Which titles will hit 4K Blu-ray first?

[cheecheung]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Hurt nearly every bluray that used it

What titles had problems due to seamless branching? Also what were the problems? Did Taken Extended Cut have any problems?

[d514]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

People know that Life Of Pi will be the same upscale that Samsung have been giving away with their TV's right?

It will never be true 4k

I'm not sure if IMDb is a trust worthy source for which movie has a 4k master. I've seen Life of Pi from the Samsung UHD HDD and it looked better than the Blu-ray. And even 2.8k source material can be upscaled to 4k and real 4k CGI can be added. Not exactly true 4k but better than 2k.

Originally Posted by Brightstar

I heard he cut them up and made the SE'S Original Trilogy I don't care about the PT i just want the Original Unaltered trilogy in 4k which will never happen

The original negative for the first movie (Ep. 4) was said to be in bad condition when the SE was created. I don't know about the other two. George Lucas created a new negative in the best possible quality. Nothing digital added.

After that he scanned the scenes he wanted to change for the SE, added the new effects and printed those on 35mm. Those scenes were cut into the newly created negative.

I don't think anyone would be stupid enough not to preserve the unaltered parts which were cut out. Also there are IPs of the unaltered versions known to exists which should have enough details to benefit from 4k.

Add to that the rumors of a new 4k master created for the original unaltered trilogy which pop up from time to time. There will be an UHD BD release, I'm sure.

[ay221]

Is this really a 4K blu-ray that will play in the upcoming 4k players, or is this a trick? And what do we look for to know?


Aquarium 4K - Wonderful Green World Blu-ray

http://www.amazon.com/MAGIC-CORAL-RE...rds=4k+blu-ray

[jono3000]

Originally Posted by ay221

Is this really a 4K blu-ray that will play in the upcoming 4k players, or is this a trick? And what do we look for to know?


Aquarium 4K - Wonderful Green World Blu-ray

http://www.amazon.com/MAGIC-CORAL-RE...rds=4k+blu-ray

No its a normal 1080p Blu-ray, it was just filmed/Mastered in 4K. There are lots of titles like this.

Real 4K Blu-rays will have the UltraHD Blu-ray name and logo.

[wesslan]

If these mastered in 4k is any way to see what sony are thinking on 4k I'm gonna be dissapointed with only the theatrical cuts on many movies. Total recall and Angels and demons comes to mind. Sure there are really bad extended examples but some are very good.

And since there are no 3D in the 4k specs yet I hope we get the option to view the imax presentation like guardians of the galaxy and Tranformers 4 in real 4k 2D

[bailey1987]

T3 seems to think Sony's recently announced Supreme line will be launch titles

http://www.t3.com/news/sony-looks-to...u-ray-classics

[Geoff D]

That article is pure clickbait. I bet they'll love that you've posted it in a couple of threads.

[Adrian Wright]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

T3 seems to think Sony's recently announced Supreme line will be launch titles

http://www.t3.com/news/sony-looks-to...u-ray-classics

Thank you for the link Bailey, very interesting and certainly does make you wonder if these have been remastered with eventual UHD-BD iterations coming later (much later I would guess)

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

That article is pure clickbait. I bet they'll love that you've posted it in a couple of threads.

Too funny . I’m wondering if after a few emails are exchanged if this new Bram Stoker’s Dracula BD will get a Supremely Highly Recommended outside review, since with the last one….


Posted (by RAH) October 01 2007 - 04:40 PM
"Now that I've received a BD copy of Bram Stoker's Dracula, and have spent quality time with it, my immediate reaction is that finally I have a high definition (BD) version of a film that I've always enjoyed. This is somewhat tempered, however, by the public reaction which has been coming from any number of directions. And these reactions, commentaries and reviews have virtually all been wrong. Nothing that we're discussing here is opinion. Something either correctly brings a film to video, or it does not.

This is the first time that I've been totally happy with Dracula on video. My happiness is however, not the point. Sony's mastering staff is happy. Zoetrope's people are happy. And they should be. They have jointly worked to see that this release is as perfect as possible in recreating the look of the film as it was seen in it's original release, and that effort has been successful.

They have not accomplished this by some seat-of-the-pants, I've got a curtain in the attic, "Let's put on a show" ethic. Nor have they guessed. They've screened the original approved answer print and have meticulously matched the HD master to that print. This is done in the same way that one would restore a film. Earlier versions of FFC's Dracula were properly tuned for earlier video systems, that among other problems turned black into video noise. For that reason they were never what they should have been, as electronic goals needed to be met. To put it simply, the ability of the reproducing medium was not yet in tune with the art to be reproduced. They always came as closely as they could. And understanding the limitations of the medium, were approved.

There was no way around this. That is the reason why earlier video releases don't matter. One of the extraordinary points of the high definition medium is that finally we can reproduce films to look as they did on film. The new transfer of Dracula is a magnificent work, which along with the audio with it's heavy lows, delicate highs and aural details -- the sound of mice walking quickly across a beam -- is miraculous to behold on home video.

