"Club Penton" - Ask questions to Hollywood insider "Penton-Man"

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

Penton, give my regards to whomever at SPE gave the go ahead to Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist!

Quite a risky project, but what a movie. Also they need to start sending out Blu-rays instead of DVDs (I got the DVD in the post from SPE!). I would normally just go an pick one up, but they send them to me now...

Max, who is your current avatar? I NEED to know.

[Doctorossi]

Here's another Blu-ray format question:

Does the base spec. require enough frame-buffer to seamlessly cover any on-the-fly changes in the frame-rate flagging? In other words, if one were to transfer, say...

A SHOWSCAN PRINT OF BRAINSTORM

could they just transfer it as-is and apply appropriate frame-rate flagging or would the 24p portion of the film need to be converted so that the whole thing would run in 60p?

[wallendo]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

You know Oliver, one thing that I am constantly amazed about, is that your first language is German (I presume like Torsten, hanser, etc.)………and other members here who post on this forum whose first language is other than English (Grubert’s - Spanish?) and how well you guys write and express yourselves. ....

And they usually talk better English than us American natives.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by BluDomain

Some of you might be interested in this. Times are
stated on the links.

Live Chat with Schawn Belston, Twentieth Century Fox Restorationist,
Monday, 16 March 2009
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/chat...LIVE_Chat.html

AND

An Evening With Warner Home Video Live Chat
In Attendance:
George Feltenstein, SVP Catalog Marketing
Ronnee Sass, VP Publicity & Promotion
Janet Keller, Manager of Publicity
Monday, 23 March 2009
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/chat...ome_Video.html

Yeah, I saw that and I already linked it here with additional comments about George Feltenstein, whose basset hounds you have to compete with in voice volume while speaking to him.

Just to be clear George, as I know you’ve been reading this thread for something like two years now……..or so you’ve told me in the past – I do love the way the hounds express themselves and I wouldn’t have it any differently.
And for those who are unaware of who Schawn B. is, search my past posts for several references to his credentials and past work. I believe Oliver had the opportunity to meet him at Berlinale. In short, he’s a film restorer/preserver with a great passion for films which has extended for years.

Having them for a chat is a true feather in the cap for the administrators/membership of HTF. I hope that the questions posed to both of those industry professions are intelligent and that the answers are substantive as to information that people have not heard or read about already. Perhaps even a follow-up question would be in order.
Funniest thing about it, I’m told that when some guy posted the announcement about the chat on the *science forum*, it got buried into oblivion (as of 1:45 P.M. -3/10/09) after only one or two comments. Me thinks those AVS people are afraid of losing even more membership to yet another forum other than ours.

So, with my above promotion of both chats………attention HTF administrators,
I want my two dollars!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXIBjo8gWEE

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

Hey, Penton, from the post you referenced, it looks to me like you may know enough to answer my questions, so I'll give you a run...

See……………
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=7660

and replay the YouTube clip I posted 3 times.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by cjamescook

Sigh. I miss the Geek. The forums must have been a real time sink for him. You must be a real fanatic to keep it up this long, Penton.

He’s got a pic of himself with the throttle wide open at Laguna Seca Raceway (Doug Chandler's Motorcycle Racing School, I think?).
I’ll see if the file is small enough for me to post a pic on this thread to compensate doctorossi for the above.

[Doctorossi]

I wish all these forums could just co-operate. It's a pain in the butt dividing my time between several of them and trying to remember which ones I've asked certain questions on, etc.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

See……………
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=7660

and replay the YouTube clip I posted 3 times.

I watched the clip; it's just that it runs contrary to some answers you've supplied.

Which Penton to believe?

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I’ll see if the file is small enough for me to post a pic on this thread to compensate doctorossi for the above.

Aw, you're sweet! I actually have an old buddy who grew up with Chandler and told me some fun stories.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

Max, who is your current avatar? I NEED to know.

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

If you grew up as an outsider to populist culture this is the movie for you. Also it gives a really good insight into today's teenagers, I know this is pretty much how I was when I went out to London trying to find The Libertines at wherever they were playing...

I guess Max missed Squid's inquiry on who is the chick with all the eye makeup and the Mickey Mouse bra...

