Early Blu-rays that may have playback issues (Criterion, Well Go USA, etc.)

[jscoggins]

Added X-Men: DOFP Rogue Cut to the OP

[TripleHBK]

Originally Posted by AKORIS

anyone?

When this was discussed years ago I remember hearing that Lionsgate was aware of the problems with those initial films and corrected the issue. One would assume that unless you somehow manage to get a sealed copy from 2007/2008 that the issue was corrected in subsequent pressings, regardless if the same facility was used or not. If I remember correctly, the thought was that since the Blu Ray format was still so new, there were production issues with the glue used between layers during these initial print runs. The problem was identified in 2007/2008 and corrected. More troubling recently has been Lionsgate's use of BD-Java and the BD-Live content. In many cases, turning off the internet connection to the player will solve problems where the disc locks up or hangs during loading. I own a large amount of Lionsgate titles and typically check them each year after someone brings the issue back up. To this day I've still only had one title fail on me.. an original pressing of the first Saw film. There are always going to be bad batches of discs, however typically when people have problems it's with the first 10 titles Lionsgate issued (with the occasional newer release cropping up occasionally.)

[lolwut]

I'm still trying to get Lionsgate to ship me a replacement for Saw 3D. They gave me an address to ship my disc so that they can test it themselves first.

[albirdie34dd]

I think a more inclusive title is warranted for this thread

Also a reformat.. (makes it easier to read at a glance) below is my suggestion / applied to each studio


Fox/MGM BDs:
- Die Hard 2 - (missing DTS-HD MA track; Fox just sent out the same bad disc as a "replacement");
- Sunshine - (video commentary can't be turned off; replacement available);
- Speed - (compatibility issues with some Samsung players);
- West Side Story - (all versions affected; opening credits are altered; replacement discs are still incorrect; Fox did not replace the DVDs in combo sets);
- X-Men: Days of Future Past Rogue Cut - (audio problems due to branching technology; no replacement/exchange program yet; call Fox to complain)

[AGH]

I noticed you included old discs that were packaged in new releases (Example: The Fifth Element), so here's one to add to the list...

MGM: The Terminator (2015 Comic Con Packaging/Best Buy Exclusive) - It includes the 2006 release and not the re-mastered disc.

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by AGH

I noticed you included old discs that were packaged in new releases (Example: The Fifth Element), so here's one to add to the list...

MGM: The Terminator (2015 Comic Con Packaging/Best Buy Exclusive) - It includes the 2006 release and not the re-mastered disc.

That's not a mistake, though.

The old Fifth Element disc was supposed to be taken off the marketplace entirely. MGM/Fox are still selling the old Terminator disc. It's an active SKU.

[Lord Summerisle]

I just bought Repulsion in the B&N sale. I didn't think about it being an older release. It's First Printing 2009. I have not opened it yet. I'm wondering if I should return it. Is it possible that Criterion has produced a newer batch of the bad titles since 2009/2010?

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by Lord Summerisle

I just bought Repulsion in the B&N sale. I didn't think about it being an older release. It's First Printing 2009. I have not opened it yet. I'm wondering if I should return it. Is it possible that Criterion has produced a newer batch of the bad titles since 2009/2010?

There shouldn't be any risk, especially since it's not OOP. If it doesn't play, just ask Criterion for a replacement.

[AGH]

Originally Posted by jscoggins

That's not a mistake, though.

The old Fifth Element disc was supposed to be taken off the marketplace entirely. MGM/Fox are still selling the old Terminator disc. It's an active SKU.

Lame. Understood.

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by Lord Summerisle

I just bought Repulsion in the B&N sale. I didn't think about it being an older release. It's First Printing 2009. I have not opened it yet. I'm wondering if I should return it. Is it possible that Criterion has produced a newer batch of the bad titles since 2009/2010?

Well, of course they have. That's what they use for replacement discs.

[Joe Fisher]

Just a heads up. Heard from Criterion today about replacement Sanjuro discs. They got them in last week and will start shipping replacements out this week. So if you're waiting for a Sanjuro replacement, you should have it shortly.

[Justadoo444]

A gigantic error is present on Jonah: A VeggieTales Movie (Lionsgate)'s bonus features: On all SD material, the encode is terribly messed up, squishing the picture into a small area in the top-left corner of the screen.

See here (The underlined bold text onwards): https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...8&postcount=15

[filmmusic]

I just got my Criterion Paris, Texas.
On the back cover it says "First Printing 2009", but in the disc the code is IFPI L322.
So, since I have this code I guess it's one of the unaffected discs as I saw here?
(although the "first pressing" worried me a bit)

[Freeza]

Originally Posted by filmmusic

I just got my Criterion Paris, Texas.
On the back cover it says "First Printing 2009", but in the disc the code is IFPI L322.
So, since I have this code I guess it's one of the unaffected discs as I saw here?
(although the "first pressing" worried me a bit)

Yes, IFPI L322/L323 - Mould QWYZ corresponds to the replacement disc they sent out, whereas my original faulty disc was IFPI L021 (both) - Mould 1OK7.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by filmmusic

I just got my Criterion Paris, Texas.
On the back cover it says "First Printing 2009", but in the disc the code is IFPI L322.
So, since I have this code I guess it's one of the unaffected discs as I saw here?
(although the "first pressing" worried me a bit)

It seems counter-intuitive, but when it comes to Criterion, "first pressing" only changes to "second pressing" when they actually make mastering or encoding changes to the file on the disc, not when when have the same encoding re-pressed.

[I KEEL YOU]

Torrente, do you have any news about the extensive French disc rot problem?

Can the problem with the French discs be categorized like this?:

If the glue in the middle of the disc is brown, then the disc will become unplayable.
If the glue in the middle of the disc is white, then the disc is healthy.

[neo_reloaded]

Originally Posted by I KEEL YOU

Torrente, do you have any news about the extensive French disc rot problem?

Can the problem with the French discs be categorized like this?:

If the glue in the middle of the disc is brown, then the disc will become unplayable.
If the glue in the middle of the disc is white, then the disc is healthy.

Where did you hear that? Is that your guess?

I've seen discs from multiple countries with brownish glue in the center, so I certainly do not believe that statement to be true.

[Oniros]

THANK GOD FOR THIS THREAD. After stumbling upon it, I went and checked the only Criterion release my family owns (Paris, Texas) and indeed it was all bronzed up. Mailing it asap for a replacement.

EDIT: For the record, I bought the movie only last year.

[Professor Echo]

How will this thread ever be properly updated in the OP if the person who started it is "BANNED?" This is one of the most helpful threads on the site and I would hate for it to just fade away while people are still stuck with bad discs.

[Professor Echo]

LOLA MONTES is on the Criterion list, but if anyone has reported a problem with it in this thread, I couldn't find it. I wonder if I should send it in to Criterion anyway just to be on the safe side. ???