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Old 10-09-2017, 04:57 AM   #85461
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...e-powder-table

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In the video, the man -- whom multiple sources have identified as Foerster -- is seen using a $20 bill to snort the powdery substance off a table while speaking into the camera, saying, "Hey, I miss you. ... Thinking about you. ... How about me going to a meeting and doing this before I go.”
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Old 10-09-2017, 05:03 AM   #85462
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I agree that McCarthy needs to get rid of Capers. But that in no way strengthens your statement that a head coach needs to be defensive minded. to be highly successful. That's patently false. And yes, the last few winners have been coached by defensive-minded head coaches. But the defense alone hardly won it all for them. The Pats were third in the NFL in scoring last year with one of the top QBs of all-time. The Broncos did win it all, pretty much, with defense in 2015. In 2014, it was the Pats again winning it all, and they were third in scoring again. 2013 it was the Seahawks, and Pete Carroll is a defensive-minded coach. But they were also 8th in the NFL in scoring.

Before that? 2012 was The Ravens. John Harbaugh has coached both offense and defense. 2011 the Giants were clearly offensive driven under Tom Coughlin. 2010, the Packers won with McCarthy, an offensive guru. And the Packers beat the #1 defense in the NFL in the Super Bowl, by the way. 2009? The Saints won with Sean Payton, who is clearly an offensive-minded coach. 2008? Mike Tomlin and the Steelers; Tomlin is a defensive-minded coach. 2007? Coughlin and the Giants again. 2006? The Colts won with Tony Dungy, who was a D coordinator. But it was the Colts offense that won it for them. They were second in points scored, and 23rd in points allowed.

The point? There is no clear indicator that defensive-minded head coaches are more successful. Your logic is specious.

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Yeah and he has been letting that defense die for years. Even Rodgers called him out a few years ago. You don't have to have a defense coach sure but when your weakest part is the D and Rodgers is getting older might wanna look into it. Plus if you look at the last few years defensive mind coaches are leading the bowl.
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Old 10-09-2017, 05:07 AM   #85463
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So I guess there is a video of the Dolphins OL coach snorting cocaine.
And he will probably get a job before Kap.
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Old 10-09-2017, 05:07 AM   #85464
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I don't know it took Kevin Greene 17 years with 160 sacks. I just don't see JJ doing it considering he has less sacks than Von miller now. I just think with only 4 years and no rings he won't make it in. Megatron won't make it and he was the best receiver in the NFL for 4 years. The rings put Davis over the top finally after all the years. JJ is a great guy but he won't make the hall of fame.
I think you're absolutely crazy to think JJ and Megatron won't make it in.

We can only wait and see.
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Old 10-09-2017, 05:10 AM   #85465
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I agree that McCarthy needs to get rid of Capers. But that in no way strengthens your statement that a head coach needs to be defensive minded. to be highly successful. That's patently false. And yes, the last few winners have been coached by defensive-minded head coaches. But the defense alone hardly won it all for them. The Pats were third in the NFL in scoring last year with one of the top QBs of all-time. The Broncos did win it all, pretty much, with defense in 2015. In 2014, it was the Pats again winning it all, and they were third in scoring again. 2013 it was the Seahawks, and Pete Carroll is a defensive-minded coach. But they were also 8th in the NFL in scoring.

Before that? 2012 was The Ravens. John Harbaugh has coached both offense and defense. 2011 the Giants were clearly offensive driven under Tom Coughlin. 2010, the Packers won with McCarthy, an offensive guru. And the Packers beat the #1 defense in the NFL in the Super Bowl, by the way. 2009? The Saints won with Sean Payton, who is clearly an offensive-minded coach. 2008? Mike Tomlin and the Steelers; Tomlin is a defensive-minded coach. 2007? Coughlin and the Giants again. 2006? The Colts won with Tony Dungy, who was a D coordinator. But it was the Colts offense that won it for them. They were second in points scored, and 23rd in points allowed.

The point? There is no clear indicator that defensive-minded head coaches are more successful. Your logic is specious.
I didn't say defensive mind coaches win more but your examples were decades old. Rodgers could probably win with a freaking DUCK calling plays. It's time to bring in someone who can take control build that D up and let Rodgers finally get a second ring. Brady is the best but Jesus can't we get Rodgers one more than Flacco.
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Old 10-09-2017, 05:18 AM   #85466
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I think you're absolutely crazy to think JJ and Megatron won't make it in.

We can only wait and see.
I don't see megatron even with all his talent they didn't win much. JJ only has 4 years no one is talking about Elvis dumervil getting in and he has 25 more sacks than JJ. Megatron finished with less yards than Hines ward who also had 2 rings. Not to mention Tory holt who has 2,000 more yards than Johnson and a ring and still isn't in the hall. Owens isn't even in and he in number 2 or 3 on every list.
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Old 10-09-2017, 05:21 AM   #85467
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What a waste.
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Old 10-09-2017, 05:46 AM   #85468
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Tough way for the Giants to lose.
BURNNNNNNNN Elisha what a good day of football today, almost ran out of likes here.
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Old 10-09-2017, 05:53 AM   #85469
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Seriously??? Elvis Dumervil?

