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Old 02-11-2015, 05:51 PM   #59141
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Seen a few mocks now that have winston 1 & mariota 6:

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Old 02-11-2015, 10:07 PM   #59142
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Seen a few mocks now that have winston 1 & mariota 6:

Not surprised at all to see Mariota slipping on their boards. He's a bust in the waiting (unless he goes to Philly). Winston was always the better prospect. It's just the character concerns that worry people the most.

If Winston is available for us at #2, I fully support us taking him. And I say that as one of the few Titans fans who like Mettenberger.

I highly doubt the Bucs will pass on him though. He's the best NFL QB prospect since Luck. He reminds me of a combo of Ruthlessraper/McNair.

If and when the Bucs do take Winston, we damn well better try whatever we can do to trade back and acquire more picks. If we are forced to pick, Leonard Williams has to be the pick.

Damn the Bucs for purposely blowing a 20-7 4th quarter lead to secure the #1 pick week 17.
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Old 02-11-2015, 10:09 PM   #59143
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HOF game is vikes/steelers.

Figures since the bus is going in + steelers probably wanted that 5th game to work in new DC.
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Old 02-11-2015, 11:29 PM   #59144
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Not surprised at all to see Mariota slipping on their boards. He's a bust in the waiting (unless he goes to Philly). Winston was always the better prospect. It's just the character concerns that worry people the most.

If Winston is available for us at #2, I fully support us taking him. And I say that as one of the few Titans fans who like Mettenberger.

I highly doubt the Bucs will pass on him though. He's the best NFL QB prospect since Luck. He reminds me of a combo of Ruthlessraper/McNair.

If and when the Bucs do take Winston, we damn well better try whatever we can do to trade back and acquire more picks. If we are forced to pick, Leonard Williams has to be the pick.

Damn the Bucs for purposely blowing a 20-7 4th quarter lead to secure the #1 pick week 17.
I really hope mariota falls and jets grAb him.

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Old 02-12-2015, 12:23 AM   #59145
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I really hope marital falls and jets grAb him.
They'll more than likely take him if he's there... But the further he slips the more likely Chip Kelly gets to pulling the trigger on a trade.

I used to think I'd want Mariota more than Winston... Then I started watching them both play very closely.

It wasn't even close... Winston had to throw into tighter windows pretty often while Mariota hasn't done that but a handful of times.

Mariota hasn't taken a snap from under center in college, and every QB in that cheesy Oregon system has done well. Mariota has just done way better than the other QBs. But that's not saying much.

I won't be too happy if the Titans get Mariota, but I would understand the reasoning behind it, and it would, at least, bring us some sort of hype. He also wouldn't have to start immediately.

IMO Mettenberger > Mariota. People will think I'm a homer for saying that, but that's how little I'm expecting of Mariota. He's Kaepernick (who's fallen off the face of the planet) at best.
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Old 02-12-2015, 12:39 AM   #59146
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IMO Mettenberger > Mariota. People will think I'm a homer for saying that, but that's how little I'm expecting of Mariota. He's Kaepernick (who's fallen off the face of the planet) at best.
I think even that comparison will be pushing it
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Old 02-12-2015, 01:04 AM   #59147
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I think even that comparison will be pushing it
I agree... That's why I said at best!

I really bought into the Kaep hype when he started his first game against the Bears in 2012... And he just kept impressing me, especially in the playoffs.

Maybe he can get it going again, but it's not looking promising.
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Old 02-12-2015, 01:06 AM   #59148
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I agree... That's why I said at best!

I really bought into the Kaep hype when he started his first game against the Bears in 2012... And he just kept impressing me, especially in the playoffs.

