News: displays and their technologies

[Grey2Grey]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Blooming is a nonissue on the BRAVIA 9 and now can only very moderately seen in a very dark room and when viewing off access.

Robert meant to say "viewing off-axis".

[MechaGodzilla]

Originally Posted by kristoffer

This early hands-on by Flatpanelshd doesn’t inspire me with hope regarding Sony's new LCDs vs OLED

"First look at Sony Bravia 9
The increased number of dimming zones represents a significant leap over last year's X95L, which is consistent with what we observed in terms of zone control during our demos. We were not permitted to photograph sessions with real content, but we saw significantly reduced blooming compared to X95L. Still, Bravia 9 cannot claim to be free of blooming around bright objects, especially red ones for some reason. It makes perfect sense given that there are still only a few thousand dimming zones employed to illuminate several million pixels."

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1713369602

Originally Posted by lgans316

Pro-OLED website for years. So nothing new about the negativity from them. They are saying the same thing over and over.

I was about to say. FlatpanelsHD have a strong anti-LCD bias. They make a point of putting down any LCD TV, high-end or mid-range, no matter how much praise it garners from others. Only OLED will do.

Originally Posted by Jay Mammoth

If there is it’s not noticeable to me, but then again I don’t ever use uniformity screens to look for problems.

And that's of course the best approach. If it doesn't show up in content, better to not go looking!

[soaptrail]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

I spent a lot of time with Sony's BRAVIA 9 and Sony's engineers at several private invites that I was included in.

The peak luminance is very nicely improved as is the very deep rich blacks and shadow and peak luminance detail. Thanks to the big increase in the amount of local dimming zones along with Sony's new Backlight Master Drive that now not only controls every very tiny MiniLEDs, but only for the BRAVIA 9 the Backlight Master Drive controls the luminance level of each MiniLED.

Blooming is a nonissue on the BRAVIA 9 and now can only very moderately seen in a very dark room and when viewing off-axis.

Originally Posted by kristoffer

This early hands-on by Flatpanelshd doesn’t inspire me with hope regarding Sony's new LCDs vs OLED

"First look at Sony Bravia 9
The increased number of dimming zones represents a significant leap over last year's X95L, which is consistent with what we observed in terms of zone control during our demos. We were not permitted to photograph sessions with real content, but we saw significantly reduced blooming compared to X95L. Still, Bravia 9 cannot claim to be free of blooming around bright objects, especially red ones for some reason. It makes perfect sense given that there are still only a few thousand dimming zones employed to illuminate several million pixels."

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1713369602

I am sure you can see blooming as they say but hopefully it is like Robert says and not noticeable 99% of the time. I wonder if it was obvious to Flatpanelshd or if they had to really check a lot of scenarios before they found it.

I am thinking this will be an improvement in blooming that will make existing LED owners happy. Whether this is strong enough to convert an OLED owner is another question. Either way this should be a great set for a lot of people.

[Robert Zohn]

No one has seen any BRAVIA 9 mass production units yet.

The BRAVIA 9 prototypes I have spent a lot of time with had very minimal blooming that was only seen in a totally dark room and when viewing off axis.

Other than this very welcome enhancement, the overall picture quality is exceptional and for the first time you will see more details and depth with all images and all content. This is because of the very deep blacks and very high peak luminance capability and Sony's new 2nd generation of the very well respected Backlight Master Drive that now controls every tiny MiniLED's luminance levels.

[soaptrail]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

No one has seen any BRAVIA 9 mass production units yet.

The BRAVIA 9 prototypes I have spent a lot of time with had very minimal blooming that was only seen in a totally dark room and when viewing off axis.

Other than this very welcome enhancement, the overall picture quality is exceptional and for the first time you will see more details and depth with all images and all content. This is because of the very deep blacks and very high peak luminance capability and Sony's new 2nd generation of the very well respected Backlight Master Drive that now controls every tiny MiniLED's luminance levels.

