Early Blu-rays that may have playback issues (Criterion, Well Go USA, etc.)

[jscoggins]

I will add titles to the OP as you guys list them.

I have a couple of other Well Go USA BDs and will check them, too.

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by Buscemi

Stir of Echoes also has playback problems. The first copy (a used copy from gohastings.com) I bought was glitchy beyond belief but I was able to get a refund and later bought a new copy from Barnes and Noble that worked.

Added!

[tedopolous]

Originally Posted by Nage

Decided to upload some pics of the bronzing

Is the last one The Man From Nowhere?

[Nage]

Originally Posted by tedopolous

Is the last one The Man From Nowhere?

yeah the only one i didnt post was ipman 2 but its bad too, and i only tried to play the man from nowhere but it didnt even read it

[mallomar]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

Yes, the Mould code is more important.

Okay, thanks again for clarifying this.

jscoggins:

I wonder if maybe we could change the information on the opening post to reflect this fact? Instead of directing people to look for SID codes of LB or LO, we could direct them to look for mould codes of 10K7 or 10K6, and SID codes only if they can't read the mould codes. The above pictures from GxyExpress999 are the clearest I've seen yet, and would make a good accompaniment to this explanation.

That might stop a lot of the crosstalk about which codes to look for and where, and what they mean. Reading through the thread, there's a lot of almost clear but often conflicting information on this topic.

Okay, last I'll say about it. Thanks!

[Yojimbo68]

Originally Posted by SuperFlyHighGuy

My Basic Instinct disc died too, threw it away last year. Maybe I should have held onto it if they were willing to replace it. I saw it at Target for $5 the other day but I'm hesitant to buy it again and have It did also.

I'm in the same boat. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me...I thought about importing the UK Blu-ray but I heard conflicting reports about that disc as well. Supposedly, the UK Blu-ray is missing the LFE channel, so it has little or no bass. Guess I'll just have to dust off my laserdisc until something better comes along...

I'd love to pick up American Pyscho, The Devil's Rejects and The Lincoln Lawyer but as the mob boss said in Casino about Alan King's character, "Why take a chance?"

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by mallomar

Okay, thanks again for clarifying this.

jscoggins:

I wonder if maybe we could change the information on the opening post to reflect this fact? Instead of directing people to look for SID codes of LB or LO, we could direct them to look for mould codes of 10K7 or 10K6, and SID codes only if they can't read the mould codes. The above pictures from GxyExpress999 are the clearest I've seen yet, and would make a good accompaniment to this explanation.

That might stop a lot of the crosstalk about which codes to look for and where, and what they mean. Reading through the thread, there's a lot of almost clear but often conflicting information on this topic.

Okay, last I'll say about it. Thanks!

I am monitoring the situation as best as I can. There are now three threads dedicated to defective discs.

[Majin Blu]

Originally Posted by wormraper

sheesh, between this and the Well Go USA bronzing I'm feeling a bit sick to the stomach (especially with them since I have 11 titles already bronzing and the another 40 that have the potential to) and rather disenchanted with the format right now. wondering how many more of my 2700 discs are hiding with bronzed discs

I don't even want to think about it. And I'm quite nervous.

[mallomar]

Originally Posted by jscoggins

I am monitoring the situation as best as I can. There are now three threads dedicated to defective discs.

And you're doing a fantastic job, don't get me wrong. This whole thing came together out of this thread.

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by mallomar

And you're doing a fantastic job, don't get me wrong. This whole thing came together out of this thread.

[rexxriot]

I think Chaplin has some issues. I got it a while ago from Amazon Warehouse Deals and it wouldn't play. Others had the same issue.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

So are the discs not loading at all, or are these issues during playback? I'm checking my Mad Men discs now and they're loading fine.

[PGW]

Originally Posted by wormraper

sheesh, between this and the Well Go USA bronzing I'm feeling a bit sick to the stomach (especially with them since I have 11 titles already bronzing and the another 40 that have the potential to) and rather disenchanted with the format right now. wondering how many more of my 2700 discs are hiding with bronzed discs

This won't make you feel better, but...

I just pulled "Stir of Echoes" (Lions Gate) off the shelf, and the disc surface is blotchy and cloudy. This has happened with DVDs (particularly the ones issued in clear cases) where evidently off-gassing from the plastic case causes a cloudy residue to form on the surface of the disc, eventually rendering it unable to play. The same oily slime is on the inside of the "Stir of Echoes" case, and many other blu-ray cases - this is the first time, though, that I've seen it hop over and "infect" a blu-ray disc.

