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I KEEL YOU · 10-04-2014, 06:20 PM

Unlike your other two threads, I don't think these aren't playing due to bronzing, but because some firmware upgrade has made them unplayable.

wormraper · 10-04-2014, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Debts

Better check my DREDD disc soon, then.

Dredd wasn't a failure rate one. it was just a bad pressing that got sent out. if you played it once and it was fine, you're good. mostly only best buy got that batch.

Nage · 10-04-2014, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by wormraper

I'd worry about rebuying it till we get verification that they had more than one pressing. you very well may get another one that will fail again. the only way I'm rebuying any of them is from another company (U.K.) or if Well Go USA sends out new printings

Oh I will be rebuying from different countries like Korea for the man from no where and probably HK for the others

jscoggins · 10-04-2014, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nage

Yeah checked my blu and nothing wrong with it, the only one I'm worried about is shaolin, no visible signs but might re buy it just to be safe

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Originally Posted by wormraper

I'd worry about rebuying it till we get verification that they had more than one pressing. you very well may get another one that will fail again. the only way I'm rebuying any of them is from another company (U.K.) or if Well Go USA sends out new printings

Yeah, don't rebuy. Read back a few more posts. You'll see that someone just bought new/sealed copies that have bronzed while sitting on store shelves.

wormraper · 10-04-2014, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Nage

Oh I will be rebuying from different countries like Korea for the man from no where and probably HK for the others

unfortunately we'll end up paying 3x-8x the price to replace all these discs. I don't know how I'll replace the shaw brothers flicks like "heroic ones", "web of death" etc

jscoggins · 10-04-2014, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by wormraper

Dredd wasn't a failure rate one. it was just a bad pressing that got sent out. if you played it once and it was fine, you're good. mostly only best buy got that batch.

Same with The Hunger Games.

wormraper · 10-04-2014, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jscoggins

Same with The Hunger Games.

poor best buy.

and what was wrong with "The Lincoln Layer"? I never heard about that one, that was a much later movie than their original ones that failed like Saw etc

cardiac161 · 10-04-2014, 06:32 PM

Still send an email to mulvaney@criterion.com.

I live in Vancouver and sent him an email regarding the Eraserhead problem and I got a reply telling me to return to their office address in NY. Quite sure it'll be the same for these Criterion defectives.

Chiefy · 10-04-2014, 06:35 PM

Just opened up my brand new, just received copy of IP Man 2 that came with a slipcover, and I see IFPI IC0Z on the inner ring. Bronzing on the outside edge, so I guess it's hosed or will be soon.

GxyExpress999 · 10-04-2014, 06:35 PM

Bigger Than Life: a slight discoloration but plays fine for now. (The mastering code was found at a different position.)

wormraper · 10-04-2014, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefy

Just opened up my brand new, just received copy of IP Man 2 that came with a slipcover, and I see IFPI IC0Z on the inner ring. Bronzing on the outside edge, so I guess it's hosed or will be soon.

damn, even subsequent printings are affected? so far it's just been the 606 printings, but that's disheartening

jscoggins · 10-04-2014, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wormraper

poor best buy.

and what was wrong with "The Lincoln Layer"? I never heard about that one, that was a much later movie than their original ones that failed like Saw etc

Not sure. Endtroducing started a thread that mentioned The Lincoln Lawyer. We never got to the bottom of the issue, though.

Chiefy · 10-04-2014, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wormraper

damn, even subsequent printings are affected? so far it's just been the 606 printings, but that's disheartening

Perfect example why backups of your personally owned media should be permitted. I'll be checking all my Well Go titles, and those that have bronzing will go onto a BD-R. This is total bogus.

iaragorn1 · 10-04-2014, 06:42 PM

I read about this problem a few minutes ago and a quick check of only a few disks have revealed Walkabout is severely affected and Paris, Texas has a light brownish hue. Now will have to find the others.......

wormraper · 10-04-2014, 06:45 PM

I've been checking through a bunch of my other newer WELL go USA titles and some of them like "thieves" and "wrath of vajra" + a dozen others printed recently have the 606 IFPI code as well. none are showing bronzing, but I'd be real suspicious of them in the future.. I'd guess at least 50% of their films come from Utech and I honestly don't think I can trust them as a mfg anymore. I think this officially is going to kill my purchases from them in the future. we're only seeing it just start with the 2010-2011 titles, but I'm guessing next year we'll start to see titles like "thieves" (a 2012 title) and on start failing.

uther · 10-04-2014, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cardiac161

Still send an email to mulvaney@criterion.com.

I live in Vancouver and sent him an email regarding the Eraserhead problem and I got a reply telling me to return to their office address in NY. Quite sure it'll be the same for these Criterion defectives.

I mentioned that in my first post. Pay US+Canadian shipping charges, ugh the screw the foreigners solution. I am holding off for now for a Canadian solution from Criterion and sure not going to mail them off in waves each additional time Criterion admits more titles are affected.

