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Giant Machine · 11-16-2016, 03:50 AM

Gonzalez ain't better than Ditka or Witten. Gronk will be the GOAT TE when it is all said and done.

I hope Romo retires. There's a place for him in the Cowboys organization; it just isn't as the starting QB. There's a new set of triplets in town.

Omegaice · 11-16-2016, 03:52 AM

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...it just isn't as the starting QB. There's a new set of triplets in town.

Was that not the point of his statement earlier today?

Giant Machine · 11-16-2016, 03:56 AM

I wasn't disputing that. I'm saying that I'd rather see him assume a place in the Cowboys organization, rather than play 1-2 more seasons elsewhere. I don't want an Emmitt Smith 2.0.

Batman1980 · 11-16-2016, 04:22 AM

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I wasn't disputing that. I'm saying that I'd rather see him assume a place in the Cowboys organization, rather than play 1-2 more seasons elsewhere. I don't want an Emmitt Smith 2.0.

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Omegaice · 11-16-2016, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Giant Machine

I wasn't disputing that. I'm saying that I'd rather see him assume a place in the Cowboys organization, rather than play 1-2 more seasons elsewhere. I don't want an Emmitt Smith 2.0.

I kind of figured that's what you were getting at. I remember when Emmitt went to Arizona after Dallas but in the end he came home & retired as a Cowboy.

walruswarrior · 11-16-2016, 12:08 PM

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That's like trading him to the Browns. Tony Romo deserves better. His best bet is the Broncos and all he needs to do is be healthy for the playoffs.

Yeah the Cowboys have won soooo many playoff games in the past 10 years

RageATL · 11-16-2016, 12:39 PM

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That's like trading him to the Browns. Tony Romo deserves better. His best bet is the Broncos and all he needs to do is be healthy for the playoffs.

Except that the NYJ have won a SB albeit a long time ago, but ya know, facts and all...

RageATL · 11-16-2016, 12:41 PM

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Gonzalez ain't better than Ditka or Witten. Gronk will be the GOAT TE when it is all said and done.

I highly doubt that, no way his body holds up that long.

fatediesel · 11-16-2016, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Giant Machine

Gonzalez ain't better than Ditka or Witten. Gronk will be the GOAT TE when it is all said and done.

Gonzalez has the tight end record for receptions, touchdown receptions, and receiving yards, and only missed 2 games in his 17-year career. It's hard to compare someone like Ditka to Gonzalez because the game has changed so much, but I don't know how anyone could say Gonzalez isn't the greatest tight end of all-time. Gronk may be able to eventually pass Gonzalez in touchdowns but he's not going to come close to touching the other numbers. Gronk may go down as the most dominant tight end of all-time but he'll likely have a much shorter career due to the recklessness he plays with and the hits he takes.

walruswarrior · 11-16-2016, 12:49 PM

Witten is top 10 not top 5

West E · 11-16-2016, 01:07 PM

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NFL Network ranking all-time TEs

1 - Tony Gonzalez
2 - John Mackey
3 - Kellen Winslow
4 - Ditka
5 - Shannon Sharpe
6 - Ozzie Newsome
7 - Witten
8 - Gronk
9 - Dave Casper
10 - Antonio Gates .

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BizCat · 11-16-2016, 01:13 PM

I have never understood, at all, the criticism that Romo has gained over his career. The guy is good and has the stats to prove it. I would love to see him sign/trade with a team that can compete to win (sorry Rams, Browns, Jets, etc.).

Batman1980 · 11-16-2016, 01:17 PM

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I have never understood, at all, the criticism that Romo has gained over his career. The guy is good and has the stats to prove it. I would love to see him sign/trade with a team that can compete to win (sorry Rams, Browns, Jets, etc.).

Nice post from a fellow Cowboys fan!

BizCat · 11-16-2016, 01:26 PM

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Nice post from a fellow Cowboys fan!

Well you know, Dallas does have similar colors and stole our Thanksgiving tradition, so Detroit has prepared me

fatediesel · 11-16-2016, 01:29 PM

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I have never understood, at all, the criticism that Romo has gained over his career. The guy is good and has the stats to prove it. I would love to see him sign/trade with a team that can compete to win (sorry Rams, Browns, Jets, etc.).

