News: displays and their technologies

[unberechenbar]

Originally Posted by Waboman

QD cheaper than first thought. Sony throwing the cat amongst the pigeons.😆

[Show spoiler]https://youtube.com/watch?v=BQFpnZoq...ture=emb_title

Interesting that the prices are already seemingly out.

[lgans316]

If you can put up with the animated persona..

https://www.youtube.com/supported_br...tube.com/watch

[anthonymoody]

Originally Posted by Waboman

The LG 88” 8K was $30k. With the 97” you lose half the K’s but gain 9” (and who doesn’t like to gain an inch or two, except around your waist) so with some extrapolation and carrying the 1…. I’m guessing the 97” will be $19,999. Put it in the books.

I've speculated the same, elsewhere. I'm also guessing that the 77" and 88" 8k OLEDs drop to $15k and $25k, putting the 97" 4k smack dab in the middle at $20k. Love to be wrong as $20k is still a pretty large premium over the 100" Sony and 98" Samsung LEDs. I know they're not as good, but...

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Call me, ^ I'd like to relieve your anxiousness.

Soooooon.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by anthonymoody

I've speculated the same, elsewhere. I'm also guessing that the 77" and 88" 8k OLEDs drop to $15k and $25k, putting the 97" 4k smack dab in the middle at $20k. Love to be wrong as $20k is still a pretty large premium over the 100" Sony and 98" Samsung LEDs. I know they're not as good, but...

Soooooon.

Pics when you become an owner. I would guess it is a substantial upgrade over your current TV?

[Penton-Man]

Pics be it unboxed or boxed, for whichever display –



and we especially love dem big boxes, as once you remove the handlebars and such they can double as a facility to pre-ship one’s mountain bike -



to a distant riding/racing venue so it’s waiting at the hotel for you when you arrive there later on. Heck with a BIG box for a 97” TV you could likely take off the wheels and fit in your and your mate’s bike lengthwise.

P.S.
Just beware of dem bulls –

Bull Attacks Cyclists During California Gravel Race - YouTube

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by NeilZ

I used to be averse to OLED until I saw the A90J. Prior to that I was a solid fan of LCD’s (and plasma’s for 2k content), not even the pretty excellent Panasonic sets changed my mind. The A90J made me a believer in OLED, and is still the best tv on the market I’d say.

9 months later, zero regrets ditching my flagship lcd for the 83A90J. The tv is amazing and the technology is only getting better from what I hear.

My only regret is not having more time to watch TV. I've got a mere 500 hours on it since last June.

[unberechenbar]

Originally Posted by ray0414

9 months later, zero regrets ditching my flagship lcd for the 83A90J. The tv is amazing and the technology is only getting better from what I hear.

My only regret is not having more time to watch TV. I've got a mere 500 hours on it since last June.

What TV did you have before it?

[anthonymoody]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Pics when you become an owner. I would guess it is a substantial upgrade over your current TV?

Probably substantial. At least meaningful. I currently have a 4k FALD, the 88” Samsung 88KS9810. It was the top of the line in 2016, and I got it for a relative song on close out.

Obviously the blacks on the G2 will be much better, likely the dimming too. But the Samsung gets really bright. I have a 55” OLED in another room and the relative lack of brightness is obvious, separate from the size.

Challenge will be what to do with the 88” once a larger display is in the house. I could swap it into the spot where the 55” is but it’d be oversized for the location…

[I DO BLU]

Sony A95K QD OLED First Look, plus A90K, A80K and X90K, Z9K Mini LED TVs | Interview with Sony - YouTube

[puddy77]

First full review with actual tests:

Sony A95K QD-OLED TV review | Is it really that good? - YouTube

[Robert Zohn]

Love Caleb's A95K review! Mimics my findings when I spent time with the 65A95K at Sony's US HQ. A95K is coming very soon!

[Fendergopher]

Wondering what the reason is for the screen being very dark gray rather than actually black? Is it an anti-glare filter side effect? Sony's solution to near-black OLED issues? Or a byproduct of the new QD-OLED panel technology?

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by unberechenbar

What TV did you have before it?

Samsung 8290R. Also had Q9FN, and Ks9800. The A90J beats them all handily and not only matches the brightness but beats those tvs in brightness.

[Oniiz86]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Love Caleb's X95K review! Mimics my findings when I spent time with the 65A95K at Sony's US HQ. A95K is coming very soon!

Did Caleb also review the X95K too or only the A95K for now?

