4K Blu-ray Confirmed, Coming in

[Geoff D]

That's three times in the last 24 hours that Freaky's stated much the same thing as myself in a subsequent post. I'm beginning to think there's an echo, either that or I'm on his ignore list!

[DanBa]

Scenarist Collaborates to Integrate Dolby Vision for Ultra HD Blu-ray Authoring
http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...ision-Ultra-HD

"Scenarist, LLC, the developer of Hollywood-standard Ultra HD Blu-ray Disc authoring systems based in Marin County, California today announced that it is collaborating with a global group of industry partners and UHDG focus group members to develop the workflows and tools for authoring of Dolby VisionTM enabled Ultra HD Blu-ray. The combined effort will establish a benchmark for the creation of commercial worldwide releases in the newly launched format that will feature the most exciting video quality that has ever been available to movie lovers in the living room.

“Scenarist’s breadth of experience and commitment to the professional authoring industry is reflective of their eminent ability to establish Dolby Vision workflows for Ultra HD Blu-ray,” said Curt Behlmer, SVP Content Solutions and Industry Relations, Dolby Laboratories. “Scenarist UHD has already been widely adopted as a commercial authoring tool for Ultra HD Blu-ray and we are excited to work with Scenarist to enable Dolby Vision title creation for their authoring facility customers worldwide.”

Dolby Vision for Ultra HD Blu-ray includes a 100% compatible HDR 10-bit video stream playable in all Ultra HD Blu-ray format players. An Ultra HD Blu-ray title with Dolby Vision, when played in a Dolby Vision enabled player and connected to a Dolby Vision enabled display, yields a 12-bit video quality image with an expanded dynamic range and remarkable color depth, along with dynamic metadata to ensure an accurate presentation of the creative intent approved by the film maker. Combined with Ultra HD Blu-ray’s massive data rate, Dolby Vision titles will deliver an unsurpassed home entertainment experience.

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[2themax]

http://www.mesalliance.org/2016/04/1...-dolby-vision/

Sony DADC New Media Solutions’ (NMS) 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Disc authoring tools have already been used for more than 45 discs released or in production, including several of the first 100 GB, triple layer discs set to be released.

Now, those using NMS’s authoring tools will soon have more to add to the new generation of physical disc: Dolby Vision, Dolby’s proprietary high-dynamic range (HDR) and wider color gamut solution. The addition of Dolby Vision in the authoring tool set will happen later this year.

[dvdmike]

To the studios that will support it

[Geoff D]

100GB discs! Yay!

[Opips3]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

100GB discs! Yay!

Which is studios company??

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Dolby Vision is 12 bit and has a higher HDR quality standard. You cannot make a display go past its intrinsic panel capabilities with a firmware update.

DV encoded discs must have an HDR10 base layer and non DV compatible displays and players will ignore the secondary data later and only read the HDR10 layer.

It's the same idea as the audio codecs included in the Blu-ray format already. The various data layers are embedded like Russian nesting dolls.

It's only higher quality if the display actually supports the higher quality standard. On a 600 nit 10 bit TV it won't look any better than HDR10. But yeah when the 12 bit TVs come out with higher dynamic range and an even wider gamut then Dolby will look superior. Won't be for a few years though, so until then they will look fairly similar, with Dolby looking better on the lower end HDR TVs (since the dynamic metadata, unlike the static HDR10 metadata, is accurately mapped to the capabilities of the display).

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by bruceames.

It's only higher quality if the display actually supports the higher quality standard. On a 600 nit 10 bit TV it won't look any better than HDR10. But yeah when the 12 bit TVs come out with higher dynamic range and an even wider gamut then Dolby will look superior. Won't be for a few years though, so until then they will look fairly similar, with Dolby looking better on the lower end HDR TVs (since the dynamic metadata, unlike the static HDR10 metadata, is accurately mapped to the capabilities of the display).

Part of it. But you don't author for today. You're authoring for discs over the life of the format. TV capabilities will only get better and better.


Hopefully the anti-DV luddites will someday realize that.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Part of it. But you don't author for today. You're authoring for discs over the life of the format. TV capabilities will only get better and better.

That's always been true. The same can be said for authoring. Really no such thing as 'future proofing' whether it's a display or content. You buy for today and hope for the best for tomorrow.

[dublinbluray108]

The first 10 minutes of reporting by BBC Click this week had covered 4K TV's with HDR. I had watched this on the BBC News Channel earlier today. It's reporter Dan Simmons was convinced that 4K TV's with HDR will be very successful in the future after he had a demonstration with one of the new at the Sony UK HQ in London.

He did mention 4K Blu-ray very briefly although he didn't show any UHD BD players.

He mentioned in his report however that the BBC is committed to bringing HDR content to viewers by 2017/18.

You can see it on the BBC News Channel or BBC iPlayer if you're a UK viewer or on BBC World News if you live outside of the UK.

