4K Blu-ray Confirmed, Coming in

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

This is not a pro HDR thread, this is a 4k bluray thread..........

One and the same with the Sony Ultra HD Blu-ray launch titles.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by singhcr

Good news, dear sir! Glad to see you back in the saddle.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Yup, admittedly very RARE birds but, a theatrical HDR grade results in an HDR home delivery grade, which will be accessible to many more consumer eyes ....in the comfort of their homes.

This is true but I'd wager there are FAR more SDR 4K sets out there at the moment than HDR ones...

[bailey1987]

Something here: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...300179886.html

DTS and Jargon Technologies Form Distribution Partnership For Ultra HD Blu-ray Production Tools

and

3rd i QC Announces Ultra HD Blu-ray Disc Verification at their Culver City Facility

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2015/11/prweb13083067.htm

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by jeff_rigby

Common File format is used by HTML5 <video> EME MSE, Vidipath and UHD Blu-ray digital bridge, it will be used by Ultraviolet.

The UV site has been saying that for YEARS!

From Jim Taylor:

CFF was originally intended to be a mandatory part of UltraViolet. Studios were required to encode all their content in CFF and Retailers were required to provide downloads in CFF. However, UltraViolet was launched in a "pre-CFF" phase, allowing retailers to stream and download using non-CFF technologies. Retailers were also required to support all DECE-approved DRMs so that download CFF files would work on any compliant Device. DECE later made CFF optional (see 1.3.1). Most UltraViolet retailers use their own proprietary formats instead of CFF.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

Something here:

One hopes this brings on a lot more 7.2.4 .

Found this interesting

3rd i QC’s new Ultra HD Blu-ray Disc evaluation rooms feature state-of-the-art equipment, including primary displays capable of Ultra HD resolution, HDR, and ECG, various Ultra HD Blu-ray Disc players, and audio receivers and speakers set up for full three-dimensional advanced audio format decoding. As with all their evaluation rooms, their new Ultra HD Blu-ray Disc rooms feature 3rd i QC’s proprietary audio metering technology for better accuracy.

Wonder if that is current various Ultra HD Blu-ray Disc players or future various Ultra HD Blu-ray Disc players.

[bailey1987]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

One hopes this brings on a lot more 7.2.4 .

7.2.4? does someone know something?

[dvdmike]

Can a second sub channel be encoded?

[Opips3]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Can a second sub channel be encoded?

That's right answer!

I'm sorry I made mistake. Hi-Fi AV/Receiver has a second sub. Blu-ray disc is only a sub channel be encode.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

There are only TEN Dolby Vision theaters worldwide that will be showing Star Wars?

And I have my tickets for one on Dec. 18th.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

7.2.4? does someone know something?

Ah, sorry. Should have been 7.1.4, I was thinking in terms of my 7.2.4* setup (no Atmos/DTS:X processor yet ).

*Two Subs

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Ah, sorry. Should have been 7.1.4, I was thinking in terms of my 7.2.4* setup (no Atmos/DTS:X processor yet ).

*Two Subs

I was gonna say! Lol

I need a second sub one day, need to use that output

[Opips3]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

I was gonna say! Lol

I need a second sub one day, need to use that output

you looking new a receiver amp pre-out to use that two output to two subwoofers.

[Swissangel4616]

Originally Posted by Adam_ME

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't going to eventually cave and get a 4K TV and Blu-ray player. But I don't see myself upgrading my entire collection. There are some titles where the difference simply won't be noticeable(at least on a 65-75" screen).

the biggest problem are the studios itself: as long they putting movies / tv series only on DVD or putting movies/tv series in poor quality (example: Knots Landing, Falcon Crest, the first BR release of My Fair Lady, the first BR Release of "Spartacus") onto DVD/BR no wonder no one want make a update for nothing.

As long studios dont restoring classic titles (any Clark Gable, Jean Harlow, Katherine Hepburn, Elizabeth Taylor etc movies) and putting them just on DVD-R devices why I should buy/make update for 4K player/TVs?

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Opips3

you looking new a receiver amp pre-out to use that two output to two subwoofers.