Robert thanks for all the helpful info. How many MicroLED's does this set have? I assume it is not one to one with pixels.

[Robert Zohn]

Sony will not release the amount of MiniLEDs that are in the BRAVIA 9 or the BRAVIA 7. But along with the new 2024 Backlight Master Drive upgraded features Sony also increased the amount of local dimming zones and MiniLED backlights.

[DisplayCalNoob]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Sony will not release the amount of MiniLEDs that are in the BRAVIA 9 or the BRAVIA 7. But along with the new 2024 Backlight Master Drive upgraded features Sony also increased the amount of local dimming zones and MiniLED backlights.

It sounds like it will be a mixture of zones and individually controlled MiniLEDs. Also, I'm expecting peak nits of about 2500 nits and between 800 and 900 nits of full screen brightness. The ucing on the cake, would be all of that with black level of 0.005 cd/m2. Local Dimming contrast ratio of 300k:

[lgans316]

All I am after is a 10% improvement in overall picture quality over the ZD9. I am ok with a bit of blooming ands raised blacks. ZD9 does a very good job with rendering highlights against a dark background although it can bloom but at least Sony doesn't do a Samsung by muting highlights.

[Jay Mammoth]

LG G4 vs Samsung S95D vs Sony A95L Livestream Comparison - YouTube

[I DO BLU]

LG TVs Become The World’s First To Provide Apple Spatial Audio With Dolby Atmos Support

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarc...h=126256883f4b

[soaptrail]

Originally Posted by Jay Mammoth

LG G4 vs Samsung S95D vs Sony A95L Livestream Comparison - YouTube

that link is 2 hours and 39 minutes long. I did not last that long. Is there a cliff notes version?

[I DO BLU]

Sony | BRAVIA 9 Mini-LED QLED 4K HDR Google TV – Product Overview - YouTube

[Jay Mammoth]

Originally Posted by soaptrail

that link is 2 hours and 39 minutes long. I did not last that long. Is there a cliff notes version?

I couldn’t watch that long ass video either but from what I read sounds like all 3 are very good TVs with their own strengths and weaknesses but the G4 is the best all round TV so far this year.

[soaptrail]

Originally Posted by Jay Mammoth

I couldn’t watch that long ass video either but from what I read sounds like all 3 are very good TVs with their own strengths and weaknesses but the G4 is the best all round TV so far this year.

What we can all buy a different TV and feel like we got the best one? Heresy! JK.

[I DO BLU]

Hisense U9N First Impressions & Measurements | 5K-Nit Surprise TV - YouTube

[I DO BLU]

Just got 10 more movies Sony pictures core and have 24 months to use.

[Ruined]

If you are buying a TV this year and your budget is under $5k, the Sony Bravia 9 is the obvious choice and the best display in this price class available to date.

While OLED might have more precise per pixel illumination, that is at the expense of the entire picture failing to meet the HDR specifications of the many movies with 3000-4000+nit content. While MiniLED is not perfect, it brings us the closest to the impactful HDR grade that is actually on the disc rather than the downgraded version OLED TVs display (OLED is essentially the "720p" of HDR). MiniLED also doesn't require the babying that OLED does to avoid burnin, nor does it have brightness loss over time as OLED can after regular pixel voltage calibrations; MiniLED is clearly the best transition technology until MicroLED is affordable

[Jay Mammoth]

G4 is the obvious pick. I want the better PQ that OLED provides, I’ll upgrade next year though when the G5 comes out.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by I DO BLU

Sony’s A95L QD-OLED is getting a major refresh with 2024 TV features
https://www.tomsguide.com/tvs/sonys-...24-tv-features

Sony makes great TVs with great picture quality.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by Jay Mammoth

G4 is the obvious pick. I want the better PQ that OLED provides, I’ll upgrade next year though when the G5 comes out.

I want that TV to crash and burn in the market. It's an overpriced WOLED. LG's greed has no bounds.