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View Poll Results: Which team will win Super Bowl LIV
San Francisco 49ers 28 50.91%
Kansas City Chiefs 27 49.09%
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Old 01-03-2017, 11:55 PM   #74801
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I can see someone trading up to #1 to land Garrett or Trubisky. The Browns could rake in another wealth of quality draft picks if they trade down. Cleveland needs help at so many positions it would make sense if they can get multiple 1st/2nd round picks for the #1.
I would agree with you, and that's what they should do. But Cleveland can't draft. Giving them more picks, as they've done a few times recently, has not done them any good.
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Woohooo! Brian Dawkins made the cut to 15 HoF finalists.
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Old 01-04-2017, 12:30 AM   #74803
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Woohooo! Brian Dawkins made the cut to 15 HoF finalists.
So did your boy Terrell Owens. No idea how Brian Dawkins made the cut but Darren Woodson didn't.
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Old 01-04-2017, 12:31 AM   #74804
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I really hope Kurt Warner makes it this year. One of my favorite non Bills players of all time.
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I really hope Kurt Warner makes it this year. One of my favorite non Bills players of all time.
I'm of the unpopular opinion he's a better QB than Brett Favre.
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Old 01-04-2017, 12:33 AM   #74806
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I'm of the unpopular opinion he's a better QB than Brett Favre.
Favre had a better career
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Old 01-04-2017, 12:35 AM   #74807
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So did your boy Terrell Owens. No idea how Brian Dawkins made the cut but Darren Woodson didn't.
Lol, he's more your boy than mine. "That's my QB man"

While Woodson has three rings, he was not "the guy" on those championship teams. Also Dawkins stats blow Woodson's away. So on could argue Dawkins didn't have as good a team around him but produced more.
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Lol, he's more your boy than mine. "That's my QB man"

While Woodson has three rings, he was not "the guy" on those championship teams. Also Dawkins stats blow Woodson away. So on could argue Dawkins didn't have as good a team around him but produced more.
Darren Woodson was a converted linebacker that (I believe) has our franchise record in tackles. Not to mention he was versatile enough to play slot corner, something most safeties cannot do effectively.
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Darren Woodson was a converted linebacker that (I believe) has our franchise record in tackles. Not to mention he was versatile enough to play slot corner, something most safeties cannot do effectively.
Sure but that's, most likely, not Hall worthy in the voters eyes, and I would agree with them.
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Woodson > Dawkins imo

But it's completely subjective
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Odds to win the NFC championship game (via @BovadaLV):

Cowboys 3-2
Falcons 7-2
Packers 7-2
Seahawks 11-2
Giants 8-1
Lions 33-1
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Sounds about right to me.
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Old 01-04-2017, 12:41 AM   #74812
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TO should get in this time around. He should have last year.
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TO should get in this time around. He should have last year.
He will get in eventually but he was a locker room cancer and a head case so he might wait awhile.
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Old 01-04-2017, 12:43 AM   #74814
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Brian Dawkins resume. Just needed a ring to be a lock!

9× Pro Bowl (1999, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2011)
6× All-Pro (1999, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2009)
20/20 Club
The first player in NFL history to record a sack, an interception, forced fumble, and touchdown reception in a single game
The first player in NFL history to record at least 30 interceptions and 30 forced fumbles.
"Whizzer" White NFL Man of the Year (2008)
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Has forced 36 fumbles, the most ever by a safety in NFL history
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TO should get in this time around. He should have last year.
Nope! His attitude cost him a first ballot, and I agree 100%
Integrity and how you conduct yourself while in the league factor in just as much as rings and stats.
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Brian Dawkins resume. Just needed a ring to be a lock!

9× Pro Bowl (1999, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2011)
6× All-Pro (1999, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2009)
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Has forced 36 fumbles, the most ever by a safety in NFL history
FWIW I thought Dawkins and Jevon Kearse were the heart and soul of those great Jim Johnson defenses but I never thought he was better than Darren Woodson. Always thought they were pretty equal in talent.
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Nope! His attitude cost him a first ballot, and I agree 100%
Integrity and how you conduct yourself while in the league factor in just as much as rings and stats.
That's exactly why I think Michael Irvin shouldn't be in the hall, character and personal conduct should factor into the voting just as much as career accomplishments.
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FWIW I thought Dawkins and Jevon Kearse were the heart and soul of those great Jim Johnson defenses but I never thought he was better than Darren Woodson. Always thought they were pretty equal in talent.
Lol! Kearse was a borderline bust.
Dawkins definitely had more talent as the stats show. He was largely all by himself, as Philly never had decent CBs. While Woodsen was surrounded by a wealth of talent. Not a knock on him, just that he's a victim of the teams success. Kind of like Joe Jacoby not getting in despite being on one of the best OL in the history of the game.
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That's exactly why I think Michael Irvin shouldn't be in the hall, character and personal conduct should factor into the voting just as much as career accomplishments.
Finally we agree on something!
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Most likely Super Bowl matchups via @BovadaLV:

1-Cowboys vs. Patriots
2-Falcons vs. Patriots
3-Packers vs. Patriots
4-Seahawks vs. Patriots
Source - Twitter

Jeez, no love for the Steelers or Chiefs.
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