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Old 11-05-2013, 04:54 PM   #42621
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Ponder will be in this week they said already
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Old 11-05-2013, 05:09 PM   #42622
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According to ESPN Milwaukee, the Packers are still concerned that waived QB Matt Flynn has arm issues.
Flynn's elbow problems have caused his already noodled arm to become even more withered. As Ed Werder reported a month ago, it's part of the reason the Packers didn't sign Flynn after the Raiders released him in early October. So even though Aaron Rodgers' ex-backup was waived by the Bills Monday, a claim from Green Bay is not expected. For now, they appear content to ride with Seneca Wallace while Rodgers' collarbone heals up.
Source - http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4949/matt-flynn
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Old 11-05-2013, 05:12 PM   #42623
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If it's only 3 weeks Packers could theoretically be fine against bad/sub-par teams. Who knows, the way this year is playing out a Jets/Bears super bowl wouldn't surprise me.
Ha ha... LOL.... Jets ... ha ha. It would sure surprise me. Plus I don't think I would bother to watch except maybe just the highlight reel ... maybe.
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Old 11-05-2013, 05:21 PM   #42624
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If it's only 3 weeks Packers could theoretically be fine against bad/sub-par teams. Who knows, the way this year is playing out a Jets/Bears super bowl wouldn't surprise me.
Jets can't be in it.. They only win every other week
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Old 11-05-2013, 05:27 PM   #42625
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Ponder will be in this week they said already
Nothing like the utterly pathetic Cowboys defense to convince a team to keep going with a mediocre QB.
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Old 11-05-2013, 05:43 PM   #42626
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Gary Kubiak released from hospital. Unknown when he will return to coach.

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/ar...6-111185aef5be
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Old 11-05-2013, 05:58 PM   #42627
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Jets can't be in it.. They only win every other week
Just in case is the SB on a even or odd week for them?...

We still don't know if they can lose during the bye also that would flip things.

Doesn't matter I guess because you can't lose often in the playoffs.
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Old 11-05-2013, 09:58 PM   #42628
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This whole Dolphins thing is ridiculous. Incognito probably went too far but, Jonathan Martin should've responded like a Dez Bryant (vs Roy Williams) and just confronted the guy face to face. Now other players are going to think he's soft, what he did doesn't fit with the culture.
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Old 11-05-2013, 10:06 PM   #42629
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This whole Dolphins thing is ridiculous. Incognito probably went too far but, Jonathan Martin should've responded like a Dez Bryant (vs Roy Williams) and just confronted the guy face to face. Now other players are going to think he's soft, what he did doesn't fit with the culture.
Yeah, what Incognito was doing to him was horrible but he needed to stand up for himself. You can't let yourself be treated like that, respect yourself more than that.
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Old 11-05-2013, 10:27 PM   #42630
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Yeah, what Incognito was doing to him was horrible but he needed to stand up for himself. You can't let yourself be treated like that, respect yourself more than that.
What martin did is the equivalent of getting knocked down on the field, staying down, and then telling the refs to put a stop to it
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Old 11-05-2013, 11:22 PM   #42631
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What martin did is the equivalent of getting knocked down on the field, staying down, and then telling the refs to put a stop to it
Terrible analogy. While I'm sure martin could have handled the situation better, and by either standing up to Incognito or talking to other players/coaches it could have been dealt with better. Putting the blame on the victim is wrong, if Richie wasn't being a douchebag in the first place there wouldn't be a problem. Do you really think those texts and voice mails were appropriate? It sounds like Martin is wired differently (As is Incognito for that matter...) but it's very easy to say he should have done this or that without being there or not having all the facts.
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Old 11-05-2013, 11:27 PM   #42632
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What martin did is the equivalent of getting knocked down on the field, staying down, and then telling the refs to put a stop to it
Would you have preferred him to confront and get into a fist fight with the guy? What if Incognito is crazy enough to go after him after the fight? What if they fought and Martin accidentally killed him? Hell, what if it were intentional because of the heat of the moment? We don't know what else was going on. We're hearing what the NFL is allowing us to hear. I'm glad he took the safe option and walked away. Less messy.
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Old 11-05-2013, 11:54 PM   #42633
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You're looking at this as regular joes.

