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Old 03-24-2016, 01:33 AM   #7801
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How long ago was that?....
Lonnnnng ago, as a wee young whipper snapper, I visited this amusement park just prior to it being shut down…http://www.coastergrotto.com/server/ads.jsp

Still have family in Mountain Top (they moved up there before the big flood). Good solid folks in that area of the country....kind of reminds me of Steed's Sunderland folk and Geoff's South London crowd....but I digress from zee 4K, so I apologize for the reminiscing.

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Old 03-24-2016, 05:33 PM   #7802
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Notice to any apparently unhappy fellows whining on the last page....surprisingly, this week the 45,000 barrier ->
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So, I’ve been alerted that there have been 45,000 views for this thread over the course of the past week (7 days).

Note to the administration: In the interest of mercy to our servers, Better to be safe than sorry, right?
Deci and Ice, hold on.....

was broken, as it’s 46,000+ views over the last 7 days for this humble thread. I attribute the additional 1,000 views to the Playstation 4 folks like mike (https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...c#post12004305) and the theatrical audio discussion by Kris Deering et al.
For the later, although I feel a bit handicapped on that topic as I think I be a little hard-at-hearing in my right ear due to ;nevertheless, I’ll do my part in contributing to that discussion and submit the Klipsch list – http://www.klipsch.com/blog/five-ven...adbpr=15851618

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Old 03-24-2016, 05:41 PM   #7803
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Remember this freebie from early 2011 with traditional Blu-rays…. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ls#post4453123

You or anyone else are free to try the same code with your Sony Ultra HD Blu-ray discs in order to enhance your picture quality viewing experience.
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I’ve already received thanks regarding the above ^ from a couple Blu-ray.com members (users of the UHD freebie) via PM.
You’re welcome and thank you for the additional suggestions.

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Old 03-24-2016, 05:50 PM   #7804
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HDR and rec 2020

Sap, nice pic. Although it’s quite difficult to appreciate from that yellow triangle ("typical HDR-10 UHD TV), I’ll add that a little talked about color volume nuance is that lab personnel believe that P3 red lies slightly outside of BT. 2020, ergo, some *adjustment* is needed by mastering personnel when converting P3 content to BT. 2020.
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Old 03-25-2016, 12:23 AM   #7805
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The promotion of Batman v. Superman with the Batmobile….
http://abc7.com/entertainment/many-p...lenge/1261050/

Latest periscope coverage is from about 1 hour ago…… about 20 people left….
https://www.periscope.tv/Doritos/1ynJOXQodVVxR

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brings back memories of "full dress" holding a rifle by my side.

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Old 03-25-2016, 12:27 AM   #7806
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An upcoming event in the southland…with Colorfront. One moment please.
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Old 03-25-2016, 12:33 AM   #7807
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^ https://www.eventbrite.com/e/colorfr...ts-23930300172

AbelCine is also hosting an event in Burbank in May, see bottom of the above linked page.
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Old 03-25-2016, 11:21 AM   #7808
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God's Not Dead 2

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Old 03-25-2016, 09:35 PM   #7809
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....AbelCine is also hosting an event in Burbank in May, see bottom of the above linked page.
Although, not included in the Presenter’s bio for that ^ event, it should be mentioned (for worthy recognition) that Dado was the color scientist for Marco Polo Season 2 (intended HDR version from the get-go), who enabled the DP to rest assured that he was capturing enough information for good HDR imagery (search my old posts for ‘thick negative’, for further info), despite the handicap of the production having access to only SDR onset monitors at the time.
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Old 03-25-2016, 09:39 PM   #7810
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I agree….and best wishes for a Happy Easter to all those who celebrate it.
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Old 03-26-2016, 01:16 AM   #7811
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An article on broadcast HDR was just released and it sounds like a lot of things will be decided this October

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Note to Richard, first draft of ICtCp for our favorite codec just went up a couple days ago.
After looking over the ICtCp draft it makes a bit more sense since the LMS components are simply combinations of red, green, and blue which is why it is possible to make a luma channel using only L and M. ICtCp sounds great based on the proposal that Dolby released and hopefully the HEVC tests will support that.
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Old 03-26-2016, 01:27 AM   #7812
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Any current releases have branching?
What's the longest movie released or announced for UHD?
Any of the "largest size" discs been produced?
Will really long movies like Spartacus be a problem for the format?

Thanks to anyone who knows any of these questions.
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Old 03-26-2016, 02:40 AM   #7813
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Bolty, I was wondering the same thing about Lawrence of Arabia just today when I was adding it to my site. Amazon has the movie in their UHD collection. The cut of Lawrence of Arabia that they have is 3 hours and 47 minutes. Even with HEVC, I am assuming since we don't have the triple layer discs out yet that LoA would be a 'flipper' if it was released now.

