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[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by saprano

No. But the majority is. You think PS4 is selling only to the hardcore gamer with that much sold? They reached far beyond that audience at this point.


Try getting them to spend a couple hundred dollars on another PS4. A system only 2 years old.

I own 3 ps4s .....

[JoeDeM]

Originally Posted by Jrod12

[Will star wars the force awakens be in 4k? ^_____^

If it does it will likely be end of year or early 2017. Disney is alway the last one to the party.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

I own 3 ps4s .....

I own 2 PS3's, one PS4 and thinking of buying a FF15 LE version this year. I wanted to buy the MGSV LE too. I'll purchase a PS4 slim with 4K bluray also.

Casual consumers don't do this. I highly doubt more power will change this stance. All it's going to do is confuse them:

Didn't the PS4 just come out?
Why is another one coming out already?
It's more powerful? But don't consoles last at least 5 years? Why do i have to buy another one so soon?
It's changing to every 3 years now? What? I Just spent $500 on a PS4 and games.
I don't have to upgrade? But that PS4 makes games look better.
How long will my console be supported?

I won't buy it either. Not supporting something that divides the market.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by saprano

I own 2 PS3's, one PS4 and thinking of buying a FF15 LE version this year. I wanted to buy the MGSV LE too. I'll purchase a PS4 slim with 4K bluray also.

Casual consumers don't do this. I highly doubt more power will change this stance. All it's going to do is confuse them:

Didn't the PS4 just come out?
Why is another one coming out already?
It's more powerful? But don't consoles last at least 5 years? Why do i have to buy another one so soon?
It's changing to every 3 years now? What? I Just spent $500 on a PS4 and games.


I won't buy it either. Not supporting something that divides the market.

It will be positioned like the Xbox elite consoles just more high value for more features

[Opips3]

I owns fatty PS2 backwards compatibility psx. PS4 is no brainer!!

[saprano]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

It will be positioned like the Xbox elite consoles just more high value for more features

XB1 elite has the same specs as all other XB1's.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by saprano

XB1 elite has the same specs as all other XB1's.

Positioned, not speced
And the elite had HDMI and 1080p output so had a different spec
Are you just taking every contairy stance you can find?

[saprano]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Positioned, not speced
Are you just taking every contairy stance you can find?

But it will be a different specification.

If Sony and MS go through with this they'll be effectively marketing a brand new console.

And the elite had HDMI and 1080p output so had a different spec

Eh. That's hardly changing the base hardware spec.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by saprano

But it will be a different specification.

If Sony and MS go through with this they'll be effectively marketing a brand new console.



Eh. That's hardly changing the base hardware spec.

It required people with a 1080p set to buy a new machine to get a new console.
Same with this is you want 4k.

And over clocked is not a new spec, and you are the one arguing spec and people are obsessed with FPS and this may help with that and help with the poor spec they had in the first place.
I was saying how they can sell it, and will you are just flipping to another point to win an arguement you are having on your own

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by ray0414

....though if you've never seen 100% true 4k that's uncompressed with high bitrate, you may not understand the difference because it can look pretty good.

Oh, I have and I’ve understood uncompressed for a long time….

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

good source material for testing for those having interest and the skills - http://www.dcimovies.com/2014_StEM_Access/

and written rather extensively I might add about how it’s been used in scientific testing and even contributing an illustrative pic from the testing….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ed#post9547368

[saprano]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

It required people with a 1080p set to buy a new machine to get a new console.
Same with this is you want 4k.

And over clocked is not a new spec, and you are the one arguing spec and people are obsessed with FPS and this may help with that and help with the poor spec they had in the first place.
I was saying how they can sell it, and will you are just flipping to another point to win an arguement you are having on your own

They can sell it how they want. The point is it won't be just be new features but new hardware. You can't compare this to an XB elite console.

I'm going by the rumors of a new powerful PS4. Don't known what you're going on about.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by ray0414

By the way, I'm not the only one that believes that 4k uhd disc beats 4k streaming [edited P-Man].....