[Geoff D]

Gotta say, those early impressions of the A95K have stalled me buying an A80J. Wanted to try the latter as a stopgap as I think most of my fears/qualms about OLED have been allayed, or allayed by the Sony implementation anyway as I won't touch any LG TV with a barge pole, but now I'll hold on. I've got some money saved up and just as a £3300 spend on the ZD9 has lasted a full five years and provided premium performance throughout that period then 4 grand for the 65A95K doesn't look like a bad bet. Won't jump on it straightaway though, will obviously wait for reviews and more importantly see what actual user impressions are over the short to medium term.

[MechaGodzilla]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Gotta say, those early impressions of the A95K have stalled me buying an A80J. Wanted to try the latter as a stopgap as I think most of my fears/qualms about OLED have been allayed, or allayed by the Sony implementation anyway as I won't touch any LG TV with a barge pole, but now I'll hold on. I've got some money saved up and just as a £3300 spend on the ZD9 has lasted a full five years and provided premium performance throughout that period then 4 grand for the 65A95K doesn't look like a bad bet. Won't jump on it straightaway though, will obviously wait for reviews and more importantly see what actual user impressions are over the short to medium term.

Agreed, the A95K is very intriguing. I'm not fully sold on it yet though since it's still possible issues will present themselves once it's out there and gets into the hands of reviewers, owners, etc. It sounds a bit "too good to be true" the way it's being hyped right now.

A fun little thought experiment: Imagine that both Sony and Panasonic stopped selling TVs (to be fair, Panasonic are halfway there...), and then some time later your ZD9 broke down. Now you're in the market for a new TV, but Sony and Panasonic aren't options. Who do you go to next? You aren't fond of LG, and even less fond of Samsung, so the two Korean giants are out. Would you look to Philips or something at that point?

[Robert Zohn]

@Oniiz86, sorry for my typo, meant to say A95K.

To all others, I spent some time with the 65A95K at Sony's US HQ and it was next to the 65A90J and you can easily see the advantages of the overall and specular highlights having the benefits of the larger dynamic tonal range, which give the images more detail and a more natural dimensional look. Also color saturation and color volume were significantly improved on the A95K.

Low luminance areas of the picture were also more detailed.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

Agreed, the A95K is very intriguing. I'm not fully sold on it yet though since it's still possible issues will present themselves once it's out there and gets into the hands of reviewers, owners, etc. It sounds a bit "too good to be true" the way it's being hyped right now.

A fun little thought experiment: Imagine that both Sony and Panasonic stopped selling TVs (to be fair, Panasonic are halfway there...), and then some time later your ZD9 broke down. Now you're in the market for a new TV, but Sony and Panasonic aren't options. Who do you go to next? You aren't fond of LG, and even less fond of Samsung, so the two Korean giants are out. Would you look to Philips or something at that point?

That's why I said I'm not rushing in, I'm waiting to see what day to day real-world performance reveals rather than someone having it on a test bench for a day or two. But I think the panel is starting to fail on the ZD9, or something related to it, as a faint vertical band appeared on it a few months back. Nothing intrusive thus far, but noticeable off-axis so I've got to look to replacing it sooner rather than later.

Your experiment is not my idea of fun. Philips are even worse than the others. I'd seek out an older set from Sony or Pannysonic and just get on with it. I'm not a serial TV upgrader anyway like some of the people out there, it's just too much hassle which is why I like to get a premium model with enough quality to provide "reference" performance for years.

[MechaGodzilla]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

That's why I said I'm not rushing in, I'm waiting to see what day to day real-world performance reveals rather than someone having it on a test bench for a day or two. But I think the panel is starting to fail on the ZD9, or something related to it, as a faint vertical band appeared on it a few months back. Nothing intrusive thus far, but noticeable off-axis.

Your experiment is not my idea of fun. Philips are even worse than the others. I'd seek out an older set from Sony or Pannysonic and just get on with it. I'm not a serial TV upgrader anyway like some of the people out there, it's just too much hassle which is why I like to get a premium model with enough quality to provide "reference" performance for years.

My main concern is honestly screen uniformity. I'm praying for these QD-OLED panels to be nice and clean, at least better than LG Display's WRGB panels have been lately.

That's fair. I always refer to these little thought experiments as "fun", but that's mostly sarcasm. I wonder how much the prices would go up on those sets in such a scenario, though? I imagine they would become, like, these coveted collector items almost.

I understand and agree on wanting to get a really good TV and then use it for years. I don't know how some have the energy to do yearly upgrades, exchange each TV like 20 times until they either give up or get a unit to their satisfaction, etc.

[Waboman]

The fomo is strong with this one