Early Blu-rays that may have playback issues (Criterion, Well Go USA, etc.) - Page 62 - Blu-ray Forum

Antiochus · 10-06-2014, 05:39 AM

Checked my Criterions and I have 3 discs with IFPIs L021 and 10K6/7:
Pierrot le fou - bronzing / slight peeling, disc freezes
Howards End - slight discoloration (or I'm just seeing things), plays fine
Last Year at Marienbad - no visible damage, plays fine
The bad thing is all of them are OOP and I don't know if I should send the last two， especially LYAM.

PGW · 10-06-2014, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by zeze

Can't believe the Well Go thread was merged with the Criterion thread. Awful decision. Doesn't even make sense as they are two seperate companies.

Maybe we should merge the Nightbreed and Halloween thread since those releases are both done by Scream. At least that will make more sense then what is happening in this thread

Ditto. A good case of "it's working fine, so break it."

PGW · 10-06-2014, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MoneyLover

The bad thing is all of them are OOP and I don't know if I should send the last two， especially LYAM.

I wouldn't send anything that's not on the official list unless you check with them first.

amoergosum · 10-06-2014, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian81

TERRIBLE idea to merge the threads. Two completely different issues.

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Originally Posted by zeze

Can't believe the Well Go thread was merged with the Criterion thread. Awful decision. Doesn't even make sense as they are two seperate companies.

...maybe somebody wanted to help Criterion a little if you know what I mean...

jscoggins · 10-06-2014, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PGW

I wouldn't send anything that's not on the official list unless you check with them first.

Yes, even if you're sending them BDs that are still in print, make sure you document what you actually send them. At a minimum, take a picture of everything and send them an e-mail first before you mail the discs.

Vlad Draculi · 10-06-2014, 01:34 PM

I just bought M a few months ago. Should I be worried?

jscoggins · 10-06-2014, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Draculi

I just bought M a few months ago. Should I be worried?

Check your disc against the info in the OP.

Crimson King · 10-06-2014, 02:02 PM

Well Go should have its own thread IMO

cdittmer · 10-06-2014, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jw007

No kidding!!! I paid $125 for the The Third Man about 2 years ago! If that ends up being tainted and Criterion ran out of replacement copies, I'd be torn to shreds. People might even sue Criterion and that would be just awful but I could see it happening if this got out of hand.

The question is, how do I back up a Criterion blu-ray? My MacbookPro is 8 years old and I don't really have software to rip blu-rays here. Any idea?

I do not believe The Third Man is affected by this problem. It was pressed in 2008 and it appears the affected discs were pressed in 2009 and 2010. I checked my copy of The Third Man and it did not have the Sonopress codes which the "bronzed" discs have.

Vlad Draculi · 10-06-2014, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jscoggins

Check your disc against the info in the OP.

Disc looks fine. Hell, I watched it back in August and it worked fine. Bought it during the B&N sale in July.

Lino11 · 10-06-2014, 04:06 PM

Holy shit... so glad I checked this forum just before shipping out my discs. I was about to send Howard's End and Pierrot le fou....

Pierrot le fou plays perfectly, no bronzing. I was gonna send it in anyway.

Howard's End has the 1:52 skip error. Guess I'll hang on to it, tho.

Noticed bronzing on three others, tho... M, Seventh Seal, and Walkabout. Although Walkabout is the only title that my PS3 gives a disc error for.

(And on a side note, The Man from Nowhere plays fine)

jscoggins · 10-06-2014, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lino11

Holy shit... so glad I checked this forum just before shipping out my discs. I was about to send Howard's End and Pierrot le fou....

Pierrot le fou plays perfectly, no bronzing. I was gonna send it in anyway.

Howard's End has the 1:52 skip error. Guess I'll hang on to it, tho.

Noticed bronzing on three others, tho... M, Seventh Seal, and Walkabout. Although Walkabout is the only title that my PS3 gives a disc error for.

(And on a side note, The Man from Nowhere plays fine)

I would wait to make one shipment instead multiples if I were you.

grim_tales · 10-06-2014, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Crimson King

Well Go should have its own thread IMO

Speaking of Well Go, I bought The Heroic Ones BD as I want to watch it properly (the HK DVD looks 'OK' but non anamorphic, ugh)

I hope it will play OK

tenia · 10-06-2014, 04:26 PM

I'm currently checking again my discs and Walkabout, Pierrot le fou and Days of Heaven all passed VSO Inspector (Surface & File tests) at 100% green.

I guess I'm safe though my discs have suspicious SIDs codes.

Lino11 · 10-06-2014, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jscoggins

I would wait to make one shipment instead multiples if I were you.

Well, I was gonna do one shipment of the three known problem discs that show bronzing.... M, Walkabout, & 7th Seal.

I don't have any plans now to send Pierrot le fou or Howard's End.

Paris, Texas has the other pressing # on it, not the IFBI L021 like the others. So I'm not gonna ship that one, either.