He's criticized because he's only made the playoffs 4 times and only has 2 playoff wins. Fair or not QBs are judged on what they've done in the playoffs and it's hard to be considered elite when you've never even made a conference title game.

Tony208 · 11-16-2016, 01:30 PM

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Except that the NYJ have won a SB albeit a long time ago, but ya know, facts and all...

Super Bowl III? That's around the same time the Browns last won anything.

RageATL · 11-16-2016, 01:38 PM

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Super Bowl III? That's around the same time the Browns last won anything.

walruswarrior · 11-16-2016, 02:04 PM

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Super Bowl III? That's around the same time the Browns last won anything.

How many playoff wins do those Cowboys have in the past 10 years? Just wondering the answer to that question?

rickah88 · 11-16-2016, 02:37 PM

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Gonzalez has the tight end record for receptions, touchdown receptions, and receiving yards, and only missed 2 games in his 17-year career. It's hard to compare someone like Ditka to Gonzalez because the game has changed so much, but I don't know how anyone could say Gonzalez isn't the greatest tight end of all-time. Gronk may be able to eventually pass Gonzalez in touchdowns but he's not going to come close to touching the other numbers. Gronk may go down as the most dominant tight end of all-time but he'll likely have a much shorter career due to the recklessness he plays with and the hits he takes.

Maybe Gronk will be chasing Gates for the all time TE TD lead?

I don't know the numbers but Gates has to be close. Not sure how many seasons he has left in the tank though!

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He's criticized because he's only made the playoffs 4 times and only has 2 playoff wins. Fair or not QBs are judged on what they've done in the playoffs and it's hard to be considered elite when you've never even made a conference title game.

Exactly. I've been saying it for years that McNabb has a much more polished playoff record than Romo, and arguably achieved it with a lot less playmakers than Romo had for the bulk of his career. Romo was just the more popular player.
With that said I have always thought Romo was a good guy, just not very clutch.
Assuming Dallas releases him after the season, it will be pretty interesting to see where he lands. Perhaps a good offseason thread poll?

Batman1980 · 11-16-2016, 03:37 PM

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Maybe Gronk will be chasing Gates for the all time TE TD lead?

I don't know the numbers but Gates has to be close. Not sure how many seasons he has left in the tank though!

Exactly. I've been saying it for years that McNabb has a much more polished playoff record than Romo, and arguably achieved it with a lot less playmakers than Romo had for the bulk of his career. Romo was just the more popular player.
With that said I have always thought Romo was a good guy, just not very clutch.
Assuming Dallas releases him after the season, it will be pretty interesting to see where he lands. Perhaps a good offseason thread poll?

Romo won't be released, they'd have to eat too much of his salary.

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11-16-2016, 03:50 AM	#71961
Giant Machine Senior Member Member since:Aug 2016 Location:Parts Unknown Blu-ray collection:342 DVD collection:189	Gonzalez ain't better than Ditka or Witten. Gronk will be the GOAT TE when it is all said and done. I hope Romo retires. There's a place for him in the Cowboys organization; it just isn't as the starting QB. There's a new set of triplets in town.

11-16-2016, 03:56 AM	#71963
Giant Machine Senior Member Member since:Aug 2016 Location:Parts Unknown Blu-ray collection:342 DVD collection:189	I wasn't disputing that. I'm saying that I'd rather see him assume a place in the Cowboys organization, rather than play 1-2 more seasons elsewhere. I don't want an Emmitt Smith 2.0.

11-16-2016, 12:49 PM	#71970
walruswarrior Blu-ray Prince Member since:Sep 2008 Blu-ray collection:1549 DVD collection:40 Trading Score:234	Witten is top 10 not top 5

11-16-2016, 01:13 PM	#71972
BizCat Blu-ray Prince Member since:Mar 2016 Location:oHIo 4K collection:916 Blu-ray collection:3134 DVD collection:90 Trading Score:159	I have never understood, at all, the criticism that Romo has gained over his career. The guy is good and has the stats to prove it. I would love to see him sign/trade with a team that can compete to win (sorry Rams, Browns, Jets, etc.).

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