"Club Penton" - Ask questions to Hollywood insider "Penton-Man"

[Penton-Man]

A Comanchero chasing cowboy who not only rode horses, but also with Checkers MC …

https://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-mo...ml#post4745348

[Blu-Ray Watcher]

Hey Penton, is ASM finished filming yet? It's been a LONG time. By the way, with the 3D, are you guys going to make the scenes maybe more bright than they usually are because of how the glasses make scenes darker? I read somewhere that James Cameron sent out different prints of Avatar with different brightness levels because of this.

[Dennis M]

Originally Posted by sharkshark

All these years later (man I feel old) this was one of the key reasons to still keep a "red" player around.
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Grand.../21007/#Review

FABULOUS to hear, from this review at least, that that fine release has been not only ported to Blu, but surpassed. Excellent news, now we can only pray that other stalwarts such as LEBOWSKI can find their way in versions that better the other HD version they're supplanting.

Looks like your prays have been answered.

https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=6462

[Dennis M]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Seriously, for filmmaking, I’m even more of a proponent of 4K than I am of 3D, because the resolution situation is of more imminent importance than the ‘establishment’ of 3D, since the longer 2K DI’s are routinely done for motion pictures shot on film, the more we lose, and I seriously doubt we will ever recover that captured resolution again, see –

https://forum.blu-ray.com/insider-di...ml#post2299058

Cinephile activists should be shouting – “Producers take note, if not for ourselves, do it (4K DI’s) for the sake of our cinephile children!”

Just curious Penton, of the films currently in production, what percentage of them are using 4K DI? And is the use of 4k DI trending upward?

Hope others jump on that soap box yours.

[Dennis M]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

A Comanchero chasing cowboy who not only rode horses, but also with Checkers MC …

https://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-mo...ml#post4745348

A classic.

Already have this one on order.

It's good to see the studios starting to release the older catalog pieces, and at this quality level. Shows the level of respect they have for their history. Especially considering that the of return, which is known to be low, and expense surrounding these titles.

[H9k_]

Originally Posted by Dennis M

Looks like your prays have been answered.

https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=6462

Great news.
This should really tie my collection together

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Watcher

Hey Penton, is ASM finished filming yet?

Principal photography has wrapped.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Watcher

By the way, with the 3D, are you guys going to make the scenes maybe more bright than they usually are because of how the glasses make scenes darker? I read somewhere that James Cameron sent out different prints of Avatar with different brightness levels because of this.

It will be color corrected at the brightness level according to the active supervision of the Director of Photography. Now, how accurately (from the 2K 3D DCP) it is ultimately projected at your particular local cinema, I can not predict for you, as it seems there is more of a variance with the quality (esp. brightness) of 3D theatrical presentations among different Cineplexes than there is for 2D content/presentations. I wouldn't worry about it though for the eventual Blu-ray rendition, esp. if you own an 3D LCD display.

Be forewarned, 3D or not, there are some naturally/intended dark scenes in ASM, if you don't like that sort of thing. A teaser reel has already been color corrected at Sony Colorworks and I can not tell you if it will be previewed at the upcoming Comic–Con in San Diego so, please don't ask.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Dennis M

Just curious Penton, of the films currently in production, what percentage of them are using 4K DI? And is the use of 4k DI trending upward?....

I’ m not sure of the exact percentage at this time as I really don’t follow that closely, since just for the L.A. area, there are several major post houses but in general , the vast majority of motion pictures still undergo 2K DIs.

The good thing is, 4k DI post production is definitely trending upward which is especially gratifying since as of only a couple years or so ago, I would say 90% (or more, like 95%) of all feature films underwent 2k post production workflow.

[sharkshark]

Originally Posted by Dennis M

Looks like your prays have been answered.

https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=6462

Sweet Jesus (the bowler, natch)

[KubrickFan]

Penton, I hope I'm not sidetracking or anything, but do you know why the Digital Bits topic is locked? It's not like it was full (there would have been a new one, I would think?) and there wasn't any argument I was aware of.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by KubrickFan

Penton, I hope I'm not sidetracking or anything, but do you know why the Digital Bits topic is locked?

Yes.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by sharkshark

Sweet Jesus (the bowler, natch)

I too am a BIG fan but…..I am a BIGGER fan of this flick -
https://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-mo...ml#post4759338

[Blu-Ray Watcher]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Principal photography has wrapped.

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

It will be color corrected at the brightness level according to the active supervision of the Director of Photography. Now, how accurately (from the 2K 3D DCP) it is ultimately projected at your particular local cinema, I can not predict for you, as it seems there is more of a variance with the quality (esp. brightness) of 3D theatrical presentations among different Cineplexes than there is for 2D content/presentations. I wouldn't worry about it though for the eventual Blu-ray rendition, esp. if you own an 3D LCD display.

Be forewarned, 3D or not, there are some naturally/intended dark scenes in ASM, if you don't like that sort of thing. A teaser reel has already been color corrected at Sony Colorworks and I can not tell you if it will be previewed at the upcoming Comic–Con in San Diego so, please don't ask.

Cool, thanks for the insight.

[PeterTHX]

Another black eye for Sony Theatrical and 3D?

http://www.boston.com/ae/movies/arti...ark/?page=full

[Deciazulado]

If the lens misuse allegations are true I see the fault falling on the theater company's projectionist "mismanagement".
Next to not checking the focus.

[42041]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Another black eye for Sony Theatrical and 3D?

http://www.boston.com/ae/movies/arti...ark/?page=full

I have also noticed this. When the Sony projectors were initially installed in one of the local theaters, they looked fine. But more recently, I thought they started using different bulbs or something, when I watched The Fighter it was so dim I wanted to walk out and get my money back.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

If the lens misuse allegations are true I see the fault falling on the theater company's projectionist "mismanagement".
Next to not checking the focus.

agree, I don't see it as a Sony nor 3D issue. This is why I don't like going to the movies and built my own HT, they are just not run professionaly and no one cares what the experience is like.


On the flip side, I don't get this.

the Sony 4K projectors show



for 3D and then


this image splits the image into two and focuses one on top of the other.

if they show a 4K image, then it would be messed up. Does the server show twice the same 2k image? or does it only put the image top centre or bottom centre?

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

If the lens misuse allegations are true I see the fault falling on the theater company's projectionist "mismanagement".
Next to not checking the focus.

According to the article Sony has not made the lenses easy to swap, unlike other solutions from other companies.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Another black eye for Sony Theatrical and 3D?

http://www.boston.com/ae/movies/arti...ark/?page=full

What was the ‘first’?

If this can be confirmed to be other than an anomalous situation(s), then perhaps an in-service or How To Do video is in order.
There will always be challenges presented to projectionists and their supervisors, unless I guess everything becomes 100% automated with a flick of a switch.

For example, a little talked about or recognized theatrical 3D exhibition problem is that in post production, the floating stereo window is set to avoid edge violations and it is not uncommon for some theaters to project the image incorrectly. The less quality conscious facilities crop or over-project into the fabric masking and remove the window the stereographers have so painstaking produced for theatrical audiences.