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Old 12-20-2011, 04:38 AM   #13381
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Steelers 0-3 vs the Harbaugh brothers this year
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Old 12-20-2011, 06:07 AM   #13382
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Johnny Knox (back) is facing a 3-4 month recovery after successful Monday surgery to stabilize his vertebra.
The Bears will place him on injured reserve, ending his season. "Looking to the future," said coach Lovie Smith, "it looks bright for him, of course, to play and to get back out there." The initial timetable is unofficial. Knox faces extensive rehab, so it's too early to suggest that he will be ready for the start of training camp.
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:26 AM   #13383
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great news, he had one of the worst looking injuries in years

Eagles defense is on a monster roll right now, 13 sacks, 3 picks, 4 fumble recoveries, a safety, and a defensive score in their last 2 games

and they dominated Dallas earlier in the season
should the Cowboys be worried

Seahawks defense is also dominating, I think they'll spoil the 49ers chances at the #2 seed

in their last 3 games, they've got 9 sacks, 9 picks , 1 fumble recovery, 4 defensive scores, and giving up under 12 points a game
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:00 AM   #13384
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This game is over. Hopefully ravens can lose to Cincinnati.


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After the game we played against San Diego, it's possible.
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:18 AM   #13385
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Will Marshawn "Skittles Beast" Lynch be the one to break through 100 yards or a touchdown vs the 49ers?
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:01 AM   #13386
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Patriots thanks all the 10-3 teams that lost this week for letting them get the #1 seed
They still have to beat the resurgent Dolphins and Buffalo (who beat them earlier in the year), but at least both of them are at home.

Side note, why is NFL.com so bad at their standings week after week? The Ravens beat the Steelers twice and they still put the Steelers above them. Even by their own tie breaking procedures the Ravens are #1 in AFC North. The Ravens are the only team in the AFC undefeated at home this year. That has to be a first. The Pats and Indy are usually the ones with that honor.
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Old 12-20-2011, 12:57 PM   #13387
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The Steelers lost to the 49ers? What the hell? I know the 49ers are a good team this year but whats goin on? This was a strange week in the NFL. Teams that should have won lost, what a wild ride it has been. As for the Pats? They will win the last 2 games at home and be the number 1 seed and the Cowboys will win a close one against Philly. Just my prediction anyway.
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Old 12-20-2011, 01:38 PM   #13388
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The only thing worse than the power outages, last night - the officiating. Apparently, the crew working last night doesn't even know what a chop block is.
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Old 12-20-2011, 02:49 PM   #13389
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The only thing worse than the power outages, last night - the officiating. Apparently, the crew working last night doesn't even know what a chop block is.
Yea and then there's the call on Timmons where they said he used the back to gain height on the field goal. Replay showed that's not what happened. Even the commentaries didn't see it. And that resulted in a 1st down half distance to goal. Not that it mattered.


