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Old 09-23-2016, 12:26 PM   #70301
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Why did I go against New England? I should have known. This is why I have huge respect for Bill, the man is a football genius.
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Old 09-23-2016, 12:43 PM   #70302
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New England is 3-0, without Brady. Doing so with a back up AND 3rd string QB. Oh yeah, and no Gronk.

Must be cheating...right? It has to be? They can't just be an elite organization, top to bottom...right.

Backupgate?
Benchplayergate?

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Old 09-23-2016, 12:50 PM   #70303
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New England is 3-0, without Brady. Doing so with a back up AND 3rd string QB. Oh yeah, and no Gronk.

Must be cheating...right? It has to be? They can't just be an elite organization, top to bottom...right.

Backupgate?
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Must be the PSI.
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Old 09-23-2016, 01:05 PM   #70304
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new england is 3-0, without brady. Doing so with a back up and 3rd string qb. Oh yeah, and no gronk.

Must be cheating...right? It has to be? They can't just be an elite organization, top to bottom...right.

Backupgate?
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#otherteamsjustaren'tgoodenoughtobeatthemgate
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Old 09-23-2016, 01:12 PM   #70305
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It was fun watching one of the greatest coaches of our generation put together a brilliant gameplan and watch it executed with perfection.

Belichick and McDaniels did an excellent job setting up Brissett for success and completely taking Watt and Clowney out of the game. On the defensive side, they used safety coverage to limit the speed of Hopkins and Fuller. Belichick makes it look so easy.
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Old 09-23-2016, 01:20 PM   #70306
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Austin Seferian-Jenkins was arrested and charged with DUI Friday morning.
Seferian-Jenkins was stopped by Florida Highway Patrol around 4 AM and booked at the Orient Road Jail around 6 AM. It's his second DUI after being busted for one in 2013 while he was still in college. ASJ had an offseason full of letdowns, from being kicked out of practice in the spring to losing his starting job to Cameron Brate. This could be the final straw for him in Tampa Bay.
Source - http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/...ferian-jenkins
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Old 09-23-2016, 01:21 PM   #70307
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New England is 3-0, without Brady. Doing so with a back up AND 3rd string QB. Oh yeah, and no Gronk.

Must be cheating...right? It has to be? They can't just be an elite organization, top to bottom...right.

Backupgate?
Benchplayergate?

Yo, Detroit, take some lessons.
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Old 09-23-2016, 01:22 PM   #70308
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Yo, Detroit, take some lessons.
Detroit is now and always will be one of the worst franchises in the NFL, brief respite in the 90s when Barry was in his prime aside.
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Old 09-23-2016, 01:23 PM   #70309
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Looks like we now have a pattern. He's got two, very simple, choices:

1) Get help and be 100% committed to changing his ways, and possibly have a career, in the NFL.
2) Do nothing and be gone.
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Old 09-23-2016, 01:24 PM   #70310
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Looks like we now have a pattern. He's got two, very simple, choices:

1) Get help and be 100% committed to changing his ways, and possibly have a career, in the NFL.
2) Do nothing and be gone.
Same for Randy Gregory, Dallas really needs to stop spending premium second round draft picks on such risky players.
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Old 09-23-2016, 01:27 PM   #70311
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New England is 3-0, without Brady. Doing so with a back up AND 3rd string QB. Oh yeah, and no Gronk.

Must be cheating...right? It has to be? They can't just be an elite organization, top to bottom...right.

Backupgate?
Benchplayergate?

I’m so happy this has unfolded the way it has. Maybe now the media & bitter fans of rival teams can finally cut the crap with all of this “they cheated” crap. I’ve been saying it all along, the media is what turned Pats fans into obnoxious loud mouths. We have constantly had to defend them for the last 10 years! If Goodell wasn’t so hellbent on tarnishing the Pats, none of this deflategate crap would’ve ever come about. I mean come on, who the hell actually believed that the Pats purposely deflated a friggin football, and that in some universe it would somehow give them that crazy advantage by doing so!