Five Inches · 10-06-2014, 05:21 PM

I'm still waiting for word on international collectors. Will they actually replace our discs and ship to [your country here] (mine being Sweden). Since they are region A titles, I wouldn't just want to send my discs without any form of announcement. I can arrange to ship them to a friend in the states, and then he'll have to send me the replacement discs to me, so technically it's the same as me buying discs not in my market.

Anyone seen any information on this or have any thoughts on the issue?

Dubliner1 · 10-06-2014, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Five Inches

I'm still waiting for word on international collectors. Will they actually replace our discs and ship to [your country here] (mine being Sweden). Since they are region A titles, I wouldn't just want to send my discs without any form of announcement. I can arrange to ship them to a friend in the states, and then he'll have to send me the replacement discs to me, so technically it's the same as me buying discs not in my market.

Anyone seen any information on this or have any thoughts on the issue?

I'm sure they would ship them to you. I had to return the faulty 'White' disc from the 'Three Colors' trilogy from Ireland and it wasn't a problem. I'm posting my faulty 'Summer Hours' disc to them tomorrow.

Dubliner1 · 10-06-2014, 06:49 PM

...exactly why have WellGo been added to this discussion?...there are many other studios with dodgy early gen discs like 'Total Recall' (Lionsgate) etc etc...

Dubliner1 · 10-06-2014, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Draculi

I just bought M a few months ago. Should I be worried?

If anyone has a dodgy 'M' and is worried about sending it in and Criterion not being able to replace it due to running out of stock (I assume they would offer an alternate title instead in such a scenario?), please remember there is a superior 80th Anniversary Edition bluray disc version available from Germany and it's region-free.

Joe Fisher · 10-06-2014, 06:57 PM

Looked through my Criterion Collection BD's and found 3 with the bronzing.

M--Loads, but movie won't play.

Sanjuro- Discs loads and movies plays. Will call Criterion to see if they will exchange disc.

Monsoon Wedding--Disc loads and movie plays.

10-06-2014, 05:21 PM	#1236
Five Inches Member Member since:Apr 2011 Location:Sweden 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:-	International collectors I'm still waiting for word on international collectors. Will they actually replace our discs and ship to [your country here] (mine being Sweden). Since they are region A titles, I wouldn't just want to send my discs without any form of announcement. I can arrange to ship them to a friend in the states, and then he'll have to send me the replacement discs to me, so technically it's the same as me buying discs not in my market. Anyone seen any information on this or have any thoughts on the issue?

10-06-2014, 05:39 AM	#1221
Antiochus Active Member Top contributor Member since:Sep 2009 4K collection:309 Blu-ray collection:1193 DVD collection:3 MA collection:15 Digital collection:10 iTunes collection:6 Trading Score:14	Checked my Criterions and I have 3 discs with IFPIs L021 and 10K6/7: Pierrot le fou - bronzing / slight peeling, disc freezes Howards End - slight discoloration (or I'm just seeing things), plays fine Last Year at Marienbad - no visible damage, plays fine The bad thing is all of them are OOP and I don't know if I should send the last two， especially LYAM.

10-06-2014, 01:34 PM	#1226
Vlad Draculi Banned Member since:Jul 2014 Blu-ray collection:567 Trading Score:2	I just bought M a few months ago. Should I be worried?

10-06-2014, 02:02 PM	#1228
Crimson King Blu-ray Prince Member since:Oct 2009 Blu-ray reviews: 19 Trading Score:684	Well Go should have its own thread IMO

10-06-2014, 04:06 PM	#1231
Lino11 Active Member Member since:May 2010 4K collection:122 Blu-ray collection:1152 DVD collection:164 Trading Score:85	Holy shit... so glad I checked this forum just before shipping out my discs. I was about to send Howard's End and Pierrot le fou.... Pierrot le fou plays perfectly, no bronzing. I was gonna send it in anyway. Howard's End has the 1:52 skip error. Guess I'll hang on to it, tho. Noticed bronzing on three others, tho... M, Seventh Seal, and Walkabout. Although Walkabout is the only title that my PS3 gives a disc error for. (And on a side note, The Man from Nowhere plays fine)

10-06-2014, 04:26 PM	#1234
tenia Banned Top contributor Member since:Sep 2010 Location:France 4K collection:251 Blu-ray collection:4012 Blu-ray reviews: 103	I'm currently checking again my discs and Walkabout, Pierrot le fou and Days of Heaven all passed VSO Inspector (Surface & File tests) at 100% green. I guess I'm safe though my discs have suspicious SIDs codes.

10-06-2014, 06:49 PM	#1238
Dubliner1 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Apr 2010 Location:Spain Home Theater Gallery:11 4K collection:347 Blu-ray collection:600 DVD collection:5 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:18	...exactly why have WellGo been added to this discussion?...there are many other studios with dodgy early gen discs like 'Total Recall' (Lionsgate) etc etc...

10-06-2014, 06:57 PM	#1240
Joe Fisher Active Member Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Iowa Blu-ray collection:10 DVD collection:5 Digital collection:5	Looked through my Criterion Collection BD's and found 3 with the bronzing. M--Loads, but movie won't play. Sanjuro- Discs loads and movies plays. Will call Criterion to see if they will exchange disc. Monsoon Wedding--Disc loads and movie plays.

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