HDR Discussion Thread - Page 168 - Blu-ray Forum

Staying Salty · 11-10-2017, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Staying Salty

Does this story sound familiar.

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Originally Posted by HeatEquation

Correct. That information came from speaking with Samsung and Microsoft Xbox support,

I guess now we know why you dodged and weaved for so long, before you finally admitted this.

HeatEquation · 11-10-2017, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Staying Salty

Your first link:

Does this story sound familiar.

Your second link:

So what do we have in common here. DeadPool2 via a conversation with Samsung and Xbox support.

So if you are also DeadPool2, congratulations, you are spreading a rumor as good as any on the internet.

I'm everyone on the internet!

Your username could not be more apt. I can taste the salt from miles away.

i_max2k2 · 11-10-2017, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 2themax

You seriously don't handle being wrong very well.

Where did you get this from?

Honestly he just keeps going in circles. I realized last night its not worth it.

zmarty · 11-10-2017, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyIII

Is this a show on Netflix in 60fps?

I believe so, yes. On supported devices.

RockyIII · 11-10-2017, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by zmarty

I believe so, yes. On supported devices.

So are you suggesting to play this short from YouTube of directly from Netflix to see what it's all about?
Also, will it play only in HDR10 or also in Dolby Vision when streaming from Dolby Vision-ready 4K LG Oled tv?

ronboster · 11-10-2017, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Staying Salty

I guess now we know why you dodged and weaved for so long, before you finally admitted this.

I think you'll appreciate this quote from the past:

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Originally Posted by HeatEquation

I don't think you'll have to worry about having to double dip. There will never be any DV discs. Nor are they needed if you've got a good TV.

HeatEquation · 11-10-2017, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ronboster

I think you'll appreciate this quote from the past:

I was basically right. 19 DV discs (with a ton of issues to boot) out of a total of 300+ UHD discs. Might as well be 0.

Haven't been wrong yet.

ronboster · 11-10-2017, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HeatEquation

Haven't been wrong yet.

You and the guy in the mirror are the only two that believe that statement. There's no shame in being wrong (think your "Arrival" review).

DaveyJonesRage · 11-10-2017, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HeatEquation

I was basically right. 19 DV discs (with a ton of issues to boot) out of a total of 300+ UHD discs. Might as well be 0.

Haven't been wrong yet.

Of course you haven't, not when your either outright lying or making stuff up. But hey, you heard it from your father's, brother's, nephew's, cousin's, former roommate; so that makes it fact. By all means carry on...

HeatEquation · 11-10-2017, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveyJonesRage

Of course you haven't, not when your either outright lying or making stuff up. But hey, you heard it from your father's, brother's, nephew's, cousin's, former roommate; so that makes it fact. By all means carry on...

I didn't have to hear that from anyone. It was common sense that DV would never take off on disc. Anyone with a brain could have seen that very clearly, and it turned out to be 100% correct.

Penton-Man · 11-10-2017, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by zmarty

It's finally up! The delay was due to YouTube having to manually reschedule the transcoding. I assume the problem was that the file is close to the maximum file size that YouTube allows

Real 4K HDR: Netflix Meridian (From new HDR master) - YouTube

For new readers to the forum or ICYMI and are unfamiliar with the short Meridian, in this post which pictured selected HDR sequences, graded by Netflix and then analyzed for its HDR by a working group involved in video compression, if you also check the hyperlink in the post (which I just fixed) - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...n#post13298760

you will get some production background info on the short film.

As an aside, for other events aimed toward providing additional reference footage to the industry, as well as in this case, producing images using a variety of cameras for the purpose of exploring the limits of HDR capture, I’ll add that last spring an HDR reference image shoot was performed at Sony Pictures on Stage 7 for the purpose of creating high quality reference images and video. The elements of the shoot included test charts, stained glass a suit of armor, models and various lighting set-ups available in Stage 7.

Cameras used included Sony and Fuji still cameras, a Sony F65, and an Arri Alexa. The time and contributions from many experts included ASC Cinematographer Robert Primes, Sony, Arri and other ASC members.

Penton-Man · 11-10-2017, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 2themax

the idea that I'm DV biased?