There's nothing the league hates more than signs of weakness and to some players, that's what happened here.

Maybe it is unfair, but that's how the league works.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...-belong-in-nfl
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Old 11-06-2013, 12:58 AM   #42634
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What martin did is the equivalent of getting knocked down on the field, staying down, and then telling the refs to put a stop to it
Like the other guy said, that's a horrible analogy. Do you think players on other teams regularly voicemail their teammates threaten them (and their mothers) and call them racist names? Get out of here with that.

Also, don't forget Incognito forcing him to give him $15,000 to fund a trip to Vegas.

While Martin is probably more sensitive to this stuff than others and wont be the person to stand up or fight back (plus who wants to fight Incognito) I'm tired of people blaming the victim. How can you people stand up for this pathetic human being Incognito?
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:20 AM   #42635
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Like the other guy said, that's a horrible analogy. Do you think players on other teams regularly voicemail their teammates threaten them (and their mothers) and call them racist names? Get out of here with that.

Also, don't forget Incognito forcing him to give him $15,000 to fund a trip to Vegas.

While Martin is probably more sensitive to this stuff than others and wont be the person to stand up or fight back (plus who wants to fight Incognito) I'm tired of people blaming the victim. How can you people stand up for this pathetic human being Incognito?
No one is standing up for Incognito, he's a horrible human being. But Martin needed to stand up for himself, you can't allow yourself to be bullied like that. Make a stand.
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:32 AM   #42636
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No one is standing up for Incognito, he's a horrible human being. But Martin needed to stand up for himself, you can't allow yourself to be bullied like that. Make a stand.
Easier said than done. And it's still victim blaming.
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:43 AM   #42637
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Like the other guy said, that's a horrible analogy. Do you think players on other teams regularly voicemail their teammates threaten them (and their mothers) and call them racist names? Get out of here with that.

Also, don't forget Incognito forcing him to give him $15,000 to fund a trip to Vegas.

While Martin is probably more sensitive to this stuff than others and wont be the person to stand up or fight back (plus who wants to fight Incognito) I'm tired of people blaming the victim. How can you people stand up for this pathetic human being Incognito?
the analogy refers to how Martin handled the situation, no one is defending Incognito

worse things have been said yet never made the press

allegedly Dolphins coaches told Incognito to toughen up Martin... and Martin is in a unique position to handle this situation as his parent is a lawyer specializing in labor, big lawsuit could be coming

btw how does someone force another to give up 15k?
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:47 AM   #42638
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the analogy refers to how Martin handled the situation, no one is defending Incognito

worse things have been said yet never made the press

allegedly Dolphins coaches told Incognito to toughen up Martin... and Martin is in a unique position to handle this situation as his parent is a lawyer specializing in labor, big lawsuit could be coming

btw how does someone force another to give up 15k?
I don't know the exact details, but I read that happened. And Martin feared the consequences if he didn't.
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:52 AM   #42639
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Gotta love Romo

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Old 11-06-2013, 02:37 AM   #42640
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Like the other guy said, that's a horrible analogy. Do you think players on other teams regularly voicemail their teammates threaten them (and their mothers) and call them racist names? Get out of here with that.

Also, don't forget Incognito forcing him to give him $15,000 to fund a trip to Vegas.

While Martin is probably more sensitive to this stuff than others and wont be the person to stand up or fight back (plus who wants to fight Incognito) I'm tired of people blaming the victim. How can you people stand up for this pathetic human being Incognito?
I would hope not. But after listening to so many Dolphins players (many black) defend Incognito I'm starting to think it really is common and players are too ignorant to even realize it's wrong.
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