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Old 05-09-2014, 05:53 PM   #48861
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He was out this year and I believe the year before he had hammy injuries so hes been injured multiple times.
Not to mention the foot injury that was a concern going into the draft reared its ugly head again this year and cost him significant playing time.
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:07 PM   #48862
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Manziel must be the greatest QB all time. He's gotten more talk in 24 hours than even Favre did. Than Tebow did.

Dallas talk radio is endless whining about how the Cowboys missed the opportunity to get a hall of famer as the 16th pick.

People need to get a grip.
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:10 PM   #48863
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I never wanted Manziel, even with our starting QB my age and having chronic back problems. He's a media magnet and we don't have the atmosphere in Dallas for him to flourish, he'll do worse in Cleveland than he would here of course. Josh Gordon is not enough for that kid to do well in a QB-killing town, especially in such a tough division with smash mouth defenses.
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:35 PM   #48864
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The New England Patriots scouting report on Johnny Manziel has been leaked. To sum it up: they really didn't like Manziel.

http://deadspin.com/leaked-internal-...-li-1574040417

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JL 8/22 -Vibe on this guy keeps getting worse. Support staff members are sick of him and ready for him to go. Described as a cocky, me-guy. Loves football, FBI is high as well. Everything has been pretty well-documented in online articles about the kid, but sources say he's a spoiled brat (grandfather gives him allowance, father bought him luxury car). They say he was getting on people's nerves during the '12 season, but it went to another level after the ALUN game. Seems to enjoy putting himself in situations where he knows attention will follow him (TXUN frat party during summer). CONCERNS: Off-field behavior, cockiness, maturity
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JL 10/15 - Suspended first half of TXRI game for autograph scandal. Couple of TXTC sources say can't yell/scream at him or he shuts down; has walked away from Kingsbury in the past. Has an avg. work ethic, came to 4 of 32 summer '13 workouts, and quit going to in-season workouts late in '12. Doesn't study the game, said to know about 60% of the offense in '12, never watches film; one source said only time he watched film during '12 was before ALUN. Comes from 'outlaw bloodlines', mom moved the family to Kerrville to get away from father's wild family. Father's family is said to be very shady people, always into something, they are the root of Johnny's personality. 'What you see on TV and how he is portrayed, that's him; but when you talk to him, you'll like him'. Coaches love his tuffs/competes, they want to go to war with him, but 'Johnny will be Johnny' during the week. Knows how to scheme the system, arrogant and full of himself, but he's not smug to coaches. Has been like this since Day 1, has never gone to class, goes to beat of own drum, but has ultimate confidence. Loves the spotlight, football is his release, big games don't scare him. Has size 15 feet and freakishly big hands. Will drink, but no one I spoke with think he's a smoker. Teammates don't dislike him, but there's some resentment, more so in the offseason when he isn't coming to workouts and they are busting their butt. Loner, doesn't hang out with the guys, but very close with WR Mike Evans. Already has money, is used to spotlight, has already been exposed to NFL-level fame. Will never take football seriously enough for our coaching staff, he'll hate meetings, will have to drag him to work out, etc. The definition of the word maintenance. CONCERNS: Maturity, passion for preparation, high-maintenance, work ethic
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:45 PM   #48865
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Johnny Football was drinking beer at the draft!



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Old 05-09-2014, 06:47 PM   #48866
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Looks like the Browns are gaining new fans.

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/spor...70db2fcc308649

The guy that put up billboards around town is now promising more when the Texans and Browns play this year.

"The week before that game, I'm going to project the Browns logo outside my house, right across the street from my great neighbor, (Texans owner) Bob McNair," Buzbee said. "And when Johnny wins the game, which I'm positive he will do if he starts, we'll have some more billboards."

Does that mean he is going to paint his house with a brown light?
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:49 PM   #48867
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The New England Patriots scouting report on Johnny Manziel has been leaked. To sum it up: they really didn't like Manziel.

http://deadspin.com/leaked-internal-...-li-1574040417
Wow that report is troubling.
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:51 PM   #48868
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Looks like the Browns are gaining new fans.