Dumervil's AV (Approximate Value) in 11 seasons (really 10 seasons, 150 games) is 77. Watt's AV in 5.5 seasons, 87 games, is 90. Dumervill might have 25 more sacks, but he played 63 more games. He recorded 17 sacks in a season twice. Watt had a season of 17.5 sacks, and two 20.5 sack seasons.

Dumervil went to five Pro Bowls, and was All Pro twice, again, in about ten seasons. Watt was a Pro Bowler in every full season but his rookie year, and was All Pro four times. And he was the AP Defensive Player of the Year twice. Watt was the dominant defensive player in the NFL.

Dumervil isn't even in the same class as Watt.

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I don't see megatron even with all his talent they didn't win much. JJ only has 4 years no one is talking about Elvis dumervil getting in and he has 25 more sacks than JJ. Megatron finished with less yards than Hines ward who also had 2 rings. Not to mention Tory holt who has 2,000 more yards than Johnson and a ring and still isn't in the hall. Owens isn't even in and he in number 2 or 3 on every list.
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Old 10-09-2017, 05:59 AM   #85470
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Seriously??? Elvis Dumervil?

Dumervil's AV (Approximate Value) in 11 seasons (really 10 seasons, 150 games) is 77. Watt's AV in 5.5 seasons, 87 games, is 90. Dumervill might have 25 more sacks, but he played 63 more games. He recorded 17 sacks in a season twice. Watt had a season of 17.5 sacks, and two 20.5 sack seasons.

Dumervil went to five Pro Bowls, and was All Pro twice, again, in about ten seasons. Watt was a Pro Bowler in every full season but his rookie year, and was All Pro four times. And he was the AP Defensive Player of the Year twice. Watt was the dominant defensive player in the NFL.

Dumervil isn't even in the same class as Watt.
Ugh I know. I'm just saying no one is talking about dumervil it's hard for me to see anyone talking about watt. Sack is the number one stat for them. Let's go Von miller he came in the same year and has more sacks already hall of famer no. Or what if Julius peppers retires this year ok JJ 76 to what Julius 152! Twice as many. My whole point was 4 years is not enough time and with no rings I don't think JJ watt gets in if his career is over. I mean damn Dez had the same injury last year and missed just 3 games.
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Old 10-09-2017, 10:56 AM   #85471
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Still pissed we lost in the exact same fashion to the Packers. It's like they didnt learn anything.

You can't allow that much time left on the clock.
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Old 10-09-2017, 10:58 AM   #85472
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Cowboys gonna Cowboy and Rodgers gonna Rodgers.
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Old 10-09-2017, 11:51 AM   #85473
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Sunday was a bad day for injuries. 4 Giants receivers went down in the same game, all with ankle injuries. Watt and Mercilus out for the season on same drive.
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Old 10-09-2017, 12:36 PM   #85474
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Agholor broke some ankles too:

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Old 10-09-2017, 01:03 PM   #85475
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Statement win for the Jaguars and currently sole position in the South. Still a little disappointed with that loss last week against NYJ. The team needs to play consistent!
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Old 10-09-2017, 02:00 PM   #85476
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Yeah he did! About time he finally got his head straight and is making some big plays.

Horrible news about JJ Watt. No doubt one of the good guys, both on and off the field. I’m not closing the book on him just yet. Guy is as tough as they come and wouldn’t surprise me to see him back next season stronger than ever.
If he’s unable to resume his career, I’m not so sure about the HoF. As it stands, no way he gets in as a first ballot. Unless the Hall allows more entrants per year the back log of candidates is only going to increase. Only four years and no rings is a tough call, but I wouldn’t mind if he got in.
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Old 10-09-2017, 02:04 PM   #85477
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I need Tarik Cohen to be a man on a mission tonight, and I know that will be quite the task... damn
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3x DPoY is basically 3 MVPs for a defensive player. No one with 3 of those is not getting in. The only question is when and how much the voters count his injury shortened? career against him.
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I need Tarik Cohen to be a man on a mission tonight, and I know that will be quite the task... damn
I’ve got him going tonight as well, although it’s just pad points for me.
Both my teams are still a disaster thanks to DeMarco Murray and Jay Ajayi being 100% steaming piles of dogsh*t so far. After this week I will be 2-3 in one league and 1-4 in the other. Just brutal!
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Old 10-09-2017, 02:38 PM   #85480
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I might be starting a new job that requires rookies to work Sundays
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