HDR Discussion Thread

[Geoff D]

Oh that's a tune and a half. Move over rover, and let Jimi take over

[LordoftheRings]

What I like most about this HDR thread is that you can relax without being too seriously anal about it.
It's important, because that's how we advance.

A month ago this article was posted.
• https://www.trustedreviews.com/opini...lained-2927035

There are hundreds more like it. Today we are seeing the improved and advanced results on our displays thanks to advanced players like from the new Panasonic Hollywood visionaries.

The best is yet to come.
Happy Thanksgiving Day to all Canadians.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Oh that's a tune and a half. Move over rover, and let Jimi take over

and others, with regard to your raised letterbox concerns....

The Rolling Stones - Paint It, Black (Official Lyric Video) - YouTube

The Rolling Stones - Paint It, Black (Official Lyric Video) - YouTube

[Waboman]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Waboman, where are you? Do you possess any beach football or soccer skills?

I did stay at a Holiday Inn. Put me in, coach!

Speaking of beaches, a cryptic message has been unearthed. Aliens? Atlantians? Soccer hooligans?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

What I like most about this HDR thread....

When I’m in your neck of the woods with good reading material for the flight up there -



our fav restaurant is Ancora - http://extratv.com/videos/0_hsfu3vn5

[Penton-Man]

follow-up from Sept. 9 – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post15507142
explanation-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_...n_North_Island

Since the paparazzi will probably pick up on this soon, I’ve un-redacted the locations -

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Jesus, I know Tom Cruise is supposed to be tiny but not THAT tiny

better?
(from this afternoon)

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Waboman

I did stay at a Holiday Inn. Put me in, coach!
Speaking of beaches, a cryptic message has been unearthed. Aliens? Atlantians? Soccer hooligans? (see pic)

I see you’ve got storyboarding skills –



too!

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

. This is how I feel at times. This thread should have a translator for all the technical terms. I just like the end result of a 4K experience but I don’t get all the bells and whistles that get me there.

Translation: when da screen gets dark da letterbox bars go all grey like

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

Nice. I sold my 1200GS awhile ago. I have a BMW S1000XR now, as my riding tends to be far more concrete than anything that I would need the GS for.

(https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...r#post14662883)

Tom’s ride for Top Gun: Maverick is a wee bit faster than both of us are used to.
Outside the main gate of NAS NI today –



P.S.
If memory serves, you once did some sub training across the bay.

[Penton-Man]

https://vimeo.com/5396710#t=3m11s

Nay Rafe, we’re good, you just supervise today. Tom can do most everything that is required on a motorcycle in this motion picture.

[Penton-Man]

https://vimeo.com/249493086

[Kris Deering]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

(https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...r#post14662883)

Tom’s ride for Top Gun: Maverick is a wee bit faster than both of us are used to.
Outside the main gate of NAS NI today –



P.S.
If memory serves, you once did some sub training across the bay.

I've ridden quite a few subs out of Point Loma. I don't go down to the SD area as much lately though, other than CEDIA of course.

Funny you mention bikes, I loaned my Blu-ray of the Penton Story to my dad yesterday to check out. He is turning 70 this week and is thinking about buying one of those Honda Monkeys to fool around with. He used to repair/rebuild mini bikes before I was born to fool around with when he wasn't desert riding on a Bulltaco.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

I've ridden quite a few subs out of Point Loma. I don't go down to the SD area as much lately though, other than CEDIA of course.

Funny you mention bikes, I loaned my Blu-ray of the Penton Story to my dad yesterday to check out. He is turning 70 this week and is thinking about buying one of those Honda Monkeys to fool around with. He used to repair/rebuild mini bikes before I was born to fool around with when he wasn't desert riding on a Bulltaco.

And tell him the Pursang and Matador caused me to dislike Amal carbs immensely ….so much so that I actually switched out the Amal for a Mikuni (which I re-jetted myself) on my Penton Jackpiner, despite John (Penton) not being altogether too happy about it, but then as a consequence it became 1-kick to start every time no matter the weather conditions or how tired my leg was.