You know, these people charge us a lot of money for these things, make us sit through endless ads and warnings, then re-issue them and expect us all to buy them AGAIN. The very LEAST they can do is put them in cases that don't negatively effect the performance of the disc they're supposedly protecting.

/rant

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by rexxriot

I think Chaplin has some issues. I got it a while ago from Amazon Warehouse Deals and it wouldn't play. Others had the same issue.

Oops! I was going to include that in the list when I created the thread, but somehow it got left off. Thanks!

Originally Posted by Aragorn the Elfstone

So are the discs not loading at all, or are these issues during playback? I'm checking my Mad Men discs now and they're loading fine.

Mix of both. Some, like Basic Instinct, are totally unreadable. The Hunger Games got stuck on the layer change.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by PGW

This won't make you feel better, but...

I just pulled "Stir of Echoes" (Lions Gate) off the shelf, and the disc surface is blotchy and cloudy. This has happened with DVDs (particularly the ones issued in clear cases) where evidently off-gassing from the plastic case causes a cloudy residue to form on the surface of the disc, eventually rendering it unable to play. The same oily slime is on the inside of the "Stir of Echoes" case, and many other blu-ray cases - this is the first time, though, that I've seen it hop over and "infect" a blu-ray disc.

You know, these people charge us a lot of money for these things, make us sit through endless ads and warnings, then re-issue them and expect us all to buy them AGAIN. The very LEAST they can do is put them in cases that don't negatively effect the performance of the disc they're supposedly protecting.

/rant

for some reason I never had the stir of echoes issue. it looks minty fresh and still plays fine (as of my OCD checking a little bit ago)

the criterion ones I can handle.. an oops happens and Criterion is TOP NOTCH with their service. it's why I love them to death and gladly will pay their prices (in comparison to TT)... but with Well Go USA being discovered a day or so later on a HUGE percentage of their stock.... with that same pressing factory being used for dozens of other titles that have the potential to go bad.... lets say it feels rather disheartening... especially since importing them from Asia or even the cheaper U.K. will cost me 3-8 times the cost of what I payed for these wasted pieces of plastic (I honestly don't think Well Go USA will be able to do anything about it. I honestly think they will ignore us ...that is until the rest of their discs start failing and it drives them out of business... which I think is the most logical conclusion)

[jscoggins]

No apparent problems with either Dangerous Liaisons (2013) or Ocean Heaven (2012).

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by jscoggins

No apparent problems with either Dangerous Liaisons (2013) or Ocean Heaven (2012).

yeah, Shaolin was the last reported one that actually had any bronzing, and it was light bronzing around the edge.. either one of two things

1. it stopped with that title. they fixed whatever problem it was

or

2. it takes time for this to show up and being that the titles listed already are part of their first batch of titles the other 2012 titles will start bronzing around next year ish.... (most likely scenario considering how many discs still use the IFPI 606 location for their printing)

[Torrente]

Is there maybe a new pressing from another plant for A Man from Nowhere that wouldn't be affected?


My copy doesn't play anymore (although I watched it perfectly 1 yearand a half ago)

[UFAlien]

My copy of My Bloody Valentine (the 1981 original) bronzed and stopped working. I'd never heard of this at the time - at first I thought I'd spilled coffee on it, but nope, it was disc rot on the data layer. Wouldn't play or detect. Had just watched it about a month earlier.

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by wormraper

yeah, Shaolin was the last reported one that actually had any bronzing, and it was light bronzing around the edge.. either one of two things

1. it stopped with that title. they fixed whatever problem it was

or

2. it takes time for this to show up and being that the titles listed already are part of their first batch of titles the other 2012 titles will start bronzing around next year ish.... (most likely scenario considering how many discs still use the IFPI 606 location for their printing)

You know what's funny?

I can't see an IFPI code on Dangerous Liaisons, but I do see this:

F1 BD/SM

Originally Posted by Torrente

Is there maybe a new pressing from another plant for A Man from Nowhere that wouldn't be affected?

My copy doesn't play anymore (although I watched it perfectly 1 yearand a half ago)

Wow, you also buy Well Go USA BDs (even though you live in France)?