[Vincent Pereira]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

Penton, give my regards to whomever at SPE gave the go ahead to Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist!

Quite a risky project, but what a movie. Also they need to start sending out Blu-rays instead of DVDs (I got the DVD in the post from SPE!). I would normally just go an pick one up, but they send them to me now...

My best friend's ex-girlfriend wrote the screenplay to that film.

Vincent

[Anthony P]

I have not looked as much into seamless branching but was thinking of it as multiple parts or sniplets of the movie being put together to form a whole - why would that limit bitrate when you just substitute one part for another ? What you are describing sounds more like what I would expect to be a problem with mutliple angles that can be switched around when the movie plays.

easy,
Branching means going from one snippet to the other
seemless branching implies that you don't see the branch point. Let's say you are watching the movie, it has loaded the last bit in the buffer before the branch. One part should be right after, so no issues, but for the alternate it needs to seek it out and then start DLing the content and during that time the buffer empties, if the old info (pre branch) empties before enough of the new info gets into the buffer, it is no more seamless. so after the branch (be it the branch out or branch back into the main stream) you want to have min BW to make it easier to re-fill the buffer (and why, if it is a very short branch there can be the issue that you go for the jump without a full buffer)

think of it this way, in the early days of DVD some players had issues with DL disks because the buffer was not large enough.

and we should not forget that you also need to make sure the cut scenes match perfectly in every way (for example if we are talking of i you also need to make sure the fields are the same)

[Esox50]

Penton,

Don't get too excited about the stock market yet. :-)

-Esox

[DenonCI]

I made a killing on BRK.B today.

[Grubert]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

I wish all these forums could just co-operate. It's a pain in the butt dividing my time between several of them and trying to remember which ones I've asked certain questions on, etc.

I'm used to it. Back in the DVD days I read and posted actively on avsforum for technical stuff, and hometheaterforum and dvdtalk for general DVD/movie discussion. Plus a French forum, and a Spanish one.

HTF has always had very good studio connections. But their fake-neutrality position during the format war and later sheer lack of enthusiasm towards the best-quality delivery vehicle for hidef movies (trumpeting doom and gloom and going as far as pushing the emperor-with-no-clothes Toshiba XDE player) made me lose a lot of respect for them.

[Oliver K]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

easy,
Branching means going from one snippet to the other
seemless branching implies that you don't see the branch point. Let's say you are watching the movie, it has loaded the last bit in the buffer before the branch. One part should be right after, so no issues, but for the alternate it needs to seek it out and then start DLing the content and during that time the buffer empties, if the old info (pre branch) empties before enough of the new info gets into the buffer, it is no more seamless. so after the branch (be it the branch out or branch back into the main stream) you want to have min BW to make it easier to re-fill the buffer (and why, if it is a very short branch there can be the issue that you go for the jump without a full buffer)

think of it this way, in the early days of DVD some players had issues with DL disks because the buffer was not large enough.

and we should not forget that you also need to make sure the cut scenes match perfectly in every way (for example if we are talking of i you also need to make sure the fields are the same)

That answers my question. Seems that this should not create a bitrate problem for longer scenes.

[horseflesh]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

If you grew up as an outsider to populist culture this is the movie for you. Also it gives a really good insight into today's teenagers, I know this is pretty much how I was when I went out to London trying to find The Libertines at wherever they were playing...

Max, you're forgetting that you're a lot closer to being one of "today's teenagers" than most of us are

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

I guess Max missed Squid's inquiry on who is the chick with all the eye makeup and the Mickey Mouse bra...

Thanks. And thanks to Max as well.

Wouldnt that be a Minnie Mouse bra?

[Jeff Kleist]

Max, you're forgetting that you're a lot closer to being one of "today's teenagers" than most of us are

You know, people used to say to me "If you were that age, you'd like it like they do", and I say "no, because I thought the same things were stupid when I was 12 that I do at 31"

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

I wish all these forums could just co-operate. It's a pain in the butt dividing my time between several of them and trying to remember which ones I've asked certain questions on, etc.

I don’t recall ever seeing your name “doctorossi” on the *science* forum?