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[Michael.Schinke]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

Who can name the only other film (to my knowlege) currently on DVD to use that trick theatrically? (tip, the US release is crappy )

Well I don't know if you're thinking the same as I, but they did it in The Simpsons Movie.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

Well here is the problem......

Max, don’t you read your own freakin Insider’s Thread?
Who the heck is Burley?...........I never heard of them. 1st division, 2nd division……some club team? Are you referring to a match for the F.A. Cup or League Cup ????????

As an aside, if you ever get the chance to visit RPS……………..
http://www.4rfv.co.uk/directory/202x...Ltd-Surrey.htm

Simon Burley has a film recorder (one of the very few) capable of handling 15perf IMAX and actually did test work for The Dark Knight material. If you ever get the opportunity, you might want to drop by there and talk large format film.

[ThatArtGuy]

Who can name the only other film (to my knowlege) currently on DVD to use that trick theatrically? (tip, the US release is crappy )

Disney's Brother Bear used a changing aspect ratio fairly effectively. (The movie was average at best unfortunately.)

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

Sorry Penton!

Burnley are a Championship football club, so they play one division below Spurs...........

Well, that sounds bloody disgusting to me that the Arsenal would lose to a team of such a lower skill level.
They must have had an off-day or Arsene played all his second string guys.

P.S.
And speaking of bloody disgusting and the fact that my house guests (two of whom are pre teen/young teenage girls) can’t stop yapping about Twilight since I escorted them recently to the theater to see it (along with the other females in my household)………this is all the sparkle I can add to the subject………………

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/14402/

^
More Director intended ‘enhanced’ digital processing, which just may drive those screenshot *scientists* crazy the way they’ve been ranting on recently.

Come 2009, I can just hear it now……
”Those sparkles look too “edgy” to me. I’m not buying this Blu-ray movie because such a blockbuster could have been reference material for me to show-off to all my many, many friends.”

[Jeff Kleist]

Well I don't know if you're thinking the same as I, but they did it in The Simpsons Movie.

Simpsons is just a few minutes, the one I|'m thinking of changes at around the 90min mark

[Michael.Schinke]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

Simpsons is just a few minutes, the one I|'m thinking of changes at around the 90min mark

I'm gonna need more clues than that. Toss be a bone, Daddy-O!

[sjy1969]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

Simpsons is just a few minutes, the one I|'m thinking of changes at around the 90min mark

Dr Strangelove?

At least it says multi aspect ratio on the cover of my DVD..

[Anthony P]

Who can name the only other film (to my knowlege) currently on DVD to use that trick theatrically?

not what you are guessing, but there is also Napoléon (1927) it went from 1.33:1 (4:3) to 4:1 (3x4:3)

[Jeff Kleist]

OK, so there's more :P

Yamato yo Towa ni (Be Forever Yamato) goes from 1.66:1 to 2.35:1 when they enter the other galaxy with great dramatic effect and is a rare example of anime in scope

[coolmilo]

Hello Penton,

Since you've seen it...

Is there enough going on in the movie Twilight to interest those who are not pre teen/young teenage girls? In particular, would fans of the terrific True Blood find something similar in Twilight to enjoy?

[Penton-Man]

I would say if you are a 12 -18 y.o. girl and/or her Mom, you will think that this movie is “like, really awesome” and talk about Robert Pattinson for weeks afterwards.

If you are the male escort of such an entourage to your local Cineplex (or, in the future, with the upcoming Blu-ray home media edition –you plan to show it in your home theater to such a select audience), then think of it as doing a good deed…………like giving blood.

The needle they stick you with isn’t that big and it’s all for a truly good cause.

[Brain Sturgeon]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

OK, so there's more :P

Yamato yo Towa ni (Be Forever Yamato) goes from 1.66:1 to 2.35:1 when they enter the other galaxy with great dramatic effect and is a rare example of anime in scope

Disney's Enchanted also made an effective AR change from 1.85:1 to 2.40:1 when they moved from the "fairy tale land" of Andalasia to the New York early in the movie.

[Brain Sturgeon]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I would say if you are a 12 -18 y.o. girl and/or her Mom, you will think that this movie is “like, really awesome” and talk about Robert Pattinson for weeks afterwards.

