"Club Penton" - Ask questions to Hollywood insider "Penton-Man"

[PaulGo]

This is starting to become a "Dear Abby" thread!

[Esox50]

Originally Posted by richteer

My condolances. Fortunately my wife has a great sense of humour, so I can get away with stuff like this!

She saw your post and laughed. She does have a great sense of humor. Just not when it relates to her "business".

And yes, Dear Abby thread this is. Remember guys, silence is golden. You got two ears and one mouth. Listen twice as much as you talk.

Oh, and don't worry, I ain't on the couch tonight.

[FourToedStatue]

Hey PM

You told our favorite SuicideGirl that you'd check and see if Lost Seasons 1 and 2 would appear on bluray anytime soon. How'd that turn out?


Thanks

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by JackBauer24

Hey PM

You told our favorite SuicideGirl that you'd check and see if Lost Seasons 1 and 2 would appear on bluray anytime soon. How'd that turn out?

Thanks

About as well as her fulfilling her promise to forum members to post a photo shoot with the gifted official leather Blu-ray jacket.
Honestly, when it became apparent that we would not get the promised photo shoot, I Lost all interest in pursuing information on the matter.

So, any insights from me in that regard should be considered a ………..Lost cause.
Sorry.

[Penton-Man]

I got to keep those spiffy glasses …………….
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,1117535.story

But, I found out that they don’t work well in the Vegas sun.

[WickyWoo]

Silly Penton didn't read the bag. says right there "don't use as sunglasses"

[dialog_gvf]

Katzenberg showed a clip from next spring's "Monsters vs. Aliens," an action comedy whose voice cast includes Seth Rogen, Reese Witherspoon and Stephen Colbert. Starting with "Monsters," all of DreamWorks Animation's movies will be made in 3-D, he said.

Here's a big question: What does 3D theatrical do to home video sales if those are 2D?

If 3D catches on as a primary presentation (rather than a special one), then the home video is a step down from the theatrical. And that could cost a lot of home sales and/or cause a sudden demand for 3D in the home.

This is why talking about 3D extensions to BD now is important, rather than waiting until it is clear that people have wasted time not dealing with the issue.

Gary

[Nick Graham]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

About as well as her fulfilling her promise to forum members to post a photo shoot with the gifted official leather Blu-ray jacket.
Honestly, when it became apparent that we would not get the promised photo shoot, I Lost all interest in pursuing information on the matter.

So, any insights from me in that regard should be considered a ………..Lost cause.
Sorry.

Demand the jacket back, I says.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Here's a big question: What does 3D theatrical do to home video sales if those are 2D?.................

Gary

Well, the BIG picture is that Digital Projection aint goin to get more people into the theaters, whether it be 2K or 4K as the typical movie go-er, don’t know nor care about such esoteric technology, not to mention the fact that it will be quite awhile before 4K DCP’s become routine. For instance, despite all the hoopla on the Blade Runner restoration and scanning, the Digital Cinema Package that was distributed to all Digital Cinemas was still 2K.

What will hopefully get more people into the theaters, is 3D. To show 3D to your audience you need digital projection. That in itself will save studios mucho $$ and if
box office receipts do increase due to more people flocking to theaters for 3D, there will be a trickle down effect to the home entertainment divisions of each studio in regards to budgets. Most immediately, this could translate into more titles coming out on Blu-ray (in 2D) and more revenue for things like film archiving, new HD transfers, etc. Thee ole trickle down effect.

No matter how long it takes to get 3D into our homes, theatrical 3D shouldn’t be viewed as a competitor to home video (from an enthusiasts’ viewpoint) but rather a potential symbiotic relationship that could yield better stuff, and faster for the Blu-ray format.

[Penton-Man]

B.T.W Gary, here’s a good link to the Toronto area for you that a D.P. sent to me awhile back….
http://www.playbackonline.ca/index.html

I just love this job advertisement (esp. the “We’re looking for YOU if YOU part”) as linked from their homepage………
http://www.playbackonline.ca/careers/1842/

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Silly Penton didn't read the bag. says right there "don't use as sunglasses"

Who here actually reads instructions?

