows:

BEN-HUR (4K)	4K	1959	Warner Bros.
BIG (4K)	4K	1988	Fox
BLUE MAX, THE (4K)	4K	1966	Fox
CALL OF THE WILD (4K)	4K	1935	Fox
DIE HARD 2 (4K)	4K	1990	Fox
DIE HARD (4K)	4K	1988	Fox
DOCTOR ZHIVAGO (2009 restoration) (4K)	4K	1965	Warner Bros.
EDWARD SCISSORHANDS (4K)	4K	1990	Fox
FLAMING STAR (4K)	4K	1960	Fox
GIGI (2008 restoration) (4K)	4K	1958	Warner Bros.
GONE WITH THE WIND (4K)	4K	1936	Warner Bros.
HELLO DOLLY! (4K)	4K	1969	Fox
HIGH ANXIETY (4K)	4K	1977	Fox
HOFFA (4K)	4K	1992	Fox
HOMBRE (4K)	4K	1967	Fox
HOME ALONE (4K)	4K	1990	Fox
JEWEL OF THE NILE (4K)	4K	1985	Fox
KING OF COMEDY, THE (4K)	4K	1983	Fox
LEOPARD, THE (IL GATTOPARDO) (4K)	4K	1963	Fox
LIEUTENANT WORE SKIRTS, THE (4K)	4K	1956	Fox
MAN HUNT (4K)	4K	1941	Fox
MRS. DOUBTFIRE (4K)	4K	1993	Fox
MY DARLING CLEMENTINE (4K)	4K	1946	Fox
NIGHT AND THE CITY (4K)	4K	1950	Fox
NORME RAE (4K)	4K	1979	Fox
NORTH BY NORTHWEST (2009 restoration) (4K)	4K	1959	Warner Bros.
NORTH TO ALASKA (4K)	4K	1960	Fox
OKLAHOMA!  (4K)	4K	1955	Fox
PAGEMASTER (4K)	4K	1994	Fox
PRIME OF MISS JEAN BRODIE (4K)	4K	1969	Fox
ROMANCING THE STONE (4K)	4K	1984	Fox
SAY ANYTHING (4K)	4K	1989	Fox
SOUND OF MUSIC, THE (2K& 4K)	4K	1965	Fox
STORMY WEATHER (4K)	4K	1943	Fox
THE BOSTON STANGLER (4K)	4K	1968	Fox
THIEVES HIGHWAY (4K)	4K	1949	Fox
THIN RED LINE, THE (4k)	4K	1998	Fox
TWO FOR THE ROAD (4K)	4K	1967	Fox
WALL STREET (4K)	4K	1987	Fox
WAR OF THE ROSES (4K)	4K	1989	Fox
WIZARD OF OZ, THE - 2D (4K)	4K	1939	Warner Bros.
X-MEN (4K)	4K	2000	Fox
X-MEN 2 (4K)	4K	2003	Fox
JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH (4k)	4k	1959	Fox
YOUNG LIONS, THE (4k)	4k	1958	Fox

[saprano]

Originally Posted by Esox50

For that matter, what is the status of all of the major studios? While I'm with you that Fox has announced and seems rather bullish, I would assume Sony Pictures is in too, though we have yet to hear anything. What about Paramount, Universal, Warner Bros, and Disney?!?!? Seems we haven't heard a peep...

As i already predicted, we aren't going to get any complete 4KBD info until CES.

[Alan Gordon]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Correct.

That's what I thought. There was a great deal of titles missing from that list, but there was also some newer ones as well... like "Batman" (1966) from Fox.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

If the CZ950 lives up to the marketing promises and the content creators give us those deep blacks and highlights that Sowa says they will; and if OLED prices approach price parity with LCDs as Panasonic predicts will happen in two to three years, will there be anyone on this forum who dares to profess themselves a videophile not have a 4K OLED in their signature, say by 2018?