For those of you tourist types someday planning a stay on Coronado (which is where current TG: M filming is taking place) and wondering where to unpack your suitcases, well, the Del, because of its longtime heritage has the rep for being the finest hotel, but personally I think the true and relatively unknown gem (due to its location on the bay which is sweeeet!) is the Coronado Island Marriott Resort & Spa, especially if you can afford a private cottage. You never know who you might run into on the way to the lobby.

P.S.
And for those of you planning a getaway vacation to woo your girlfriend, there’s nothing like opening up the patio door on the backside of your cottage to sit down and feed the koi fish and ducks hanging out in your own personal quaint fish pond, so come prepared with the appropriate food.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Since the paparazzi will probably pick up on this soon,

But fortunately, they didn’t capture this shot of the jet in action…..https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...g#post15582090
And I bet they’d give up their left nut to know where the bar scenes are being filmed with the other cast members. Good luck with that.

[Staying Salty]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Red sky in the morning,
Sailors take warning
Red sky at night,
Sailor’s delight

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

The upper line of JVCs projectors are true 12 bit end to end, from the input, video processing and panel drivers. At least according to the engineers I talk to at JVC. Their entry model is 10 bit on the input side and 12 bit on the output/panel drivers.

My RS440 shows 12 bit in the Information menu when fed by the 820 with a UHD BD (with Deep Color at 12 bit). Does that mean it's actually taking it, or is it truncating the signal from 12 to 10 bit, then upconvered in the panel to 12 bit?

I wonder if I should just send the RS440 10 or 12 bit from the 820.

[DisplayCalNoob]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Apart from the raised letterbox bars on darker full-field content in DV I can detect very few differences between it and HDR10 on the Sony ZD9 in terms of APL, colour, retention of highlight detail and so on. But then I've made sure that the HDR10 is tracking the correct brightness curve (having also tested the same patterns in forced DV) and used the same white balance calibration on both. If I had to pick them apart in a blind test on this TV I'd be very hard pressed to do so (black bars aside), although on very close scrutiny the DV seems to have a slightly more involving usage of the local dimming, but then that could just be my eyes playing tricks as I haven't directly compared two sources back and forth at the same time.

How did you do that, DV has different white balance and grayscale results compared to HDR10 and use RGB tunneling to trigger DV. The luminance values are different for the EOTF PQ, ICtCp EOTF luminance values are different as well.

[DanBa]

Originally Posted by PaulGo

Before I asked you I tried to to research this and it was sort of going into a brick wall. I did read in general Dolby has two licensing plans one is a flat rate and another is by unit sales but absolutely nothing about DV Blu-ray licensing. On the other hand HDR10+ licensing looks dirt cheap.

https://www.audioholics.com/news/hdr...-certification

"There is no license fee to the studio or the show producers to create Dolby Vision content and all other deliverables.
The Dolby Vision license fee is for TV or set-top box manufacturers, and it’s roughly the price of a cup of coffee per unit.
Post houses do incur some nominal costs to purchase the equipment and software needed, which is not outside the norm."
[Why content creators and producers should create Dolby Vision masters - Dolby]
https://www.dolby.com/us/en/technolo...hite-paper.pdf

[mrtickleuk]

Originally Posted by DanBa

"There is no license fee to the studio or the show producers to create Dolby Vision content and all other deliverables.
The Dolby Vision license fee is for TV or set-top box manufacturers, and it’s roughly the price of a cup of coffee per unit.
Post houses do incur some nominal costs to purchase the equipment and software needed, which is not outside the norm."
[Why content creators and producers should create Dolby Vision masters - Dolby]
https://www.dolby.com/us/en/technolo...hite-paper.pdf

I think the issue is that Dolby's idea of "some nominal costs" is rather different from most small companies' and in many cases, unrealistic.