[JamesN]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

No matter how long it takes to get 3D into our homes, theatrical 3D shouldn’t be viewed as a competitor to home video (from an enthusiasts’ viewpoint) but rather a potential symbiotic relationship that could yield better stuff, and faster for the Blu-ray format.

In the 50's, 3D was Hollywood's attempt to lure people away from their new-fangled televisions and back into theaters. Do you see a possible parallel here with Hollywood now trying to lure people away from their home theaters?

[fitprod]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

What will hopefully get more people into the theaters, is 3D. To show 3D to your audience you need digital projection.

I noticed the Katzenberg was touting 3-D at ShoWest for Monsters vs. Aliens, and that 3-D is an opportunity to charge a premium, given the tremendous success of the Hanna Montana film.

Unfortunately, I believe using Hanna Montana as an example of the power of 3-D, is a poorly founded argument. Hanna was a unique instance of a cultural pop phenomenon maximizing it's potential. (In retrospect, I'm sure Disney wishes they had opened the concert film in more than 700 theaters...)

Now if he sighted the IMAX 3-D presentations of Beowulf or Disney's other 3-D efforts, he might have a better foundation to build on.

fitprod

[juanleche]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

About as well as her fulfilling her promise to forum members to post a photo shoot with the gifted official leather Blu-ray jacket.
Honestly, when it became apparent that we would not get the promised photo shoot, I Lost all interest in pursuing information on the matter.

So, any insights from me in that regard should be considered a ………..Lost cause.
Sorry.

[Objectivity]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Most immediately, this could translate into more titles coming out on Blu-ray (in 2D) and more revenue for things like film archiving, new HD transfers, etc. Thee ole trickle down effect.

Why can't the combined visual of the 3D image be included as a single video stream on Blu-Ray?

You would have a video track with the "blurry" version for those without glasses that would be 3D with glasses. The 2D version can be on a second disk. Or, the 3D can be sold as a special edition.

[TheRealBob]

Originally Posted by Objectivity

Why can't the combined visual of the 3D image be included as a single video stream on Blu-Ray?

You would have a video track with the "blurry" version for those without glasses that would be 3D with glasses. The 2D version can be on a second disk. Or, the 3D can be sold as a special edition.

I think you might be misunderstanding how this works.

Digital 3D works by showing one image for each eye. The images are projected with polarized light. It's polarized one way for the right-eye image and polarized the other way for the left-eye image. The glasses have lenses with polarization filters, each lens matching the polarization intended for that eye. This lets each eye just see the image intended for it, and the images are slightly different, which lets your brain perceive depth because that's how your normal depth perception works: Two slightly different images come into your two eyes because they are looking from a slightly different angle.

So while if you pull your glasses off you'll see a blurry image, that's because you're no longer separating the two images. If that combined blurry image was put on a Blu-ray, there would be no way to separate it back out into two distinct images.

What they'd need to do would be to include both images, not the combined image. Then we'd need a special TV (which does not currently exist) that could show polarized light to use the same glasses, or we'd have to have shutter glasses that would turn on and off as the images were alternatively shown, or something along those lines.

Note that to get the same effect it would have to show 144 frames per second, since that's what the theater does. The movie is at 24 fps, but each frame is shown in each 1/24 of a second slot three times, alternating between the two frames. That helps maintain the illusion that you're seeing both images at once.

[WickyWoo]

You also must have a 3D capable projector, and a high quality screen (higher silver content) to properly reflect the polarized light

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

About as well as her fulfilling her promise to forum members to post a photo shoot with the gifted official leather Blu-ray jacket.
Honestly, when it became apparent that we would not get the promised photo shoot, I Lost all interest in pursuing information on the matter.

So, any insights from me in that regard should be considered a ………..Lost cause.
Sorry.

That was a BIG disappointment, and all due to a

[OokieSpookie]

No offense but the whole dirty laundry thing and villainizing of board members is bad form and that includes all of the peanut gallery also.
PMs work great to resolve messes.

[sj001]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

About as well as her fulfilling her promise to forum members to post a photo shoot with the gifted official leather Blu-ray jacket.
Honestly, when it became apparent that we would not get the promised photo shoot, I Lost all interest in pursuing information on the matter.

So, any insights from me in that regard should be considered a ………..Lost cause.
Sorry.

Ah well, what a bummer man.