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Old 03-26-2016, 10:43 AM   #7814
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The current Japanese Mi4K Blu-ray version of Lawrence is split over two discs for optimal quality, if we were to get a UHD release now I think it would also be split over two discs. Sony have previously indicated that they're further along with 100GB disc replication than other companies, but using two 66GB discs would be a total of 132GB which would give the movie more room to groove. The movie can be split naturally at the intermission, after all...
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Geoff D, my apologies if this has been investigated further, but has anyone answered your question from way back, that of how well these 4k displays do when upconverting Blu-rays?
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Old 03-26-2016, 03:51 PM   #7816
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I've had a 4K display for almost three years, they do just fine at upscaling Blu-ray. Or do you mean 'how well do the 4K UHD players upconvert Blu-ray?'. That I can't answer, not yet...
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Old 03-28-2016, 05:03 PM   #7817
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I agree….and best wishes for a Happy Easter to all those who celebrate it.
I hope everyone had a happy weekend. We’ll accept any photos from you guys (or gals) in NYC who wore your Easter bonnets ….

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Old 03-28-2016, 05:19 PM   #7818
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An article on broadcast HDR was just released and it sounds like a lot of things will be decided this October...
Richard, nice link . That’s especially a good easy-to-read quick catch up article for those not closely following the next gen TV developments, plus, I like Sky Deutschland being referred to in the first paragraph because I’m a fan of their pioneering work …. http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2015/...dynamic-range/ and that they’re hinting at HDR with 4K/UHD as opposed to a dilution. Lord knows there’s enough ‘dilution’ going on with regards to other aspects of the AV community.

Regarding the HDR timeline and the ITU, kudos to all those who’ve volunteered their time and expertise as it’s been a long, arduous journey where patience is indeed a virtue. For the historical record, and to expand a little upon the author’s comment - “ITU-R has been discussing HDR for over two years, with a new recommendation finally agreed in February” …..

Actually, the initial submission leading to the discussion of high dynamic range as an upgrade to traditional television dynamic range parameter arose in ITU-R on a proposal in April 2012 from the United States for improving the original BT.2246 report on “The present state of ultra-high definition television” (and that report leading to the more well known (by hobbyists) ITU-R BT.2020 recommendation so often quoted these days by bloggers)…. so, ITU discussions about extended image dynamic range have actually been going on behind closed doors for even longer that some journalists or bloggers may think.

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Forum Promo: For that matter, Blu-ray.com has been accurately discussing for longer than 2 years, the next gen video parameter of HDR anchored by specifics from developers in the field, rather than simply with anecdotal or marketing dept. generalizations.

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Old 03-28-2016, 05:35 PM   #7819
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Something else that new readers to this or the other sticky threads in the Ultra HD Blu-ray and 4K forum perhaps may be unaware of with regards to all these standards organizations is that it’s not like no work is being done until the next meeting (October) and then everyone all of a sudden shows up to vote in person or via remote access to decide on some issue at that time.

Tests are conducted in between meetings all the time. For example, starting in several days at labs in Sweden and Rome, the current state-of-the-art HEVC Main 10 coding of HDR vs. the HDR Call for Evidence cc from the version 1.0 anchors….will be compared in subjective testing.

So, in the interim of formal meetings which the press hears about eventually, investigators devote a lot of time and effort into testing under scientific conditions/methodology (example in the above alluded to project, all viewers will have prior specific formalized training for assessing the quality of the content and are pre-screened to check visual acuity (Snellen chart, etc.) and even for partial color blindness (Ishihara tables), just for starters.
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Old 03-28-2016, 05:50 PM   #7820
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With regards to SMPTE standards, a full quarterly report for Feb.- March of the latest block meetings has at this moment not been posted on the official site, with Dec. 2015 being the last available for public access….


from https://www.smpte.org/standards/meeting-reports

But, the Feb. – March report should be up soon. In the meantime I can inform folks that roughly 60 members attended in person during this latest 4 day meeting round up in Silicon Valley and there was additional participation by remote access. With regards to HDR/WCG, a project proposal was introduced for signaling the carriage of HDR and/or WCG essence on interfaces. The project is expected to be underway by the next meeting round.

In regards to the ST.2094 document suite (think Content-Dependent Metadata for Color Volume Transformation of High Luminance and Wide Color Gamut (WCG) Images, or Geoff’s fav), well, five of these parts have been balloted and are in the process of comment resolution. It’s possible for more parts to be added if any new proponents have dynamic metadata processes they wish to standardize. Any takers?
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