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/spor...70db2fcc308649

The guy that put up billboards around town is now promising more when the Texans and Browns play this year.

"The week before that game, I'm going to project the Browns logo outside my house, right across the street from my great neighbor, (Texans owner) Bob McNair," Buzbee said. "And when Johnny wins the game, which I'm positive he will do if he starts, we'll have some more billboards."

Does that mean he is going to paint his house with a brown light?
lol thats taking the draft a tad too far... LOL if he tanks would they still feel the same way... I could see being bitter if he becomes a big star, but for the most part just hate your team and GM like I do in the past
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:51 PM   #48869
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He was out this year and I believe the year before he had hammy injuries so hes been injured multiple times.
He missed 3 games his rookie year, but he still put up almost 1K. He didn't miss any time in 2012. He missed the last 11 games last year.
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:51 PM   #48870
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Wow that report is troubling.
Yeah the problem with Manziel isn't height or talent, it's the fact that he's still 10 years old and now he's the face of a franchise. The worst part is he isn't even as talented as Tim Tebow so his flameout may be even faster.
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:52 PM   #48871
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Johnny Football was drinking beer at the draft!



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Except it's fake, so yeah...
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:53 PM   #48872
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Yeah the problem with Manziel isn't height or talent, it's the fact that he's still 10 years old and now he's the face of a franchise. The worst part is he isn't even as talented as Tim Tebow so his flameout may be even faster.
lol. Manziel is 10x the talent at QB as Tebow.
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:54 PM   #48873
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Well they took hernandez so how bad is Johnny football.
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:55 PM   #48874
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lol. Manziel is 10x the talent at QB as Tebow.
I dunno, Tebow's game didn't translate well to the NFL but he was an amazing college QB. He also had height and a big arm, both of which Manziel seems to lack. A most telling sign of this particular draft pick would be Josh Gordon's reaction, since this move will have a huge impact on the kid's career.
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:56 PM   #48875
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Yeah the problem with Manziel isn't height or talent, it's the fact that he's still 10 years old and now he's the face of a franchise. The worst part is he isn't even as talented as Tim Tebow so his flameout may be even faster.
Matt Leinart jr... He won't figure it out till after his chance has passed. Leinart had some flashes but with partying and not seeming to actually care he let his opportunity slip away. Hopefully Manziel won't do the same, but people need to remember guys like Leinart, Manziel if they fail and walk away with a few million they've already got good family situations to go back too, they won't end up in the ghetto because they spent all there money or didn't get a degree, so I could see them being as unenthused as a guy like Hayensworth who cashed in big and didn't need to produce.
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:57 PM   #48876
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I dunno, Tebow's game didn't translate well to the NFL but he was an amazing college QB. He also had height and a big arm, both of which Manziel seems to lack. A most telling sign of this particular draft pick would be Josh Gordon's reaction, since this move will have a huge impact on the kid's career.
Manziel's arm matches Tebow, and it's got a much faster release. Notice how nobody wanted to move Manziel or rework his throw, but that's what every analyst and team wanted to do with Tebow.
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I wasn't sure if they'd be able to find a taker due to his somewhat large contract:

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Filed to ESPN: 49ers trading a conditional 2015 4th-round pick to Buffalo for WR Stevie Johnson, per sources. Pick can become a 3rd.
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:57 PM   #48878
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Except it's fake, so yeah...


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I wasn't sure if they'd be able to find a taker due to his somewhat large contract:
Good move in my opinion.
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Matt Leinart jr... He won't figure it out till after his chance has passed. Leinart had some flashes but with partying and not seeming to actually care he let his opportunity slip away. Hopefully Manziel won't do the same, but people need to remember guys like Leinart, Manziel if they fail and walk away with a few million they've already got good family situations to go back too, they won't end up in the ghetto because they spent all there money or didn't get a degree, so I could see them being as unenthused as a guy like Hayensworth who cashed in big and didn't need to produce.
I also think Manziel will focus more in the NFL. In college, his goal was to get to the NFL, which required him to stand out above his peers on the field, and he has enough talent to do that in college. But in the pros, there is no next step other and you need more than talent. I hope he does well, especially since Filmnut needs something to cheer.
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