Bill Belichick flat out is the greatest football mind in the game, he has always just been one step ahead of the curve. Not sure why this was so hard to believe all of these years for the media.
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Old 09-23-2016, 01:30 PM   #70312
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Detroit is now and always will be one of the worst franchises in the NFL, brief respite in the 90s when Barry was in his prime aside.
No.
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Old 09-23-2016, 01:31 PM   #70313
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Same for Randy Gregory, Dallas really needs to stop spending premium second round draft picks on such risky players.
I agree! Philly gambled on a few red flag guys this draft, I hope for everyone involved it works out, but I'm a little leery!
Seems like that's part of today's NFL climate: "selling your soul to the devil".
I'm sure it's happened over the decades, but nowadays with social media and all news be near instant, we are finding out more than we did before, I believe.
Kind of concerning, as it always irks me when the stud player with red flags bumps the bubble guy who is probably willing to play is ass off for just a roster spot. I know the NFL wants super stars, but there are so many non-red flag players out there that get limited, or no, chances because of the talent.
A slippery slope, I'm sure, but something that has never sat well with me.
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Old 09-23-2016, 01:44 PM   #70314
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Patriots were better in every phase of the game. Even the Bud Light Patriot beer can was better than the Texans beer can.
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Old 09-23-2016, 01:47 PM   #70315
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I’m so happy this has unfolded the way it has. Maybe now the media & bitter fans of rival teams can finally cut the crap with all of this “they cheated” crap. I’ve been saying it all along, the media is what turned Pats fans into obnoxious loud mouths. We have constantly had to defend them for the last 10 years! If Goodell wasn’t so hellbent on tarnishing the Pats, none of this deflategate crap would’ve ever come about. I mean come on, who the hell actually believed that the Pats purposely deflated a friggin football, and that in some universe it would somehow give them that crazy advantage by doing so!

Bill Belichick flat out is the greatest football mind in the game, he has always just been one step ahead of the curve. Not sure why this was so hard to believe all of these years for the media.
I'm a Philly fan, and supposedly the Eagles were one of the victims of Spygate. I say BS. We played the SB hard, and just came up short in the end.
Furthermore I read an interesting article that compared the Pats, during the Brady and Belichek era only, using the spygate claims as a divider. I believe it was 7 years prior(during spygate) and the 7 years after(no more spygate)...you know what the two sets of records were nearly identical. In fact I think they had a few more wins AFTER spygate, in that time frame.
Sorry, they are just good. They always have been.
I get it fans of other division teams are bitter, because they have had some good teams but not good enough. Lol, as a Philly fan we had a pretty good team in the late 80s/early 90s, but Dallas was historically good! It's called a dynasty.
New England is the current dynasty. Every level of the organization is run better than everyone else....for a long time!
It's not coincidence. It's not chance. It's not any of these dumb "gates". It's all about numbers. New England drafts very well. They have a great owner. They have one of the greatest coaches ever. Then when you get past all that, oh yeah, they have Tom Brady! Lol!
Look at all the punishment they have edured, yet they are still there...every year!
Again, not a Pats fan, just giving credit where credit is due.
Heck all the above could probably be said about teams like: Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Green Bay and Denver too, sans the "gate" part.
Just look at all the WR's that have left Pittsburgh!
They are all very well run organizations. Gold standard stuff.

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Heck all the above could probably be said about teams like: Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Green Bay and Denver too, sans the "gate" part.
Just look at all the WR's that have left Pittsburgh!
They are all very well run organizations. Gold standard stuff.
You forgot Cleveland
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I'm a Philly fan, and supposedly the Eagles were one of the victims of Spygate. I say BS. We played the SB hard, and just came up short in the end.
Furthermore I read an interesting article that compared the Pats, during the Brady and Belichek era only, using the spygate claims as a divider. I believe it was 7 years prior(during spygate) and the 7 years after(no more spygate)...you know what the two sets of records were nearly identical. In fact I think they had a few more wins AFTER spygate, in that time frame.
Sorry, they are just good. They always have been.
I get it fans of other division teams are bitter, because they have had some good teams but not good enough. Lol, as a Philly fan we had a pretty good team in the late 80s/early 90s, but Dallas was historically good! It's called a dynasty.
New England is the current dynasty. Every level of the organization is run better than everyone else....for a long time!
It's not coincidence. It's not chance. It's not any of these dumb "gates". It's all about numbers. New England drafts very well. They have a great owner. They have one of the greatest coaches ever. Then when you get past all that, oh yeah, they have Tom Brady! Lol!
Look at all the punishment they have edured, yet they are still there...every year!
Again, not a Pats fan, just giving credit where credit is due.
Heck all the above could probably be said about teams like: Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Green Bay and Denver too, sans the "gate" part.
Just look at all the WR's that have left Pittsburgh!
They are all very well run organizations. Gold standard stuff.

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P.S. Had Terrell Owens been 100% & Donovan Mcnabb played better, that SB could've gone Philly's way.
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Just because they won a game with a 3rd string QB that somehow negates their cheating . That's like saying I didn't cheat on my math test last week because I studied really hard for this current one... They cheated twice. It is what it is lol.

Yeah just like the other lady who took hammers to her mobile devices. Sure she was just testing the durability like Brady was lol.
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Just because they won a game with a 3rd string QB that somehow negates their cheating . That's like saying I didn't cheat on my math test last week because I studied really hard for this current one... They cheated twice. It is what it is lol.

Yeah just like the other lady who took hammers to her mobile devices. Sure she was just testing the durability like Brady was lol.
Dude, let it go man.
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That's the history of the Pats and always will be. Gotta embrace it. Can't change history because you want it to not be true lol.
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