Dracula is a dark film. It has always been a dark film. It is also a film created not by digital pyrotechnics, but rather by analogue effects and cinematic slight of hand. This is an old fashioned horror film. Print it too bright and the magic is revealed; the horror disappears; the story vanishes, and one sees through the magic. The color in this release finally matches that of the original prints -- controlled, colorful when necessary -- but dark.

The blacks on this release work well, and shadow detail, when needed is at hand. Resolution is beautiful. Flesh tones, for both the living as well as the dead, replicate the original tones of the first 35mm prints. Dupe generations are less finely resolved, but work as they did originally. So here's the bottom line. Not only is there nothing wrong with this release, it is one of the most perfect to come from the Sony vaults. Those of you who know of me, are aware that Sony and I don't always agree. But when they do something correctly, they are to be honored for their efforts. And this time, they are to be honored.

Everything here is correct, handled with precision, professionalism and a obvious love for the art that is our cinema. Bram Stoker's Dracula, from FFC and Sony is Extremely Highly Recommended.

RAH"

I would assume Supremely is superior to "Extremely".

[Geoff D]

Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if this latest transfer deviates from the previous version.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if this latest transfer deviates from the previous version.

Some are thinking an upcoming innovative Supreme spin? ... given official past pronouncements by a Zoetrope ( https://www.zoetrope.com/zoe_films.cgi?page=history ) spokesman regarding thee original Blu-ray iteration years ago…..

“Zoetrope’s role in the new transfer was to make sure that the transfer colorist had access to a pristine original “final answer print” to screen and refer to. A final answer print is a vaulted 35mm film print in Sony’s possession that bears a signature from the original production indicating that the director or director of photography was satisfied with the color timing and that this print was to be the gold standard...the reference for all 35mm release prints to be compared with and accepted/rejected."

P.S.
Funniest comment I read on the web said something like *I will buy this new double-dipping studio Blu-ray (before I buy the triple-dipping UHD Blu-ray version when they sell that one) if they’ve restored the DVD colors and luminance similar to what I saw in the movie theater back in the day*.

[Kris Deering]

I saw this film in theaters when it was first released and loved it. I have a very good memory of a lot of things, but there is no way I could remember exactly how it looked then. Never mind that in those days print variation was so drastic that anything you did see in a commercial theater could be vastly different than what you saw at the theater right down the street, even if it was the same movie.

It will be interesting to see what difference (if any) the new video encode offers. Was the previous Blu-ray not struck from a 4K master? I'm more excited by the inclusion of an Atmos soundtrack, gives my Atmos capable system something new to play with and also shows that Sony will be supporting immersive soundtracks. Hope to see more of them from this line and their standard Blu-ray releases as well.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

Was the previous Blu-ray not struck from a 4K master?

Differences in scanning resolution shouldn't result in drastic changes in color or black levels (crush).

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Funniest comment I read on the web said something like *I will buy this new double-dipping studio Blu-ray (before I buy the triple-dipping UHD Blu-ray version when they sell that one) if they’ve restored the DVD colors and luminance similar to what I saw in the movie theater back in the day*.

However, today this may be the funniest comment yet I’ve read from a Top Reviewer and long term loyal Bram Stoker’s Dracula collector who apparently suffers from a form of post traumatic stress as after having viewed the ‘gold standard’ (mandated by the filmmaker to Blu-ray in 2007 as well as being the theatrical reference, e.g. “the reference for all 35mm release prints to be compared with and accepted/rejected”) because this Top Reviewer hasn’t been able to watch film for quite some time now due to the visual trauma of it all.....

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

...I'm more excited by the inclusion of an Atmos soundtrack, gives my Atmos capable system something new to play with...

Geez, I briefly skimmed the Bram Stoker’s Dracula thread in the Movie Section at the top of our forum and I hadn’t realized there was such interest in the quality of the cover art (or, in this case, consensus seems, lack thereof).

[Kris Deering]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Geez, I briefly skimmed the Bram Stoker’s Dracula thread in the Movie Section at the top of our forum and I hadn’t realized there was such interest in the quality of the cover art (or, in this case, consensus seems, lack thereof).

Different strokes for different folks. I like steelbooks that have nice art on them, but for standard releases I don't get too bent out of shape. I'm still trying to figure out why people like slipcases so much. It is the second thing that goes in the trash after I throw away the clear wrap that encased it.

[Bernardo A.]

Most of the films release last decade were finalized in 2K.

Do they intend to re-scan the negatives and re-render the visual effects?

It's the only way to see a lot of films in true 4K.

[m3racer123]

Originally Posted by Bernardo A.

Do they intend to re-scan the negatives and re-render the visual effects?

They wouldn't re-render the visual effects, just upscale them. Otherwise it would cost too much.

[Brightstar]

I dont care how much these new disks cost as long as they do a outstanding remaster on each one.

[sukraj]

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