I have one, that's why I was saying I need to use the other output I have

[bailey1987]

If the new format adds a .2 channel then I will get one but if Ultra HD Blu-ray sticks with just .1 I can't see much point.

I'm still betting that the versions of Dolby ATMOS and DTS X that we know of now are just for standard Blu-ray, I wouldn't be disappointed or surprised if new versions were announced for Ultra HD Blu-ray.

I can see all Ultra HD Blu-ray discs being able to send 24-bit/192kHz sound to more than the stereo channels, correct me if I'm wrong but from my understanding the more channels you have reduces the sound to 16-bit/48Khz and so on. Current ATMOS can only send 16-bit/48Khz to the over head channels, so I can see Ultra HD Blu-ray being able to send 24-bit/192kHz to them and every other speaker. Lord knows they may even encode in 384kHz 32bit, that will really piss the deaf off.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

If the new format adds a .2 channel then I will get one but if Ultra HD Blu-ray sticks with just .1 I can't see much point.

I'm still betting that the versions of Dolby ATMOS and DTS X that we know of now are just for standard Blu-ray, I wouldn't be disappointed or surprised if new versions were announced for Ultra HD Blu-ray.

I can see all Ultra HD Blu-ray discs being able to send 24-bit/192kHz sound to more than the stereo channels, correct me if I'm wrong but from my understanding the more channels you have reduces the sound to 16-bit/48Khz and so on. Current ATMOS can only send 16-bit/48Khz to the over head channels, so I can see Ultra HD Blu-ray being able to send 24-bit/192kHz to them and every other speaker.

What new format?

[bailey1987]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

What new format?

I was referring to the sound on Ultra HD Blu-ray. for films. Face it music won't receive a boost, I mean why on earth would it? There's a slim chance that there will be a Ultra HD Blu-ray audio only disc as is with Blu-ray but what point would there be unless they went for 384kHz 32bit sound?

[jeff_rigby]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

The UV site has been saying that for YEARS! (Common file format supported by Vidipath, Digital bridge and HTML5 <video> )

From Jim Taylor:

The problem was that few STBs supported HTML5 <video> MSE EME as it's only just been finalized or close to it and every STB will then support it as every browser will. Vidipath platforms and Digital bridge require it. So they will support CFF for UV.

So to this point the UV DRM was in the APP and less secure, less reliable with hit and miss support for features that are coming. Everything was done server side to support play anywhere anytime.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

If the new format adds a .2 channel then I will get one but if Ultra HD Blu-ray sticks with just .1 I can't see much point.

I'm still betting that the versions of Dolby ATMOS and DTS X that we know of now are just for standard Blu-ray, I wouldn't be disappointed or surprised if new versions were announced for Ultra HD Blu-ray.

I can see all Ultra HD Blu-ray discs being able to send 24-bit/192kHz sound to more than the stereo channels, correct me if I'm wrong but from my understanding the more channels you have reduces the sound to 16-bit/48Khz and so on. Current ATMOS can only send 16-bit/48Khz to the over head channels, so I can see Ultra HD Blu-ray being able to send 24-bit/192kHz to them and every other speaker. Lord knows they may even encode in 384kHz 32bit, that will really piss the deaf off.

Where are you getting your information and why would you ignore a format because of it having one sub channel?? DTS: X can allow for dual subwoofer channels (though no one knows if they will utilize them in a home immersive mix).

An LFE channel tends to be mono anyway and you could always use a Y-splitter to dual subs if you must, though most A/V products these days have dual sub outs included.

The audio formats will stay the same as Blu-ray from all indications so far. Dolby TrueHD and DTS Master Audio lossless for channel based PCM compression and Dolby Atmos, DTS:X, and Auro3D 11.1 (no word on AuroMAX with ISONO objects) for immersive surround.

Dolby Atmos and DTS:X can allow for up to 24 bit/96 kHz resolution all around (there have been audiophile recordings made with these immersive formats that sound fabulous). Most modern movies, of course, are recorded at 24 bit/48 kHz.

Stereo and 5.1 channel-based audio can go up to 24 bit/192 kHz. 7.1 channel-based audio allows for 24 bit/96 kHz resolution. That's more than enough for music.