If you can receive BBC World News in North America; you can see it at 8:30pm local time.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldnews/progr...set=%2B01%3A00

[Wiidesire]

Originally Posted by 2themax

Sony DADC New Media Solutions’ (NMS) 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Disc authoring tools have already been used for more than 45 discs released or in production, including several of the first 100 GB, triple layer discs set to be released.

Please let Deadpool be on a triple layer 100GB disc! Would be the first Dolby Atmos + TL 100GB release

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by Wiidesire

Please let Deadpool be on a triple layer 100GB disc! Would be the first Dolby Atmos + TL 100GB release

Not long enough. I'm guessing the 3 hour batman vs superman or the revenant

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by ray0414

Not long enough. I'm guessing the 3 hour batman vs superman or the revenant

There's also the almost three hour The Martian cut coming soon.

[Esox50]

I'm a big believer that where there is smoke there is fire. This slow launch of UHD Blu-ray, the lack of some studios (or slow release of titles from companies committed to Dolby Vision) , seemingly crippled TVs, lack of UHD Blu hardware, SoC coming available in July, Dolby Vision authoring tools, 100GB discs, etc. the list goes on and on.

...seems to me we'll get a little taste later this year...which IMHO makes it a dangerous time to be spending any significant chunk of change on a TV. I define that as anything over a few thousand dollars.

Can't wait to jump in later this year, or early next.

[2themax]

http://www.ateme.com/presse-releases...by_Technicolor

For HDR, TITAN can leverage SMPTE ST 2084 Perceptual Quantizer Electro-Optical Transfer Function and SMPTE ST 2086 color grading metadata, in addition to HEVC UHD and BT.2020 color space, and now SMPTE ST 2094 color volume transformation dynamic metadata.

[2themax]

http://www.ateme.com/presse-releases...h_Dolby_Vision

Encoded by TITAN in HEVC Main 10, the full Dolby Vision signal is compressed for distribution as a single layer non-backwards compatible stream, or a dual layer stream for uncompromised backward compatibility supporting today’s standard rec.709 TVs as well as the latest Dolby Vision and HDR-10 TVs.

[bailey1987]

Here's something: http://www.twice.com/news/blu-raydvd...xceed-50/61255

4K Blu-ray Attach Rates Exceed 50%

Attachment rate to 4K TVs is ‘unprecedented,’ retailer says

A “large majority” of people who buy a 4K Ultra HD TV at Los Angeles-based Video & Audio Center (VAC) are purchasing an Ultra HD Blu-ray player to go with it, spokesman Tom Campbell told TWICE.

“We didn’t expect this type of attachment,” he said of Samsung’s $399 4K Blu-ray player, available at VAC since Feb. 5 and demoed on the sales floor. “The attachment rate has been unprecedented. The consumer is hungry for uncompressed HDR content.”

The 4K Blu-ray version of “The Martian” “looked better than it did in the movie theater,” he added.

The four-store retailer also sells 4K discs to go with the players, pricing most discs at $24.99 for disc packages containing a 4K disc and a 1080p disc.

Campbell called player sales “beyond expectations.” Sales have also exceeded Samsung’s expectations, and the company last week said it is ramping up production so that it can meet demand in six to eight weeks.

VAC, the first retailer to launch 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray players, has also reported a synergistic effect on TV sales. The retailer is selling more 4K HDR TVs from Samsung, Sony and LG since it began carrying the Samsung player, he said.

For its part, Best Buy said this about attachment rates: “Customers have been excited to bring Samsung’s 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player home to pair with their 4K TVs, giving them the first chance to watch native 4K content from a disc”

The player is available at BestBuy.com and is in stock in an unspecified number of Best Buy stores, the retailer said.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

Here's something: http://www.twice.com/news/blu-raydvd...xceed-50/61255

4K Blu-ray Attach Rates Exceed 50%

Attachment rate to 4K TVs is ‘unprecedented,’ retailer says

Of course. With HDTV there was HD OTA/Cable/Satellite content available. With 4K/UHD, practically nothing except UHD-BD.

[bailey1987]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Of course. With HDTV there was HD OTA/Cable/Satellite content available. With 4K/UHD, practically nothing except UHD-BD.

interesting that you forget streaming when it pretty much dominated 4K in the early days, in fact they said it would kill the 4K blu ray.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

interesting that you forget streaming when it pretty much dominated 4K in the early days, in fact they said it would kill the 4K blu ray.

I did not forget streaming. How much available 4K streaming is there right now? Example: Vudu UHD has only a handful of titles, at $30 a pop, and it's only available on a few devices to boot. The only thing I have in my household that can play Vudu 4K right now is my Roku 4. Not even my Sony 4K smart TV has it available.


Netflix is almost in the same boat. Get this: I can get 4K on both my Roku and Sony, but I can only get 5.1 with the 4K on the Sony. Netflix on Roku is limited to stereo. Ridiculous!