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Old 03-03-2011, 03:15 PM   #281
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Wow I guess the Vikings won't be moving to LA after all then, I wonder who will be going there since they seem to be renovating the stadium.
The Chargers are going to LA, it's a near-certainty. They are never getting a new stadium in the San Diego area, and their owners aren't willing to pay for a new stadium on their own. I can't say I blame them. They've never gotten great attendance in San Diego regardless of how good they were, and it makes sense to move to the second-biggest television market. LA already has 2 developers willing to build new stadiums so they should be able to get a new stadium with minimal taxpayer money. The NFL would like to get 2 teams in LA but I don't know who the other team would be if the Vikings stay in Minnesota. The Raiders and 49ers need new stadiums but I think they'll get them in their current areas, although it's possible they'll end up sharing a new stadium. The Jaguars will likely stay in Jacksonville, in large part because it'd be tough to break their lease plus attendance improved this year.
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Old 03-03-2011, 03:17 PM   #282
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he Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel confirms that AJ Hawk's re-signing "does not bode well" for Nick Barnett's future with the Packers.
Hawk's deal is expected to be worth $30-35 million over five years, and Barnett is due $6M in 2011, including salary and bonuses. Desmond Bishop and Hawk will be locked in as starters with Brandon Chillar returning as the top backup. Barnett can pretty safely expect his release later this offseason.
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Old 03-03-2011, 03:54 PM   #283
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Old 03-03-2011, 04:22 PM   #284
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with the ruling that the NFL can't get the TV money it's highly likely a lockout won't last near that long. I think the owners have a newer sense of urgency because a lot of owners can't afford to make their stadium payments without the TV money.
I dont get that.

The owners shouldve known that this would eventually get to that judge & he always sides with the players....even PFT said months ago that this is what the ruling would be....so shouldnt the owners have expected this outcome ?

They didnt make billions of $$ being stupid so what am i missing here ?
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Old 03-03-2011, 04:25 PM   #285
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I dont get that.

The owners shouldve known that this would eventually get to that judge & he always sides with the players....even PFT said months ago that this is what the ruling would be....so shouldnt the owners have expected this outcome ?

They didnt make billions of $$ being stupid so what am i missing here ?
It could just be a diversionary tactic, what surprises me even more is we're this close to the deadline and they only met for 4 hours yesterday, it's not like they had better things to do.
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:20 PM   #286
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I actually think the bigger problem is the revenue sharing among teams they currently have. It makes no sense that every team makes equal revenue from contracts. Why should the Bills, who didn't have a national TV game last year and played all 1:00 games, make as much as the Cowboys, Patriots, and Packers, who all played numerous national TV games. In addition, what sense does it make that owners like Jerry Jones and Bob Kraft paid for their new stadiums on their own, while you've got owners like the Bengals Mike Brown who paid nearly nothing for his stadium getting the same amount of revenue. It's similar to baseball in that some teams are spending money while other teams hardly spend any money and reap tens of millions of dollars each year for nothing.
Yeah really if I'm an owner like Jones or Snyder I'd rather pay for health care for a player who gave me service than give it to Mike Brown.

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They didnt make billions of $$ being stupid so what am i missing here ?
Obviously they just came in on something that's been established from prior generations these guys didn't put the work in to get people to watch it, but they are really dumb that they'd let their money market potentially dry up over some bs that's making them TONS as the agreement stands now.

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Doesn't mean it will happen, but owners pushing for an extension of talks. Players willing if owners make some concessions.

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
This is getting more interesting than most thought. Three sources: Extension of talks now a definite possibility.
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:37 PM   #288
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Good deal! hopefully it works out
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Old 03-03-2011, 06:25 PM   #289
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NFL owners have formally offered to extend CBA talks beyond Thursday's 11:59 p.m. deadline.
The union is waiting for assurance that the owners are serious about coming to an agreement before putting away their decertification card. Per SI's Jim Trotter, the extension must be agreed upon by 4:00 p.m. ET or the NFLPA will file to decertify. The talks, aimed at "stopping the clock" to continue negotiations, are described as "legit but fragile."
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Old 03-03-2011, 09:47 PM   #290
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The CBA deadline has been pushed back 24 hours.
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:08 PM   #291
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JaMarcus Russell -- Oakland Mansion in Foreclosure

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JaMarcus Russell -- widely regarded as the greatest bust in NFL history -- is in danger of losing the $2.4 million mansion he purchased after signing with the Raiders back in 2007 ... TMZ has learned.

According to documents obtained by TMZ -- foreclosure proceedings have begun on the former #1 overall draft pick's house ... after he allegedly failed to pay $195,512.05 in mortgage payments.