Other replacement programs have been more Canadian friendly.

jscoggins · 10-04-2014, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wormraper

I've been checking through a bunch of my other newer WELL go USA titles and some of them like "thieves" and "wrath of vajra" + a dozen others printed recently have the 606 IFPI code as well. none are showing bronzing, but I'd be real suspicious of them in the future.. I'd guess at least 50% of their films come from Utech and I honestly don't think I can trust them as a mfg anymore. I think this officially is going to kill my purchases from them in the future. we're only seeing it just start with the 2010-2011 titles, but I'm guessing next year we'll start to see titles like "thieves" (a 2012 title) and on start failing.

That really sucks. I've appreciated Well Go USA bringing Korean cinema to the US, but if the discs fail, how can we share them with our friends and get them onboard?

tedopolous · 10-04-2014, 06:53 PM

What is this even.

Some of my Criterion discs rotting, and now I read this thread, so I go check my BD of The Man From Nowhere. And the disc is totally hosed. 30 seconds into the first startup trailer (Ip Man 2 ironically), picture and sound breaks up, and it's not possible to get anything else out of the disc. I can't see much discolouration on the data surface, but the disc is broken alright. It played fine when I bought it at release (great movie).

wormraper · 10-04-2014, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jscoggins

That really sucks. I've appreciated Well Go USA bringing Korean cinema to the US, but if the discs fail, how can we share them with our friends and get them onboard?

I do to. I've always been a big proponent of them bringing Asian cinema to us at an affordable price, but if what I think is going to happen happens, WG USA is going to be hit HARD in the next 2-3 years as the titles that are bronzing now start actually failing and the rest of their stock starts bronzing ... I don't say this lightly, because every company will have a goof, a bad pressing or what not, but I can't support them anymore without a complete switch in their pressing facilities and a replacement program for failed discs, and I just don't see that happening.

I hate to say this but if WG USA gets a title I either find a reasonable import or use one of those evil sites that starts P.. and ends with bay.

Nage · 10-04-2014, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by wormraper

I've been checking through a bunch of my other newer WELL go USA titles and some of them like "thieves" and "wrath of vajra" + a dozen others printed recently have the 606 IFPI code as well. none are showing bronzing, but I'd be real suspicious of them in the future.. I'd guess at least 50% of their films come from Utech and I honestly don't think I can trust them as a mfg anymore. I think this officially is going to kill my purchases from them in the future. we're only seeing it just start with the 2010-2011 titles, but I'm guessing next year we'll start to see titles like "thieves" (a 2012 title) and on start failing.

damn thats bad to hear since i have a lot of their blus, hope we get a response soon

10-04-2014, 06:20 PM	#981
I KEEL YOU Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:May 2011 4K collection:67 Blu-ray collection:458 DVD collection:42	Unlike your other two threads, I don't think these aren't playing due to bronzing, but because some firmware upgrade has made them unplayable.

10-04-2014, 06:32 PM	#988
cardiac161 Senior Member Member since:May 2008	Still send an email to mulvaney@criterion.com. I live in Vancouver and sent him an email regarding the Eraserhead problem and I got a reply telling me to return to their office address in NY. Quite sure it'll be the same for these Criterion defectives.

10-04-2014, 06:35 PM	#989
Chiefy Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Nov 2013 Location:Twin Cities, MN 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- MA collection:- Digital collection:- iTunes collection:- Prime collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:421	Just opened up my brand new, just received copy of IP Man 2 that came with a slipcover, and I see IFPI IC0Z on the inner ring. Bronzing on the outside edge, so I guess it's hosed or will be soon.

10-04-2014, 06:35 PM	#990
GxyExpress999 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 Location:US of A Home Theater Gallery:7	Bigger Than Life: a slight discoloration but plays fine for now. (The mastering code was found at a different position.)

10-04-2014, 06:42 PM	#994
iaragorn1 Special Member Member since:Nov 2010 Location:Southwest 4K collection:462 Blu-ray collection:976 Trading Score:2	I read about this problem a few minutes ago and a quick check of only a few disks have revealed Walkabout is severely affected and Paris, Texas has a light brownish hue. Now will have to find the others.......

10-04-2014, 06:45 PM	#995
wormraper Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Tucson Arizona 4K collection:966 Blu-ray collection:5295 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:571	I've been checking through a bunch of my other newer WELL go USA titles and some of them like "thieves" and "wrath of vajra" + a dozen others printed recently have the 606 IFPI code as well. none are showing bronzing, but I'd be real suspicious of them in the future.. I'd guess at least 50% of their films come from Utech and I honestly don't think I can trust them as a mfg anymore. I think this officially is going to kill my purchases from them in the future. we're only seeing it just start with the 2010-2011 titles, but I'm guessing next year we'll start to see titles like "thieves" (a 2012 title) and on start failing.

10-04-2014, 06:53 PM	#998
tedopolous Banned Member since:Sep 2013	What is this even. Some of my Criterion discs rotting, and now I read this thread, so I go check my BD of The Man From Nowhere. And the disc is totally hosed. 30 seconds into the first startup trailer (Ip Man 2 ironically), picture and sound breaks up, and it's not possible to get anything else out of the disc. I can't see much discolouration on the data surface, but the disc is broken alright. It played fine when I bought it at release (great movie).

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