2025-2026 NFL Season Thread

[Brady_2_Moss]

Originally Posted by MD-Blu

What are you all think he'll get charged with and do you all think he's guilty?

doesn't matter if we think hes guilty..up to the courts now

[R3P0]

Originally Posted by Brady_2_Moss

part of me wished they waited for the charges..but his is in deep trouble no doubt about it

They should have waited and this is why...

the move prevents the Patriots from ever recovering a penny of the $12.5 million signing bonus from his 2012 contract extension worth a total of $39 million. It remains to be seen whether the Patriots will try to avoid paying $3.25 million in a deferred payment due on March 31, 2014, and whether they’ll try to wipe out base-salary guaranteed of $1.323 million in 2013 and $1.137 million in 2014.

They are now on the hook for that contract and it does count against the cap.

[MD-Blu]

Originally Posted by Brady_2_Moss

doesn't matter if we think hes guilty..up to the courts now

I know that, and it's true. I was referring to the evidence that we do already know.

[Brady_2_Moss]

Originally Posted by R3P0

They should have waited and this is why...



They are now on the hook for that contract and it does count against the cap.

Pats will try and get out of some of that $$ and they will succeed

[R3P0]

Originally Posted by Brady_2_Moss

Pats will try and get out of some of that $$ and they will succeed

I know the Lions recovered the money given to Charles Rodgers so it is possible they will get some of that cash back, as well they should.

[BattleScarredShogun]

Originally Posted by Blu-Benny

what i'm wondering if if the cleaning company has some rule that they have to follow about not disclosing info about a client. would something like that be over ridden by a murder investigation??

do cleaning companies keep records of what was all done and cleaned up?? and if they do.....do the employees talk about the clients after they get back to the office and compare notes on who had to clean the dirtiest house??

I believe they would be forced to disclose the information if they were served a subpena, no matter the circumstances. Lawyer/Doctor confidentiality is a bit difference unless it involves death/possible death or other life endangering circumstances.

[TitansFan4Life]

Ravens will put in a claim for Hernandez.

They won two Super Bowls at the hand of a murderer. Why not add another one now that their team is murderer-free?

[R3P0]

Hernandez was apparently a loaner in Pats locker room and did not hang or associate with his teammates he preferred to associate with those from his old Neighborhood. Apparently he also threatened Wes Welker on his first day of work lol.

Stories continue to accumulate about the signs in Aaron Hernandez’s background, stories that paint a more complete if complicated picture about his character.

And according to the Boston Globe, he flashed a temper and made threats to one of the Patriots’ respected veterans within days of arriving for work.

In an anecdote near the bottom of a longer report, it was mentioned that Hernandez was at the team facility trying to watch film, when he grew frustrated at not being able to operate the equipment. Wide receiver Wes Welker walked by, Hernandez asked for help, and Welker replied: “Rookie, you figure it out.”

According to the report, Hernandez “responded with expletives.”

The Globe being a family publication, didn’t expound, but one of their reporters did on Twitter.

According to Shalise Manza Young, Hernandez’s reply was “f— you Wes, I’ll f— you up!“

While rookies getting their backs up with veterans is not an uncommon act, the threat within a few days of being drafted was unusual, and as was noted, it was not said in a joking manner.

It was also reported in the newspaper that Hernandez spent “little, if any time with his Patriots teammates off the field,” preferring to surround himself with friends from his old neighborhood.

Taken on its own, the story might not be that big of a deal, especially within the legal context of “innocent until proven guilty.”

But coupled with everything else we’ve learned about Hernandez this week, it adds to the pile of anecdotal evidence which is becoming harder to ignore.

[Tony208]

doesn't matter if he ends up being innocent, he will never be a Patriot again

probably be a raven or raider somewhere down the line

[Blu-Benny]

Originally Posted by R3P0

As much as I hate the Pats I love them for the way they run there team. Best run Franchise in the NFL because of this.

def. have to agree w/u there!!

[fatediesel]

Originally Posted by R3P0

They should have waited and this is why...

They are now on the hook for that contract and it does count against the cap.

Originally Posted by Brady_2_Moss

Pats will try and get out of some of that $$ and they will succeed

Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk was just on the Dan Patrick Show and he said by releasing Hernandez now it will be very difficult if not impossible for the Patriots to get any money back from Hernandez. Since the release occurred after June 1 Hernandez will have a $7.5 million cap number in 2014. From the sounds of it the Pats wanted to disassociate themselves from Hernandez bad enough that they were willing to take the cap hit and lose the ability to recover money (and cap space).

[R3P0]

Originally Posted by fatediesel

Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk was just on the Dan Patrick Show and he said by releasing Hernandez now it will be very difficult if not impossible for the Patriots to get any money back from Hernandez. Since the release occurred after June 1 Hernandez will have a $7.5 million cap number in 2014. From the sounds of it the Pats wanted to disassociate themselves from Hernandez bad enough that they were willing to take the cap hit and lose the ability to recover money (and cap space).

Fate cant argue the intelligence of wanting to do this now. Dunno why they just didn't tag him and place him on a list and see what happens. I am sure they did there due diligence and consulted with the league as to the rules and options over the past few weeks. If its one thing we know about the Patriots they are not a stupid organization when it comes to personal. I do wonder after this if they will call Randy Moss back.

[Tony208]

this is just one case where they value the Patriots brand over the money
it's just good long term planning, they take some cap hits for 2014 and what not but they keep the team name out of headlines

instead of "Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez goes to court" in big and bold, you get one line in the bottom of the article mentioning the pats released him a while ago

some other teams would wait the entire thing out

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by fatediesel

Hernandez isn't the only NFL player in trouble, although it's unlikely this player would have ever actually played in an NFL game:



http://www.northjersey.com/news/Form...n_Passaic.html

Punching a man is attempted murder?

[Batman1980]

Hernandez will be signed by the Raiders or the Bengals if he gets out of this without major prison time. I'd say the Cowboys but they have Jason Witten and they seem pretty high on Hanna and Escobar.

[ChadFL]

This makes 29 arrests of NFL players since the Super Bowl.

[Navster]

Not sure why people would think the Raiders would give him a chance, Al is not around anymore, with new management we wouldnt even give him a tryout, we just cut a felon, why would be add another ... Compared to other teams I bet you Raiders are pretty low on the list of players arrested or in trouble with the law in the past 10 years...

What a fail for Hernandez, there goes the Pats 2 TE offense... and with Gronk always injured, better hope Ballards knee's will hold up or that offense in trouble...

[ChadFL]

When talking about "cleaning company" it may well not even be a legit company. A lot of rich people just hire a Hispanic person off the street to do that sort of work.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by MD-Blu

What are you all think he'll get charged with and do you all think he's guilty?

Well I've never known anyone who intentionally destroyed their home security system, cellphone and had their home scrubbed clean the same day a murder of an acquaintance happened a mile away.

[Another_Dude]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Punching a man is attempted murder?

Depending on who is throwing the punch or who is taking it?

Absolutely.