Now that LG might actually have some competition, an OLED may well be on the shopping list. I've got nothing against the tech whatsoever but LG's processing has never, ever been as good as your Panasonics and your Sony's, and I'm so glad one of them two has entered the OLED fray.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

This is about as close as you are going to get to a review of the CZ950 for a while. (probably November 2015)

https://www.avforums.com/review/pana...d-review.11860

Also from Hinton regarding the 3D LUT in the CZ950:

"Once you start removing brightness/luminance the colours get darker (less saturated) and the triangle would actually start to reduce and the points twist if you were to measure the effect in 3D real time as you reduced them. The LUTs make sure that when this happens the colours are hitting the correct points as luminance is removed. This requires a lot of processing power and Panasonic are the first to make sure this is implemented correctly (and to market the fact).

https://www.avforums.com/threads/pan...#post-22559157

If the CZ950 lives up to the marketing promises and the content creators give us those deep blacks and highlights that Sowa says they will; and if OLED prices approach price parity with LCDs as Panasonic predicts will happen in two to three years, will there be anyone on this forum who dares to profess themselves a videophile not have a 4K OLED in their signature, say by 2018?

I'd say is a guaranteed fact Panasonics OLED will be the best.

Because OLED is a self-illuminating technology very similar to how plasma works, they wanted to point out that issues such as the shift from absolute black to just above black is something they have managed to achieve where others can’t. The knowledge built up from the many years of perfecting plasma image quality translates extremely well to the similar way that an OLED image is driven.

Absolute black' is important, but having the correct 'just above black' gradation to the image adds more depth and presents the image as it was intended to be seen, not crushed at the low end

The LG OLED is not so good at this. Even the 7 year old kuro is superior to the LG. Uniformity is another one. Good that Panasonic is solving all those issues the LG has.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Alan Gordon

I was confused by the question until I noticed the address of one of the links provided and was greeted by the weather radar from the neighboring market's ABC affiliate. Cloudy, but no lightning strikes so far...

Well, it might have helped too if I’d spelled the word properly in the first place.

Originally Posted by Alan Gordon

I've been around... I just don't post much.

Good to hear , whenever I don’t see some of the more original membership, I fear the worst, not disinterest with the hobby but….poor health, catastrophic accident, etc.

Anyway, I’m off to the land that has much water than SoCal. You guys keep the thread warm.

[avecha]

Hey, there is always that adult film "Creeper" which is being released as UHD, 4K.
(Shudders)

[Penton-Man]

That’s ^ it? Geez guys, if this is your idea of keeping it ‘warm’, I’d hate to see what you consider frigid. Although, I guess the upside for me is not much catch-up needed hereabouts in this thread.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

frigid

To that ^ end I suspect y’all will really enjoy the ultra Panavision road show Christmas release of Quentin’s upcoming western if you can get to a participating theater. Hollywood locals should have their Navi GPS eyes set on the Cinerama Dome to watch that cold country western movie.

[Penton-Man]

Oh well, relative lack of active audience posting participation on an over 1,000,000 viewership thread aside, prior to my Amsterdam sabbatical, speaking of ATEME’s




TITAN which I previewed a few pages back -

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Answer: the ‘Pro’ version of this - http://ateme.com/en/products/transcoders/

there’s news - http://www.displayplus.net/news/arti...ml?idxno=67598

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

And after today’s ^ event for locals there is the AbelCine HDR training event….
http://training.abelcine.com/event/h...5-los-angeles/

C'mon other camera manufacturers, keep up, as there's life beyond definition (high resolution)......

Finally, the RED folks have acknowledged the value of HDR (with something other than in camera HDRx) and stepped up to the HDR plate at IBC with HDR monitoring output in PQ (ST 2084) support available (with some but not all of their cameras) - http://www.broadcastingcable.com/new...ologies/144152

In the future, as we advance further and further with HDR implementation becoming the defacto imaging standard (as opposed to the historic (and truncated) display range known as ‘SDR’, which my buddy Mike still clings too ), practically speaking, one of the most relevant issues those thinking ahead (post production costs) will be concerned with is which camera….the REDS, the Sony F55/65, the Alexas? will provide the most noiseless image for colorists to work with in post because.....noise is unfriendly to HDR grading.