4K Movies Releases

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

While watching and suffering somewhat through the current broadcast quality [HD LDR (low dynamic range)] of the match, the value that future technology (HDR as an enhancement parameter to ‘vanilla’ 4K) holds….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ws#post8520754

Very true.

I was watching game 5 of the NBA finals and I was unable to see it on my Panasonic VT30 plasma downstairs for the first half, so I watched it on my 65" Toshiba projection SDTV. I use it primarily for watching my childhood cartoons on LD or DVD and my NES or SNES games. The game was broadcast on ABC and I used my digital tuner to get the OTA HDTV broadcast. This TV has pretty good color and black levels as it is a CRT, but I was shocked at how poor everything looked. There was very poor color gradiation (dynamic range) and shadow detail. Everything looked gold tinted, from the skin of the players to the reflective wood court. The blacks on the players' uniforms were inky, but crushed. The shadow detail was so bad that I could not make out the crowd.

When I got downstairs and watched the remainder of the match, I was blown away at how much better everything looked. With HDR and a OLED set, a 4K sports broadcast may make the current HDTV standards look like what I saw when watching the basketball game on my SDTV.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by singhcr

I appreciate that. When I first saw that people were posting stuff about the games, I did as the father did in the Hyundai ad- I covered my eyes and started making noises so I didn't see anything.

"I'm recording."

sing, have you watched the U.S.A. match yet?

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

sing, have you watched the U.S.A. match yet?

Yep. As soon as I got home, I watched the Germany-Portugal match and then the US-Ghana match back to back in one lovely Group G marathon. Overall, it was an enjoyable match regardless of who you are rooting for or even if you are not a supporter of either team.

If you have seen the game, my thoughts are below.

[Show spoiler]Dempsey's goal was quite stellar- it was one of the best goals I've seen so far save for the diving header in the Netherlands-Spain game. I thought they did fall apart a bit over the middle half of the game, but they (the USA) was resilent even when they were scored on. I really hope Altidore is OK, and Dempsey isn't too banged up. The ball movement wasn't good for most of the game, but if they clean that up they have a good chance of advancing if they can tie against Portugal. The 4-0 spanking Germany gave them will help out the US in the goal differential column. I am assuming they will lose against Germany, but you never know what will happen.

I am eagerly watching the clock to see when I can go home to watch the Brazil-Mexico game.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by detroit1

Excellent chart you put up; you should post that all over the internet
most people have no idea about bitrates; they assume higher is better but in reality once you hit a certain point, it means nothing to go higher and higher
I have videos at super low bit rates that are better quality than ones at higher rates; once you hit a certain quality point, going higher does nothing except make the file bigger

Furthermore, while HFR would definitely improve motion portrayal, it doubles the raw data rate. However, for delivery, such mechanisms as temporal scalability tools available in HEVC aid in reducing the required bitrate for that parameter. As Richard mentioned on the last page, preliminary testing indicates that an additional 20% or less bitrate overhead would be required for 60fps -> 120fps.

The jury is still out on the HDR bitrate overhead needs, since it is such a new parameter (which solution/method to implement, etc.) but its value for contrast gradation is invaluable.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by singhcr

Yep. As soon as I got home, I watched the Germany-Portugal match and then the US-Ghana match back to back in one lovely Group G marathon. Overall, it was an enjoyable match regardless of who you are rooting for or even if you are not a supporter of either team.

I am eagerly watching the clock to see when I can go home to watch the Brazil-Mexico game.

It certainly has been a great World Cup so far. Goals and more goals. Exciting play, etc.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I will not un-spoiler-ize the above for at least another 24 hrs.,

Well, almost 24 hr. sorry, as I’ve got a meeting to attend at 11:15.
Un-spoiler-ized post #3558 on the last page starting with the words “for the sake of those….”

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by detroit1

Excellent chart you put up...

Received a PM inquiring as to exactly how the perceived video quality (ranging from bad to excellent scale (vertical axis) was determined by the test viewers.
Answer – the SAMVIQ Method (see p. 5 of Rec. ITU-R BT. 1778 - http://webs.uvigo.es/servicios/bibli...1-I!!PDF-E.pdf

Mechanically, it was a continuous grading scale from 0-100 using the quality terms bad, poor, fair, and excellent to which the observer would use a computer mouse to grade the images accordingly on an adjacent desktop computer with the software installed. It was paperless.

To other folks that have PMed me, sorry for the abbreviated personal responses today but I’m rushed....

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by tob

ok no worries.

http://www.whathifi.com/news/catch-t...d-4k-with-sony

Commercial Break by Simply Electricals in Lancashire

Sony KD55X9005B / KD65X9005B 4K UHD World Cup 2014 Footage Manchester / Lancashire - YouTube

Note to World Cup aficionados…Opinion Piece on the past Brazil vs. Mexico match...
It was apparent from the get-go that Mexico came out at the beginning of that match with the clear intention to be aggressive at all costs (late…very late tackles)….but there IS a difference between being ‘clean’ and aggressive, rather than ‘dirty’ and aggressive; for example the hustle and ‘clean’ physicality shown by the Chileans in the Chile vs. Spain match yesterday constantly disrupted Spain’s passing game, which arguably has been superior to that of Brazil’s…at least in past recent months/years.

The referee of the Brazil vs. Mexico match does not deserve to ref another World Cup match. Luckily, nobody got injured before he came to his senses in the 2nd half and started issuing yellow cards.