Maybe he can get it going again, but it's not looking promising.
I bought into that hype...RG3 hype when i shouldn't have
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Old 02-12-2015, 04:37 AM   #59149
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As a Dallas Cowboy fan, I welcome Adrian Peterson, should he come to Texas to play football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story...n-peterson-nfl
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Old 02-12-2015, 02:51 PM   #59150
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As a Dallas Cowboy fan, I welcome Adrian Peterson, should he come to Texas to play football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story...n-peterson-nfl
The problem with that scenario is who knows when (and if) Peterson becomes available. He's not eligible to apply for reinstatement until April 15, so barring a change to that date (which Peterson is trying to get moved up) Peterson definitely won't be available at the start of free agency. This means that the Cowboys can't negotiate with Peterson as a backup plan or replacement for Murray. There's also no bonuses in Peterson's contract due during the offseason so the Vikings don't have any sort of date that will force them to decide whether or not they'll release Peterson. There's a very real possibility that they could keep him until into training camp and then try to force him to take a pay cut or be released. It's not a sure thing the Vikings release Peterson either. If they cut Greg Jennings they'd be roughly $20 million under the cap so they won't have to release Peterson.
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Old 02-12-2015, 03:11 PM   #59151
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The problem with that scenario is who knows when (and if) Peterson becomes available. He's not eligible to apply for reinstatement until April 15, so barring a change to that date (which Peterson is trying to get moved up) Peterson definitely won't be available at the start of free agency. This means that the Cowboys can't negotiate with Peterson as a backup plan or replacement for Murray. There's also no bonuses in Peterson's contract due during the offseason so the Vikings don't have any sort of date that will force them to decide whether or not they'll release Peterson. There's a very real possibility that they could keep him until into training camp and then try to force him to take a pay cut or be released. It's not a sure thing the Vikings release Peterson either. If they cut Greg Jennings they'd be roughly $20 million under the cap so they won't have to release Peterson.
I see this exact scenario playing out. I think they cut or restructure Jennings and Chad Greenway (8.8mil cap hit). That way they have cap space to keep Peterson at his current salary, and if they want to restructure him, they have all the leverage.
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Old 02-13-2015, 01:18 AM   #59152
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As a Dallas Cowboy fan, I welcome Adrian Peterson, should he come to Texas to play football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story...n-peterson-nfl
As a Cowboy fan, is it wrong of me that I don't want Peterson because of his age and mileage. I would rather have Murray right now.
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Old 02-13-2015, 01:50 AM   #59153
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Damn, Saints are going to have to make some BIG cuts. They're currently projected at $28 million over the cap.
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Old 02-13-2015, 02:05 AM   #59154
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Damn, Saints are going to have to make some BIG cuts. They're currently projected at $28 million over the cap.
You can thank Byrd and Brees for that.

Evans, Colston, Cameron Jordan, and Curtis Lofton all save 4+ million each. That's roughly 21 million for the four.
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Old 02-13-2015, 03:43 AM   #59155
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Damn, Saints are going to have to make some BIG cuts. They're currently projected at $28 million over the cap.
serves them right

20m cap hit for a pair of guards LOL
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Old 02-13-2015, 12:59 PM   #59156
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Damn, Saints are going to have to make some BIG cuts. They're currently projected at $28 million over the cap.
The Saints thought they had a Super Bowl caliber team and were just a few pieces away so they went all-in last season in free agency knowing it would completely screw up their future cap. They are going to have to do something to get Brees' salary cap number way down, but the only way they'll be able to truly do that is by giving him a huge extension with a lot of guaranteed money, and that's probably not the smartest move with a 36-year-old who has shown signs of decline. The other option would be to convert most of Brees' 2015 salary into a signing bonus, but since he's only got 2 years left on his contract that would only drop his cap number to about $18 million and that would lead to Brees having about a $36 million cap number in 2016 (or about $17 million if they cut him after the 2015 season).
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Old 02-13-2015, 01:05 PM   #59157
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The Saints thought they had a Super Bowl caliber team and were just a few pieces away so they went all-in last season in free agency knowing it would completely screw up their future cap. They are going to have to do something to get Brees' salary cap number way down, but the only way they'll be able to truly do that is by giving him a huge extension with a lot of guaranteed money, and that's probably not the smartest move with a 36-year-old who has shown signs of decline. The other option would be to convert most of Brees' 2015 salary into a signing bonus, but since he's only got 2 years left on his contract that would only drop his cap number to about $18 million and that would lead to Brees having about a $36 million cap number in 2016 (or about $17 million if they cut him after the 2015 season).
Or, pull the pin and roll the grenade in the room.
Unless they hit multiple homeruns in the draft, and by that I mean have a three way tie for RotY on their own team, I just can't see them being competitive, let alone a Championship caliber team. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
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Old 02-13-2015, 08:06 PM   #59158
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It's still early in the process, but a lot of people seem to be cooling on Amari Cooper. While Parker and White seem to be rising rapidly on the draft boards.
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It's still early in the process, but a lot of people seem to be cooling on Amari Cooper. While Parker and White seem to be rising rapidly on the draft boards.
I still think Amari is the safest bet at WR. Might not end up being the best of the bunch, but I'd still make him the first WR off the board. People seem worried since he's not a very tall "true #1" type of WR.

Kevin White I have a really hard time trusting. I have always loathed WVU prospects. I cannot think of one who has been any good other than Pacman (and he was a big bust for us, despite being a solid player for the Bengals now).

I like Parker and I think he'll be good. I also like Dorial Green-Beckham a lot and consider him to have the highest upside of any WR in the draft.
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I still think Amari is the safest bet at WR. Might not end up being the best of the bunch, but I'd still make him the first WR off the board. People seem worried since he's not a very tall "true #1" type of WR.

Kevin White I have a really hard time trusting. I have always loathed WVU prospects. I cannot think of one who has been any good other than Pacman (and he was a big bust for us, despite being a solid player for the Bengals now).

I like Parker and I think he'll be good. I also like Dorial Green-Beckham a lot and consider him to have the highest upside of any WR in the draft.
Green-Beckham is the most talented for sure. Some team is going to reach for him and truly get a boom or bust pick. If he can clean up his act, which is no guarantee, he is going to be a hugely productive NFL receiver.
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