If I hear any more from my secretary about this movie (she's seen it 4 times and counting), I'm gonna hurl .

Heard Pattinson's interview on Leno was kinda weird. He apparently looked like he just got out of bed and said something to the effect of "I don't pay attention to personal hygiene", much to the dismay of the lovely Heidi Klum ( ) sitting nearby.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ1J3FTbo7g

[DenonCI]

Originally Posted by Brain Sturgeon

Disney's Enchanted also made an effective AR change from 1.85:1 to 2.40:1 when they moved from the "fairy tale land" of Andalasia to the New York early in the movie.

Actually,

I think it went from 1.33:1 to 2.35:1...I'll have to pop it in and see

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Bobby Henderson

I rented Get Smart this evening. Pretty funny comedy. Better than I expected. However, the image quality of the BD was pretty disappointing. Maybe the BD-25 disc limits had something to do with it. However, I think the movie's digital video camera origins also built in a lot of limits on the image quality too........

I’ll be briefly speaking with one of the colorists that did the work on Get Smart next week.
I’ll get back to you if I can garner any insights, as those folks at EFILM are intimately cognizant of the imagery captured with a Genesis and its advantages as well as disadvantages during post.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

OK, so there's more :P

How about Brainstorm?

I wasn't really paying much attention to shifting aspect ratios, as I was fixated with watching one of the most beautiful actresses ever on screen.

[Alan Gordon]

Originally Posted by DenonCI

Actually,

I think it went from 1.33:1 to 2.35:1...I'll have to pop it in and see

1.37:1, according to Martin Liebman's review here on the site:

Enchanted (Blu-ray)

BTW, this is the first title that popped into my head as well, but there's another one I feel I should know.

~Alan

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I’ll be briefly speaking with one of the colorists that did the work on Get Smart next week.
I’ll get back to you if I can garner any insights, as those folks at EFILM are intimately cognizant of the imagery captured with a Genesis and its advantages as well as disadvantages during post.

Bobby,
In the meantime, remember the online Genesis vs 35mm. film test link I posted several weeks ago………………………………..
http://media.panavision.com/Screenin...ox_Office.html

Well as you can see, the results are now in which show that viewers picked the correct choice less than 50% of the time. Now I know that evaluation is hamstrung by the fact that this is a compressed test posted over the internet but, it shouldn’t affect determination of dynamic range differences too much, plus the real world demo(s) done on a BIG screen at Panavision in Woodland Hills showed similar anecdotal results when eagle eyes from the industry were queried and made comments. In other words, everyone had a tough time differentiating what was 35mm footage and what was Genesis footage.

P.S.
To make the demo test equitable, the 35mm footage was converted to HD resolution to match the resolution level of the Panavision Genesis and the shoot-out was digitally projected……… which, come to think of it, actually probably makes the test more applicable to Blu-ray movie watchers anyway, since most of us see everything ultimately at 1080p at home.

[Bobby Henderson]

The Genesis system does a decent job as long as the shooting is done in well lighted situations. The camera struggles in lower light situations and is much more prone to exhibiting a video-ish look in those situations. Any rapid movement or action in the frame in low light will be affected with a smearing or ghosting effect not much different from what you would see with a low priced LCD-TV.

One good example to watch in Get Smart is a scene shot at or just past dusk featuring Maxwell Smart (Steve Carell) and Agent 99 (Anne Hathaway). In this scene Agent 99 gets her point across that Maxwell Smart isn't ready to be a field agent -she takes away his Sig Sauer P226, then stuffs it pack into his pants. Smart tries to show off some Karate, gets punched in the face and then slapped. It's a funny scene. But the image quality is bad and easily identifiable as video-sourced. Numerous other scenes in Get Smart have the same problem.

This sort of issue isn't confined to the Panavision Genesis system alone. Collateral and Miami Vice were both plagued by the issues I describe. Movies like Apocalypto and The Lookout did a better job of showing off the Panavision Genesis than Get Smart -although I can point to specific scenes in those movies were that dreaded video look reveals itself.

[BluDomain]

Lossy or loseless?
http://disney.eprize.net/moviereward...d=playerhigh25