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Old 10-02-2017, 06:55 PM   #84881
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Please tell us who the decent QBs are then.
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Old 10-02-2017, 07:06 PM   #84882
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Old 10-02-2017, 07:07 PM   #84883
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Yeah so is joe Flacco and he has thrown 1 TD in 4 games. Some players have good seasons doesn’t make them good players.

Remember Fitzpatrick’s great season with the jets. 12 million later you learned the truth.
So to be clear, you think Flacco, Eli and Wilson are all garbage QBs despite having 4 SB rings amongst them? Who's next, Roethlisberger? If that's the case, who do you think is actually a good QB (outside of Tommy Sparklepony obviously)?

I would hope so, it was only like 2 years ago. Anyway, some of us already knew what Fitzy was i. e. a journeyman QB who might be able to win a few games, but was mostly a bridge type guy or placeholder for his successor. Thing is, he played WAY out of his head on a team with grizzled veterans who also played well above what they had shown previously and duped the front office into thinking he was actually good and could keep it up. That's why when he pulled the sh*t he did prior to last year's season and the front office caved and paid him, NYJ fans collectively groaned.
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Old 10-02-2017, 07:08 PM   #84884
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Holy sh*t that's great.

Love this one too:



Someone please Photoshop a cigarette in his mouth.

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Old 10-02-2017, 07:09 PM   #84885
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So to be clear, you think Flacco, Eli and Wilson are all garbage QBs despite having 4 SB rings amongst them? Who's next, Roethlisberger? If that's the case, who do you think is actually a good QB (outside of Tommy Sparklepony obviously)?

I would hope so, it was only like 2 years ago. Anyway, some of us already knew what Fitzy was i. e. a journeyman QB who might be able to win a few games, but was mostly a bridge type guy or placeholder for his successor. Thing is, he played WAY out of his head on a team with grizzled veterans who also played well above what they had shown previously and duped the front office into thinking he was actually good and could keep it up. That's why when he pulled the sh*t he did prior to last year's season and the front office caved and paid him, NYJ fans collectively groaned.
Brady
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Luck
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Rivers (but looking old)
Cussins
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Rodgers
Everyone in NFC south

Waiting judgement on rookie and second year players.
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The Fish got fleeced pretty good too.
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Old 10-02-2017, 07:32 PM   #84887
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Apparently Sam Darnold is going to stay in school so I wonder what the narrative will be for the NYJ fan tank brigade now?
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Everyone in NFC south

Waiting judgement on rookie and second year players.
So if you consider those 12 to be good/elite I'd say that it's probably more fair to say that Eli, Flacco and Wilson are at least decent/serviceable considering that they have all won at least one SB ring and that you still have McCown, Cutler, Palmer, Hoyer, Bortles, Glennon (up until today), et al still floating around the league in starting QB roles.
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Flacco and Eli are in the 15-20 range.
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So if you consider those 12 to be good/elite I'd say that it's probably more fair to say that Eli, Flacco and Wilson are at least decent/serviceable considering that they have all won at least one SB ring and that you still have McCown, Cutler, Palmer, Hoyer, Bortles, Glennon (up until today), et al still floating around the league in starting QB roles.
Wilson is carried by that D (defense scored 9 points alone in the bowl, which would have won it). Flacco got lucky with boldin and Jones making him look good. Flacco just throws it up and relies totally on WR to win. Think about that D and who he had to win that bowl. Eli also relies on his WRs to make him look good I mean that D shut down Brady and Eli needed insane catches. Now OBJ has to save him and without him we saw how bad he is. Glennon was a back up for years and we all thought 15 million was crazy, hoyer is just a transition guy, bortles own WR have been calling him out, cutler enough said, and Palmer has been crap since the panthers destroyed him in the NFC game.
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You're forgetting Drew Brees.
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I said the entire nfc south.
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My fantasy season is done. First DJ, now Dalvin. Oh well. Hope they recover well.
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Apparently Sam Darnold is going to stay in school so I wonder what the narrative will be for the NYJ fan tank brigade now?
Chosen Rosen.
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I said the entire nfc south.
Yes, you did. Sorry about that.
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Wilson is carried by that D (defense scored 9 points alone in the bowl, which would have won it). Flacco got lucky with boldin and Jones making him look good. Flacco just throws it up and relies totally on WR to win. Think about that D and who he had to win that bowl. Eli also relies on his WRs to make him look good I mean that D shut down Brady and Eli needed insane catches. Now OBJ has to save him and without him we saw how bad he is. Glennon was a back up for years and we all thought 15 million was crazy, hoyer is just a transition guy, bortles own WR have been calling him out, cutler enough said, and Palmer has been crap since the panthers destroyed him in the NFC game.

Meh, built in excuses to support your claims. At some point, EVERY NFL QB leans on some aspect of his respective team be it the run game, defense, etc. ya know football being a team sport and all.

And I got news for ya, EVERY NFL QB with a tall receiver who can jump heaves up 50/50 balls for their respective club. Even your beloved Brady used to do it with Moss all the time so that's another weak excuse. I mean, sh*t one could say that about Matt Ryan and his jump balls to Julio. Sometimes you've gotta just play to your strengths.

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Meh, built in excuses to support your claims. At some point, EVERY NFL QB leans on some aspect of his respective team be it the run game, defense, etc. ya know football being a team sport and all.

And I got news for ya, EVERY NFL QB with a tall receiver who can jump heaves up 50/50 balls for their respective club. Even your beloved Brady used to do it with Moss all the time so that's another weak excuse. I mean, sh*t one could say that about Matt Ryan and his jump balls to Julio. Sometimes you've gotta just play to your strengths.

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Can you give a single reason why the QBs you like are elite which does not include the word "superbowl Ring"?
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Meh, built in excuses to support your claims. At some point, EVERY NFL QB leans on some aspect of his respective team be it the run game, defense, etc. ya know football being a team sport and all.

And I got news for ya, EVERY NFL QB with a tall receiver who can jump heaves up 50/50 balls for their respective club. Even your beloved Brady used to do it with Moss all the time so that's another weak excuse. I mean, sh*t one could say that about Matt Ryan and his jump balls to Julio. Sometimes you've gotta just play to your strengths.

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Yeah when Flacco throw both those random passes to jones in the bowl and against the broncos those were 50/50. Haha. It’s not built in excuses I told you before I have no faith in Wilson, Eli or Flacco to win me a game when the chips are down But if you do good for you. Eli’s super bowl year he had 23 td and 20 int I mean damn he has 201 starts and 215 ints! Is that a good QB!
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Can you give a single reason why the QBs you like are elite which does not include the word "superbowl Ring"?

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