"Club Penton" - Ask questions to Hollywood insider "Penton-Man"

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by sharkshark

I'm sorry to answer for Penton, but I'm pretty damn sure the answer is "Zero".

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/06/24/...e-dark-knight/

So, pendantic maybe, but they re-rendered some scenes for Imax CGI res, but nothing was "shot" with an Imax camera...

That’s fine as all input is welcomed. Although, I question your contention that nothing was “shot with an IMAX camera” as I know that Michael Bay rented 3 IMAX cameras for the production. It would appear if indeed they weren’t utilized and just sat in his garage, then that was a total waste of money. I find that difficult to believe.

I just don’t have time to read your link as to its accuracy as I’m trying to get out of the office at a decent hour today.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Off the top of my head, I don’t know exactly how many minutes. I would have to ask. All I heard was that 2 action scenes were captured in IMAX……..probably already much to the chagrin of the ILM folks who had to do the rendering.

Meanwhile, give me a moment and I’ll find a link for you to an interview I’m aware of regarding the sound.

^
See……
http://www.prosoundnews.com/blog/22432

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

It is technically possible to have up to 32 subtitle streams, but if we double them up, then of course we will only have 16 languages.

Is that really a problem? I'm not sure I own a single disc with 16 subtitle languages on it!

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

The additional problem is that there is a significant cost to preparing dual streams and this is difficult to justify.

Now that, I would definitely give you a pass for. However, being as the difference between the two tracks would amount to a consistent measure of vertical shift and an additional menu option, it's hard for me to imagine where the expense would come in.

Thanks for addressing my question, anyway.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

probably already much to the chagrin of the ILM folks who had to do the rendering.

You mean the ILM folks who are (or were) the sister company to those paragons of presentation-quality envelope-pushing, THX?

First complaint about IMAX-production workload outta that bunch gets the stink-eye from me.

[sharkshark]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

That’s fine as all input is welcomed. Although, I question your contention that nothing was “shot with an IMAX camera” as I know that Michael Bay rented 3 IMAX cameras for the production. It would appear if indeed they weren’t utilized and just sat in his garage, then that was a total waste of money. I find that difficult to believe.

I just don’t have time to read your link as to its accuracy as I’m trying to get out of the office at a decent hour today.

Yeah, I had read (can't find it) that the rumours of him renting the camera were false...

While I =don't= think that it's beyong the pale for Senior Bay to engage in a "total waste of money", I certainly am likely wrong, and that if they had the cameras, they at the least used them for ILM's plates. Sorry to mislead.

Still haven't seen it, I -hated- the first one ("Oops, my bad...") with its pathetic attempt at "story" and "character" and a smeary mess of closeup shots of motion blur.

Despite that this is one of the more critically pilloried films in recent memory, I'm hoping that this is far more in line with man, many more gratuitous "robots kicking the crap out of each other" scenes, mixed with the occasional wide, establishing shots (!) that I wanted from the first.

Sorry if I mentioned it before, but for those that share my hatred of Pearl Harbour you still owe it to yourselves to check out the making of doc on the special edition DVD (Sadly, these -excellent- extras were dropped from the BD release).

The handicam shots of the epic battle, with vintage planes, explosions, and an army of men, women, and cameras is such a rediculous improvement on the final product that it's mindboggling. Seeing the 12 camera setup from the vantage point of an onlooker makes you stand in awe of this scale of production, and the visual impact of just standing back and watching pales those idiotic smash zooms to Cuba Gooding, the cloying and histrorically dubious story line, and general nonsense that Bay's blunder provides.

[sharkshark]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

You mean the ILM folks who are (or were) the sister company to those paragons of presentation-quality envelope-pushing, THX?

First complaint about IMAX-production workload outta that bunch gets the stink-eye from me.

...I first read this as you pissing on THX.

Took me a sec... your prose is thick and subtle today, sir.

[sharkshark]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

^
See……
http://www.prosoundnews.com/blog/22432

Great link... The sound guys always get shafted with the end-of-the-production run schedule crunch, good to give them a shout out.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0886399/

Seems to do some big films, don't he... I only knew him for LOTR and his oscar, he's all over PJ's making of stuff...

Oh, and back to BD for a minute, for those that don't have the Pixar shorts, you should really pick it up if only for "Lifted". One of the finest metaphors to what you want to do in frustration at any mixing board, to be sure.

[sharkshark]

oh, and Happy Canada Day, everybody...

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by sharkshark

...I first read this as you pissing on THX.

Took me a sec... your prose is thick and subtle today, sir.

Yeah... it's hard to use the word "paragon" on the internet in 2009 without looking sarcastic.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by sharkshark

oh, and Happy Canada Day, everybody...

It's my first Canada Day as a state-recognized citizen.



Oh, and... 500 pages, Penton! (And how much of that is my blather? Yeesh!)

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I’m not certain but, are you talking about this fine establishment ?
http://www.angelosandvincis.com/
With this history…….
http://www.angelosandvincis.com/history.html

Seems to me, that a few years back, they may not have been taking plastic but, they do now (except for Discover). The eatery is actually just a few turns of the crank from one of the premier new bike shops in the O.C......."Bannning's".

Right part of town, different joint though. I can't for the life of me remember the name.

[Eternal_Sunshine]

Originally Posted by sharkshark

OK, so we agreed on "some" rather than "few" or "none"?

Deal.

[sharkshark]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

It's my first Canada Day as a state-recognized citizen.

we let you in? How did you get citizenship, shtupping a local?

[Oliver K]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

^
See……
http://www.prosoundnews.com/blog/22432

Interesting even for somebody who is interested less in the sound aspect of moviemaking like me

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

Is that really a problem? I'm not sure I own a single disc with 16 subtitle languages on it!

We have big multi-national plans with the globalization of Blu-ray.

Rumor has it, that we’re even trying to get Blu-ray established with the indigenous tribes of the Amazon and New Guinea.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

We have big multi-national plans with the globalization of Blu-ray.

I'll start watching for the Flemish and Tagalog tracks.

[sharkshark]

...Warner is losing a bet if they don't include both Sindarin =and= Quenya subs on LOTR.

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Rumor has it, that we’re even trying to get Blu-ray established with the indigenous tribes of the Amazon and New Guinea.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

I'll start watching for the Flemish and Tagalog tracks.

Mahusay !

Meron ka pa bang itatanong ?
Or would you like to hear it in Chabacano, as that's easier for us, since it's closer to Spanish.

P.S.
And shark, since you are the other half of twittle de/ twittle dom, no, I did not Goggle some Tagalog online translator for the above national language as………
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNIjJjB4RPc

[Penton-Man]

Shark,
“Sorry Goose, but it's time to buzz a tower.”
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post16766515

Let me know what happens (i.e. tell me if there is any difference in how long accurate proprietary information typically lasts in *science* before ‘evaporating’ by deletion ) as I’m off to the land of Loonies and dem bears.