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Old 12-20-2011, 02:55 PM   #13390
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Will Marshawn "Skittles Beast" Lynch be the one to break through 100 yards or a touchdown vs the 49ers?
What's with the Skittles thing? I never heard anything about it then all of a sudden last week the dude's getting doused with Skittles! I mean, I love Skittles and if he does too, maybe we can be friends.
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:05 PM   #13391
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What's with the Skittles thing? I never heard anything about it then all of a sudden last week the dude's getting doused with Skittles! I mean, I love Skittles and if he does too, maybe we can be friends.
Lynch eats skittles after he scores a touchdown. Through the magic of television, fans found out and so now they douse him with it when he scores. It's pretty dumb though. There's a decent chance a player could get some skittles accidentally thrown in their eyes.
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:22 PM   #13392
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Patriots will place RE Andre Carter on injured reserve with a torn quadriceps, ending his season.
The injury will require surgery, leaving Carter unavailable for the playoffs. The league's 32nd-ranked defense will now play without its most effective pass rusher. Mark Anderson will pick up snaps, but he's a liability in the run game. Carter will turn 33 in 2012, but he should attract more free agent interest this time around after 10 sacks in 13 games.
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:31 PM   #13393
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Just curious why total yardage is the stat that is used when ranking defenses? The Patriots have given up more yards than anyone but they are tied for 14th (with the Packers) in points allowed, which I consider a lot better stat for determining how good a defense actually is. It's not surprising that the Patriots would be last in yards allowed (and the Packers 2nd worst) because they often have large leads so teams are throwing on them constantly to try and get back into the game so they rack up a lot of garbage yards. I'm not really defending the Pats defense because they are terrible and lack a pass rush and decent secondary, but I just think points are a better indicator that yards.
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:45 PM   #13394
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Just curious why total yardage is the stat that is used when ranking defenses? The Patriots have given up more yards than anyone but they are tied for 14th (with the Packers) in points allowed, which I consider a lot better stat for determining how good a defense actually is. It's not surprising that the Patriots would be last in yards allowed (and the Packers 2nd worst) because they often have large leads so teams are throwing on them constantly to try and get back into the game so they rack up a lot of garbage yards. I'm not really defending the Pats defense because they are terrible and lack a pass rush and decent secondary, but I just think points are a better indicator that yards.
As good as having first seed would be, losing your best pass rusher right before the playoffs has to sting big time. The Patriots will have to score fast and often to make it through the playoffs this year.
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:47 PM   #13395
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To me the best indicators of the quality of a defense are turn-overs forced, 3rd down percentage and points allowed. Yards are a nice indicator but really don't tell the whole story. Mark Anderson is a pass rusher and little else, that injury is going to have a ripple effect on the entire Patriots defense.
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:56 PM   #13396
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As good as having first seed would be, losing your best pass rusher right before the playoffs has to sting big time. The Patriots will have to score fast and often to make it through the playoffs this year.
There's no question that the only way the Patriots can succeed in the playoffs is by scoring 35+ points every game. Even before the Carter injury the Patriots defense was terrible and this is just going to make it worse. I think that the Patriots will win their final 2 games and get the #1 seed but I think in either the divisional or AFC title game Brady is going to have a bad game and the Pats are going to lose by 2 touchdowns. I just have no faith in this year's team despite their record.
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Old 12-20-2011, 04:00 PM   #13397
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The Steelers lost to the 49ers? What the hell? I know the 49ers are a good team this year but whats goin on?
That's the thing, they are not just a good team, they proved it last night. Their defense is out of this world, Gore is a beast, and Smith has a good 16TDs - 5INTs ratio.
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Just curious why total yardage is the stat that is used when ranking defenses? The Patriots have given up more yards than anyone but they are tied for 14th (with the Packers) in points allowed, which I consider a lot better stat for determining how good a defense actually is. It's not surprising that the Patriots would be last in yards allowed (and the Packers 2nd worst) because they often have large leads so teams are throwing on them constantly to try and get back into the game so they rack up a lot of garbage yards. I'm not really defending the Pats defense because they are terrible and lack a pass rush and decent secondary, but I just think points are a better indicator that yards.
Yeah, especially when a defense allows only a FG after a 70-80 yard drive.
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Old 12-20-2011, 05:01 PM   #13399
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So if the giants win the eagles/cowboys game is totally meaningless to the cowboys cause it would come down to week 17....i wonder if they would rest people.

Week 16 Scenarios:

AFC
New England can clinch a first-round bye with:
1) NE win + HOU loss or tie
2) NE win + PIT loss or tie + BAL loss or tie
3) NE tie + HOU loss
4) NE tie + PIT loss + BAL loss

New England can clinch home-field advantage throughout the playoffs with:
1) NE win + HOU loss or tie + PIT loss or tie + BAL loss or tie
Baltimore can clinch the AFC North division title with:
1) BAL win + PIT loss

Baltimore can clinch a first-round bye with:
1) BAL win + PIT loss + HOU loss
Denver can clinch the AFC West division title with:
1) DEN win + OAK loss or tie
2) DEN tie + OAK loss + SD loss or tie

Denver can clinch a playoff berth with:
1) DEN win + NYJ loss + CIN loss + TEN loss or tie

NFC
Green Bay can clinch home-field advantage throughout the playoffs with:
1) GB win or tie
2) SF loss or tie

New Orleans can clinch the NFC South division title with:
1) NO win or tie

San Francisco can clinch a first-round bye with:
1) SF win + NO loss

Dallas can clinch the NFC East division title with:
1) DAL win + NYG loss or tie
2) DAL tie + NYG loss

Atlanta can clinch a playoff berth with:
1) ATL win or tie
2) DAL loss or tie + CHI loss or tie + ARI loss or tie
3) NYG loss or tie + CHI loss or tie + ARI loss or tie

Detroit can clinch a playoff berth with:
1) DET win or tie
2) CHI loss or tie + ARI loss or tie + SEA loss or tie + DAL loss or tie
3) CHI loss or tie + ARI loss or tie + SEA loss or tie + NYG loss or tie
4) CHI loss or tie + ARI loss or tie + SEA loss or tie + ATL win or tie


Teams That Have Clinched
AFC North
Baltimore clinched a playoff berth (Week 15)
Pittsburgh clinched a playoff berth (Week 15)
AFC South
Houston clinched the AFC South division title (Week 14)
AFC East
New England clinched the AFC East division title (Week 15)
NFC North
Green Bay clinched the NFC North division title (Week 13), clinched a first-round bye (Week 14)
NFC South
New Orleans clinched a playoff berth (Week 14)
NFC West
San Francisco clinched the NFC West division title (Week 13)

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Houston over Indianapolis
New England over Miami
Jacksonville over Tennessee
Carolina over Tampa Bay
Baltimore over Cleveland
Arizona over Cincinnati
Washington over Minnesota
Denver over Buffalo
Pittsburgh over St. Louis
Kansas City over Oakland
NY Giants over NY Jets
San Diego over Detroit
Philadelphia over Dallas
Seattle over San Francisco
Green Bay over Chicago
New Orleans over Atlanta
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