You’re a solid, unbiased guy in my book and I’d venture to say with the membership-at-large of this forum….at least those who have been here for years and have substantial experience with your contributions.

Penton-Man · 11-10-2017, 07:07 PM

Tip of the hat to Simon from BBC R&D, for which I think may represent his first

patent -
https://www.ipo.gov.uk/p-ipsum/Case/...mber/GB2549521

kurtlingle · 11-10-2017, 07:12 PM

Ok, I have not read all the pages here, but I've gone through quite a few.

I currently have a number of PS4's and PS3 (for blu) and both a 50" plasma and a projector (for the HT) - the BenQ w1070 (about 2 years old now).

So I don't have any 4k screens (yet). I'm hoping to one day get a 4k projector, but that's not on the radar yet.

Here is my question for anyone's opinion.
q1: Is there any value to just buying the UHD disks since most (or all) come with a blu-ray anyway? That way, in 2-3 years I don't have to rebuy them all (for instance, WW, Spidey, John Wick 2, etc).

q2: Is there any value for me to get a 4k player, but output to my current projector? It's the BenQ w1070. Would a 4k disk output as 1080p look identical to the blu-ray? Or could it be better or worse on 1080p output?

Not sure if anyone has asked this one, I literally read tons and tons of pages, but didn't see this topic.

grodd · 11-10-2017, 07:15 PM

How many suspensions is this now 3,.. 4?
I think he needs to go for good.
He's got a partial ban at AVSforum also.

Geoff D · 11-10-2017, 08:08 PM

Oh, thank **** for that. Having him AND RockyIII on this forum at the same time is just too much.

2themax · 11-10-2017, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

You’re a solid, unbiased guy in my book and I’d venture to say with the membership-at-large of this forum….at least those who have been here for years and have substantial experience with your contributions.

Thank you

zmarty · 11-10-2017, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyIII

So are you suggesting to play this short from YouTube of directly from Netflix to see what it's all about?
Also, will it play only in HDR10 or also in Dolby Vision when streaming from Dolby Vision-ready 4K LG Oled tv?

If you can get it at 60fps, I would say Netflix is still the way to go. It should play in Dolby Vision.

RockyIII · 11-10-2017, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by zmarty

If you can get it at 60fps, I would say Netflix is still the way to go. It should play in Dolby Vision.

It does!
Dolby Vision + 60fps = amazing picture!

Note: whoever said that 60fps doesn't look cinematic must watch this short film! The only negative was that it's only 11 mins long. This is what movies should look like in 2017 and beyond!

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Penton-Man · 11-11-2017, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 2themax

Thank you

I felt an intervention was needed.

11-10-2017, 07:07 PM	#3353
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since:Apr 2007	Tip of the hat to Simon from BBC R&D, for which I think may represent his first patent - https://www.ipo.gov.uk/p-ipsum/Case/...mber/GB2549521

11-10-2017, 07:12 PM	#3354
kurtlingle Expert Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:82	Ok, I have not read all the pages here, but I've gone through quite a few. I currently have a number of PS4's and PS3 (for blu) and both a 50" plasma and a projector (for the HT) - the BenQ w1070 (about 2 years old now). So I don't have any 4k screens (yet). I'm hoping to one day get a 4k projector, but that's not on the radar yet. Here is my question for anyone's opinion. q1: Is there any value to just buying the UHD disks since most (or all) come with a blu-ray anyway? That way, in 2-3 years I don't have to rebuy them all (for instance, WW, Spidey, John Wick 2, etc). q2: Is there any value for me to get a 4k player, but output to my current projector? It's the BenQ w1070. Would a 4k disk output as 1080p look identical to the blu-ray? Or could it be better or worse on 1080p output? Not sure if anyone has asked this one, I literally read tons and tons of pages, but didn't see this topic.

11-10-2017, 07:15 PM	#3355
grodd Power Member Member since:Sep 2011 Location:Northern CA Trading Score:3	How many suspensions is this now 3,.. 4? I think he needs to go for good. He's got a partial ban at AVSforum also.

11-10-2017, 08:08 PM	#3356
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Oh, thank **** for that. Having him AND RockyIII on this forum at the same time is just too much.

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