On the other hand, fine refereeing by the American ref in last night’s Chile v. Spain. That’s how it’s done!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I’m a big advocate of SMPTE...

Paper on HFR by Salmon et al. is well worth a few bucks if one is not a current SMPTE member having journal access privileges -
http://journal.smpte.org/content/123/4/50.full.pdf+html

With sports, think less motion blur at HFR.

[eriaur]

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[Penton-Man]

I like this headline at least….”World Cup in motion: how football in 4K will change the way we watch TV”
http://www.techradar.com/news/televi...tch-tv-1253550

To all those applicably saddened supporters of their national teams that are now playing *academically to finish out* the World Cup tournament in Brazil, well, with hope, there is always….

a better tomorrow.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by eriaur

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Not to worry eriaur, as I for one, don’t mind much of anything off topic as long as it’s accurate, informative and pleasantly sociable for it maintains the rhythm of the thread and I believe that it’s certainly better than on topic inaccurate time-wasting nonsense posted all over the internet on a daily basis….unless, of course one is into repetitive back-and-forth forum debating as a side pastime

but,

if any 4K purists out there insist and feel deprived this afternoon, there’s always some 4K news available to contribute, e.g. 4K restoration planned in 2015 for the classic A Better Tomorrow (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092263/ )

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

but,

if any 4K purists out there insist and feel deprived this afternoon, there’s always some 4K news available to contribute, e.g. 4K restoration planned in 2015 for the classic A Better Tomorrow (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092263/ )

This is one of my favorite movies and is only available on DVD or as a crappy upsampled BD with a poorly done 5.1 mix. The only classic John Woo film that has a legit release to date is the Japanese release of Hard Boiled.

This news made my day!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by singhcr

This is one of my favorite movies and is only available on DVD or as a crappy upsampled BD with a poorly done 5.1 mix. The only classic John Woo film that has a legit release to date is the Japanese release of Hard Boiled.

This news made my day!

Actually, the Shanghai International Film Festival announced it ( http://www.siff.com/InformationEn/Vi...1-64daa04d1395 ) a little earlier than I posted it and I had been saving the news for later as a tagline tie-in to console the

[Show spoiler]USA Men’s soccer team supporters eventually for when we get kicked out of the tournament in due course but, I felt some sorrow and urgency to perk up the Spanish fans, whose team has already been eliminated, i.e. 'a better tomorrow'.

Anyway, also notice (for those having interest) from the announcement that Two Stage Sisters will be screened at that festival and has already been restored in 4K

Restoration process of the Chinese drama «Two Stage Sisters» - YouTube

P.S.
Did you see the wolf at the end of Fargo?

[singhcr]

I am not sure if this was reported before, but it looks like Netflix is now streaming Breaking Bad in 4K.

http://www.techradar.com/news/video/...t-push-1253585

However, the last paragraph gives me pause:

Decoding

Netflix's Joris Evers confirmed the roll out with a tweet claiming the streams are accessible 'wherever Netflix is available.'

However, to access the content users must have a 4K display capable of decoding the H.265 HEVC 4K video, which is a standard on most 2014 Ultra HD sets but on few before that.

Users will also need an internet connection of around 15Mbps if they wish to enjoy the 4K stream without buffering.

Do current 4K TVs have H.265 decoding? I thought this wasn't implemented yet. Or is it there but limited in refresh rate and color space by the HDMI 1.4 interface?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by victoire

Oh, oui, je sais, merci de fournir les informations, je vais aller voir, je vous remercie. . .

Well, I think I did get a little carried away with my sentiments recently here - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ch#post9255952
But anyway, more in the French 4K DCP vein, this movie also received a 4K finish...Il était une forêt (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2873250/)

[PeterTHX]

I like this headline at least….”World Cup in motion: how football in 4K will change the way we watch TV”

By being so dull it will make us want to shut off our TVs?


Football (soccer: the sport for those too weak of heart to watch paint dry.

To all those applicably saddened supporters of their national teams that are now playing *academically to finish out* the World Cup tournament in Brazil, well, with hope, there is always….a better tomorrow.

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

P.S.
Did you see the wolf at the end of Fargo?

Unfortunately my DVR's hard drive crashed on me a few days after I initially said I was going to watch the series, so I lost all of my Fargo episodes. I have not had a chance to watch the show yet.

I love that IT crowd bit.

"You can make fun of me all you like, but don't ever insult my beloved West Ham!"

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I like this headline at least….”World Cup in motion: how football in 4K will change the way we watch TV”
http://www.techradar.com/news/televi...tch-tv-1253550

To all those applicably saddened supporters of their national teams that are now playing *academically to finish out* the World Cup tournament in Brazil, well, with hope, there is always….

a better tomorrow.

Not even a load of Chinese fellas shooting each other in a variety of graceful and balletic ways can cheer me up after England's utterly dismal campaign, it being one of our worst EVER World Cup performances - and all that after only two games. Just when we English think that we've seen it all and that it can't get any worse, we manage to plumb the depths of despair deeper than ever before (see also our cricketers' abject capitulation in Australia last winter). It's a remarkable talent of ours!

[eriaur]

Only three european teams left that can go far in the tournament, France, Holland and Germany.

Palme d'Or winner 'Winter Sleep' with 9,5 on http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2758880/ 4K DCP.
(Shooting Format: 4K Sony F65) Countries of production Turkey - France - Germany.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1nQbYtTPQg