Now, if the unemployed QB doesn't cough up the cash in the next 3 months, the bank will put the home on the auction block.
http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/03/jamarc...l-qwuarterback

Not sure how reliable TMZ is.. but im sure we all saw this coming...
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:20 PM   #292
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The CBA deadline has been pushed back 24 hours.
why push it back? what will change in the next 24 hrs? my guess is they will keep pushing it back until there is a new deal

on another note the Jets cut Gholston the other day and today it came out in Gholston contract when he got his 1st sack he would of got 9M bonus , but he never got a sack
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:26 PM   #293
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JaMarcus Russell -- Oakland Mansion in Foreclosure



http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/03/jamarc...l-qwuarterback

Not sure how reliable TMZ is.. but im sure we all saw this coming...
lmao I'll never understand why someone who would make that much money wouldn't pay for their home outright, and god forbid something happens you'd only have to pay property taxes. not like that guy needs to have a mortgage.


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The CBA deadline has been pushed back 24 hours.

Good news.
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:29 PM   #294
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JaMarcus Russell -- Oakland Mansion in Foreclosure



http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/03/jamarc...l-qwuarterback

Not sure how reliable TMZ is.. but im sure we all saw this coming...
Well TMZ is far more accurate/reliable than ESPN, that's for damn sure. I trust TMZ more than most of the mainstream media. Can't say I'm surprised at all about JaMarcus. It was a guarantee that fool would be bankrupt in no time.

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Old 03-03-2011, 11:32 PM   #295
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That's good news for the Packers. A.J. Hawk may not have been worth $10 next season but he's definately worth $30-35 mill over 5 years. He's a very solid player.
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:35 PM   #296
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Well TMZ is far more accurate/reliable than ESPN, that's for damn sure. I trust TMZ more than most of the mainstream media.
The first time I heard about TMZ was the fire hydrant incident in Isleworth...
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The player's actually make about 50% of revenue, because the 59.6% they currently receive is after the NFL takes the first $1 billion of revenue. The NFL wants to increase the amount they take to $2 billion and decrease the percentage the players get.

I actually think the bigger problem is the revenue sharing among teams they currently have. It makes no sense that every team makes equal revenue from contracts. Why should the Bills, who didn't have a national TV game last year and played all 1:00 games, make as much as the Cowboys, Patriots, and Packers, who all played numerous national TV games. In addition, what sense does it make that owners like Jerry Jones and Bob Kraft paid for their new stadiums on their own, while you've got owners like the Bengals Mike Brown who paid nearly nothing for his stadium getting the same amount of revenue. It's similar to baseball in that some teams are spending money while other teams hardly spend any money and reap tens of millions of dollars each year for nothing.
It is very simple if teams like the bills did not get that money they would not exist. that is the big advantage the NFL has over MLB if things do not change in baseball soon they are going to loose some teams that can't compete with the likes of the yankees who can go and blow 200 mill a year on players.
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:44 PM   #298
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The first time I heard about TMZ was the fire hydrant incident in Isleworth...
And that's the thing. TMZ usually beats the mainstream news on breaking stories. They broke the Tiger Woods car accident hours before anyone else picked up on it.
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:48 PM   #299
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It is very simple if teams like the bills did not get that money they would not exist. that is the big advantage the NFL has over MLB if things do not change in baseball soon they are going to loose some teams that can't compete with the likes of the yankees who can go and blow 200 mill a year on players.
Actually a lot of those bottom-feeder MLB teams are flush with cash. The owners love to claim poverty when in reality they are turning big profits thanks to collecting luxury taxes from the big market teams. The Pittsburgh Pirates got busted a few years ago when someone leaked their finances that showed the team was making $30 mill+ in profits each year despite spending almost nothing to make the team competitive. It's pro sports' dirty little secret - many team owners get rich by purposely neglecting their team.

As much as I hate teams like the Yankees at least their owners actually care about fielding a top-notch team. Owners of teams like the Pirates disgust me far more by claiming poverty and neglecting their team when they are really raking in huge profits.

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Finally a football analyst that sees what most of us football fans see when we look at Cam Newton and the ridiculous overhype surrounding his chances in the NFL. And this guy doesn't even go into Newton's glaring character issues.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft...26id%3d6178028

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As valuable as size, speed and strength are, they do have limitations when evaluating players. Pro football history is full of imposing physical specimens who didn't pan out because they had some weaknesses that more than offset their elite physical attributes (e.g. Brian Bosworth, Mike Mamula, Lawrence Phillips).


Despite the clear historical warnings, in just about every draft there are teams that will select a player based on his physical attributes, ignoring his glaring football deficiencies.


The 2010 Denver Broncos offered a good example of this when they drafted last year's somewhat flawed quarterbacking phenom, Tim Tebow. The recent comments of John Elway, one of the Broncos' new head honchos and a man who knows a thing or two about quarterbacking, that Tebow is still "very raw," even after a year in the system, say their organization is probably going through a serious case of buyer's remorse.

This is something that teams should keep in mind when considering drafting former Auburn Tigers quarterback Cam Newton in the first round of the 2011 NFL draft. His physical characteristics are off the charts (6-foot-5, 248 pounds, 4.59 40-yard dash time), but a tape review of his 2010 season shows several significant weaknesses that make him more than a bit of a first-round risk.
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