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Old 01-14-2016, 01:54 PM   #6641
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Looks like you'll be paying for the extra resolution; over $40 for a new title but less for a catalogue title

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1364...cost-hint-ouch
the article is comparing the MSRP for the UHD bluray to the current retail price for the regular blurays.

MSRP on The Last Witch Hunter and Sicario both are $39.99, just $3 less than the UHD versions.
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Old 01-14-2016, 01:58 PM   #6642
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She's clearly looking for a story and clicks. When's the last time MSRP was the actual price?

Eh.
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Old 01-14-2016, 06:31 PM   #6643
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A few thousand. Nowhere near double digits. Doesn't matter, these were made to last. Picture is still ripe.
Sap, I’ll tell you plasmas do drift (without one even realizing it (or how much) due to the adaptability of our human visual system) so a recalibration to get the most out of what you’ve got may be something to think about….of course, if you’re willing to spend the $$. Just a thought . I can still appreciate why you love yours though. I enjoyed the organic look of my SXRD rear projection TV up until the very day it bit the dust.

Another nice thing about the upcoming 4K OLEDs (which, for that matter do/will also drift over time, but nowhere near as quickly as plasmas) is their greater off-axis viewing (compared to LCDs) which becomes especially important when mastering in HDR in that it allows a couple (or more) viewers to *comfortably* sit in front of the displays and still view an accurate extended dynamic range image further off from center.
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Old 01-14-2016, 06:35 PM   #6644
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Sicario
Sicario was in the top 2 of my favorite movies for 2015 and Roger Deakins supervised the grading of the traditional (SDR) Blu-ray master. I’m hoping that he becomes more vocally friendly to HDR as he becomes more knowledgeable and experienced about it, like other Directors and DPs have.

I’m wondering if Lionsgate will go on record and reveal who oversaw the HDR iteration (the 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray) of Sicario.
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Old 01-14-2016, 06:37 PM   #6645
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Sicario was in the top 2 of my favorite movies for 2015 and Roger Deakins supervised the grading of the traditional (SDR) Blu-ray master. I’m hoping that he becomes more vocally friendly to HDR as he becomes more knowledgeable and experienced about it, like other Directors and DPs have.

I’m wondering if Lionsgate will go on record and reveal who oversaw the HDR iteration (the 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray) of Sicario.
Your second guessing Deakins now? Oh dear
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Old 01-14-2016, 06:48 PM   #6646
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Your second guessing Deakins now? Oh dear
If he's a Luddite, why not?


Nobody's perfect. I didn't particularly care for Skyfall being bathed in teal & gold.
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Old 01-14-2016, 07:50 PM   #6647
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If he's a Luddite, why not?


Nobody's perfect. I didn't particularly care for Skyfall being bathed in teal & gold.
I forgot your 15 oscar nominations for pioneering digital photography and cinematography beat his nominations
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Old 01-14-2016, 08:40 PM   #6648
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I forgot your 15 oscar nominations for pioneering digital photography and cinematography beat his nominations

And filmmakers like Nolan & Tarantino reject digital filmmaking. Doesn't change the fact he's a Luddite on the HDR issue.
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Old 01-14-2016, 08:46 PM   #6649
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And filmmakers like Nolan & Tarantino reject digital filmmaking. Doesn't change the fact he's a Luddite on the HDR issue.
Nolan is not anyone to throw onto an argument with me.
A new technology does not mean it's automatically better then an old one.
Plus stating a preference does not make someone a Luddite.
I don't like electric cars in how silent they are and range, and yet have a 4k screen phone and more tech than most people
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Old 01-15-2016, 12:20 AM   #6650
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Your second guessing Deakins now? Oh dear
I’ll bold the operative words for you
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I’m hoping that he becomes more vocally friendly to HDR as he becomes more knowledgeable and experienced about it, like other Directors and DPs have.
Like, for instance, Chivo, who is no longer “living in the gap”…. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/beh...l-chivo-694015

With the exhibition of The Revenant http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/beh...e-dolby-851091

I try to confine myself to only “second guessing” billionaires and billion dollar projects and nailing it ….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...t#post11738833
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Old 01-15-2016, 12:36 AM   #6651
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I do sometimes feel like James W. Marshall when reading this section...
Yo Adrian, we did it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG_e...utu.be&t=5m28s

1½ million viewership mark achievement for this thread…..if memory serves, the last ½ million accumulated in less than 8 months. Not too shabby I think….given such a tiny handful of different contributors and inquirers.

Good job to those kind folks who made this 1½ million milestone come to fruition.
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Old 01-15-2016, 03:03 AM   #6652
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2 questions:
1-is upscaling 1080P to 4K a noticeable difference? Worth the investment, for that feature alone? I currently have an Epson 6500ub, 1080p.

2-not sure which projector I want for native 4K. JVC DLA-X750R or 550R. The only major difference I can tell between the two models is native contrast ratio. There's a $3,000 difference between them. Is the contrast ratio difference worth that much extra money? 120,000:1 native vs 40,000:1 native.

Any help would be immensely appreciated!

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Old 01-15-2016, 04:21 AM   #6653
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IMF 1.1 is going to be released in a few months and will support HDR, HFR (up to 120 fps), and WCG (the Rec. 2020 color space).
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Old 01-15-2016, 06:13 AM   #6654
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IMF, a competitor of ACES?
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Old 01-15-2016, 02:56 PM   #6655
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I know plasmas drift (all display tech do). It's not calibrated, i'm just using D-Nice settings.

I recently unlocked ISF day and night. Amazing picture modes, especially regarding shadow details, but way too bright. I prefer a less excited subdued picture.



Wondering if a calibrated HDR set will see those bright highlights toned down. It goes against the whole idea of it, but i think even if you reduce the light output you should still be able to see the difference in brightness range.
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Old 01-15-2016, 03:09 PM   #6656
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IMF, a competitor of ACES?
I could be wrong but isn't ACES more of a post-production pipeline to actually finish the film, whereas IMF is more about collating those finalised elements into an interop distribution format? It seems like it's more of a competitor for DCI rather than ACES.
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Old 01-15-2016, 07:17 PM   #6657
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I could be wrong but...
In a nutshell you are correct. For further reading and documentation, there’s an app for that - search Penton word ‘IMF’, for examples ….

The Blacklist 7/17/2015 https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...f#post11063098

The Masters in Sex 3/12/2015- https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...f#post10534491

Annie’s (of Disney) SMPTE spiel 4/12/2015 - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...f#post10710313

And finally, most recently (12/23/2015) – a good tool ….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...f#post11658725
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Old 01-15-2016, 07:23 PM   #6658
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IMF 1.1 is going to be released in a few months and will support HDR, HFR (up to 120 fps), and WCG (the Rec. 2020 color space).


b.t.w., that article provides a nice reminiscent look back to the pedigree of the ETC (Entertainment Technology Center) of USC, which, back in the day, waaay prior to the development of IMF, their Digital Cinema Lab served as the testing ground (with the aid of Christie CP2000 Digital Cinema Projectors, etc.) to hammer out the DCI specs of which members like MisterXDTV are so interested in…. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post10295245
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And filmmakers like Nolan & Tarantino reject digital filmmaking. Doesn't change the fact he's a Luddite on the HDR issue.
I'm sorry but this Luddism ascription is mere name-calling. Two thumbs down for the ad hom.
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I'm sorry but this Luddism ascription is mere name-calling. Two thumbs down for the ad hom.
Calling it as I see it.


10 years from now when *everything* is HDR graded, he's going to look pretty foolish.
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