I agree, if memory serves, listen to what a Fox Vice Pres said about it on the brightcove video clip during a conference…. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post11995419

[Penton-Man]

As to the current PS discussion, I did like this corporate adjustment….
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/0...entertainment/ , although, I must admit, I’d preferred if April 1st hadn’t been chosen as the date for beginning business for the new entity.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by saprano

But it will be a different specification.

If Sony and MS go through with this they'll be effectively marketing a brand new console.



Eh. That's hardly changing the base hardware spec.

Makes sense that the current console lifespan will be a few years shorter than the last. When the Xbox and PS3 came out it was fairly early in the HDTV era (at least in affordability to the masses). Then the XB1 and PS4 came out towards the end of the 1080p HDTV era and right when 4k TVs were coming out.

I don't think they'll introduce new consoles until they are ready to do UHD HDR gaming, but Sony might come out with the console option that includes UHD BD playback and 4k/HDR streaming (and perhaps downloads).

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I agree, if memory serves, listen to what a Fox Vice Pres said about it on the brightcove video clip during a conference…. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post11995419

Or, if that takes too long to listen to, quick take home message for the uninformed.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by bruceames.

Makes sense that the current console lifespan will be a few years shorter than the last. When the Xbox and PS3 came out it was fairly early in the HDTV era (at least in affordability to the masses). Then the XB1 and PS4 came out towards the end of the 1080p HDTV era and right when 4k TVs were coming out.

I don't think they'll introduce new consoles until they are ready to do UHD HDR gaming, but Sony might come out with the console option that includes UHD BD playback and 4k/HDR streaming (and perhaps downloads).

Last generation was an anomaly, 7 years won't happen again. 5 is the normal cycle.
Makes no sense for Sony to make a PS4.5 when they could just wait 2 more years and release the PS5 and take better advantage of the available GPU and memory advances.

A new model that plays 4K is no brainer this year.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by saprano

Last generation was an anomaly, 7 years won't happen again. 5 is the normal cycle.
Makes no sense for Sony to make a PS4.5 when they could just wait 2 more years and release the PS5 and take better advantage of the available GPU and memory advances.

A new model that plays 4K is no brainer this year.

I can see a new 4k model this year if it's an optional model, as a higher priced upgrade option. But I don't think they're gonna say screw gamers we're raising the price on this year's exclusive model $50-100 so we can accommodate a 4K BD player in it.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by bruceames.

I can see a new 4k model this year if it's an optional model, as a higher priced upgrade option. But I don't think they're gonna say screw gamers we're raising the price on this year's exclusive model $50-100 so we can accommodate a 4K BD player in it.

BD drives aren't expensive anymore. They can lower the price of the current model and make the 4K version take it's place at $350. The highest it would be is $399. They can bundle a 4K movie with it to help adoption like they did bluray with PS3.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

As to the current PS discussion, I did like this corporate adjustment….
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/0...entertainment/ , although, I must admit, I’d preferred if April 1st hadn’t been chosen as the date for beginning business for the new entity.

As long as game development and getting new IP's, especially Japanese games, stays spread out over the different regions they occupy i don't mind this move. PS became a worldwide brand because of this. I hope the main building being in the U.S. with one guy at the head of everything doesn't change this.

[Richard Paul]

I don't think that Microsoft/Sony would release a half generation game console but I think they are working on the next ones that will be released in 2 or 3 years.

At the recent game developers conference Microsoft talked about their plans for HDR. Microsoft will support two HDR encoding methods in Windows. 10-bit HDR with 10,000 nits of brightness and the Rec. 2020 color space. 16-bit HDR with 5.2 million nits of brightness and the sRGB color space. I am disappointed to see that Microsoft went with sRGB for 16-bit HDR but they made it a simple method to keep it cheap and it will likely get replaced in a few years. Also the 16-bit HDR method that Microsoft made has 1/80th the precision of the 16-bit HDR method used in the video industry (with Microsoft 1.0 is equal to 80 nits while with the video industry 1.0 is equal to 1 nit).