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Alex82 · 02-25-2018, 12:43 AM

I don't think the Jaguars are expecting Bortles to become a top QB, but they'll settle with an "elite game manager", someone able to avoid turnovers and also able to make 2 or 3 key throws per game, a la Trent Dilfer with the Ravens, Brad Johnson with the Buccanneers, or the most modern version, Alex Smith with the 49ers.

Of course, by doing that, they are also placing a lot of confidence in their running game and defense, and a lot of pressure as well, because unless you have a legendary defense and a very good running game (again, Baltimore 2000, Tampa 2002, Denver 2015), you can only get so far with a game manager (Alex Smith!).

ChadFL · 02-25-2018, 12:53 AM

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Well, we're ****ed. $22 mill a year for an average starting QB is shameful.

ChadFL · 02-25-2018, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex82

I don't think the Jaguars are expecting Bortles to become a top QB, but they'll settle with an "elite game manager", someone able to avoid turnovers and also able to make 2 or 3 key throws per game, a la Trent Dilfer with the Ravens, Brad Johnson with the Buccanneers, or the most modern version, Alex Smith with the 49ers.

Of course, by doing that, they are also placing a lot of confidence in their running game and defense, and a lot of pressure as well, because unless you have a legendary defense and a very good running game (again, Baltimore 2000, Tampa 2002, Denver 2015), you can only get so far with a game manager (Alex Smith!).

An 85 QB rating with 13 picks isn't even an effective game manager.

I would hardly call Brad Johnson a game manager in 2002. He was one of the best QB's in the league with a 93 QB rating, 3rd in the NFL. Not comparable to 2000 Baltimore or 2015 Denver's starting QB's who were far below the league average.

Alex82 · 02-25-2018, 01:13 AM

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An 85 QB rating with 13 picks isn't even an effective game manager.

I would hardly call Brad Johnson a game manager in 2002. He was one of the best QB's in the league with a 93 QB rating, 3rd in the NFL. Not comparable to 2000 Baltimore or 2015 Denver's starting QB's who were far below the league average.

But at the same time he was 16th in yards per attempt. He wasn't gunslinging, he was throwing short-medium passes, and was very effective, hence the "elite game manager" moniker I used.

ChadFL · 02-25-2018, 01:19 AM

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But at the same time he was 16th in yards per attempt. He wasn't gunslinging, he was throwing short-medium passes, and was very effective, hence the "elite game manager" moniker I used.

I just don't feel this is a move that makes financial sense. Should have gone all out trying to land Cousins. Paying Cousins close to $30 million makes more sense than Bortles at $22 million. If not Cousins use some picks to move up in the draft and land the QB they want. The Jags have most other positions stacked and can afford to give up some picks to move up.

Moviefan1203 · 02-25-2018, 12:16 PM

I’m just surprised Jacksonville didn’t go balls to the wall to get Cousins. Their window to win is now while much of their young talent is on cheap deals.

Waboman · 02-26-2018, 05:45 PM

Hmm...

Vikings reportedly won't franchise tag Case Keenum, but what's next for them at QB?

https://sports.yahoo.com/vikings-rep...175657729.html

Samus Aran · 02-26-2018, 07:03 PM

Kirk Cousins?

jwerk · 02-26-2018, 07:11 PM

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Hmm...

Vikings reportedly won't franchise tag Case Keenum, but what's next for them at QB?

https://sports.yahoo.com/vikings-rep...175657729.html

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Kirk Cousins?

The tag price is too high. I wouldn't be surprised to see them sign Keenum to a deal without the tag.

Cousins is a possibility too. Mutual interest, according to Gil Brandt.

ChadFL · 02-26-2018, 07:21 PM

Jets LB Dylan Donahue was arrested for a DWI after crashing his car into a bus in the Lincoln Tunnel driving in the wrong direction at 2am this morning. He failed sobriety and breathalyzer tests. He reportedly blew a .15, double the legal limit.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2...ash_in_li.html

BizCat · 02-26-2018, 07:27 PM

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Jets LB Dylan Donahue was arrested for a DWI after crashing his car into a bus in the Lincoln Tunnel driving in the wrong direction at 2am this morning. He failed sobriety and breathalyzer tests. He reportedly blew a .15, double the legal limit.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2...ash_in_li.html

Fliipin' idiot. Wish I could hand him his sentence......

Moviefan1203 · 02-26-2018, 07:42 PM

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Jets LB Dylan Donahue was arrested for a DWI after crashing his car into a bus in the Lincoln Tunnel driving in the wrong direction at 2am this morning. He failed sobriety and breathalyzer tests. He reportedly blew a .15, double the legal limit.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2...ash_in_li.html

Good grief.

Batman1980 · 02-26-2018, 09:01 PM

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The New York Times reports commissioner Roger Goodell is planning to fine Cowboys owner Jerry Jones "millions of dollars" for conduct detrimental to the league.

That conduct was Jones' "efforts to derail negotiations to renew Goodell’s contract," as well as his "outspoken defense" of Ezekiel Elliott. Per reporter Ken Belson, Goodell has been "reluctant to be seen as exacting retribution for the way Jones tried to sabotage his contract talks," but was "urged to bring the penalties by several owners who believed that Jones had crossed an unspoken boundary by threatening his colleagues." Jones has indeed spent most of the past year publicly bellowing about the league's boss. Expect a torrent of lawsuits and recriminations to follow.

Source - http://rotoworld.com/player/nfl/9450/jerry-jones

Moviefan1203 · 02-26-2018, 09:36 PM

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Source - http://rotoworld.com/player/nfl/9450/jerry-jones

Jerry Jones seems to be losing power amongst the owners.

Tony208 · 02-27-2018, 10:42 PM

Competition committee unanimous Dez Bryant catch was a catch and should be a catch

It was a catch all along and only the haters disagreed

#Dezcaughtit

Tony208 · 02-27-2018, 11:31 PM

Now i know what the Raiders feel like cause we got tuck ruled in our own way.

Moviefan1203 · 02-27-2018, 11:48 PM

NFL is being smart about the catch rule finally. If it looks like a catch, it's a catch. No need to overthink it.

Batman1980 · 02-28-2018, 12:00 AM

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Now i know what the Raiders feel like cause we got tuck ruled in our own way.

Difference is good chance A-Rod scores on us and we lose anyway.

Moviefan1203 · 02-28-2018, 12:23 AM

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Difference is good chance A-Rod scores on us and we lose anyway.

You can't play the 'what if' scenario. It will drive you crazy.

Galactus · 02-28-2018, 12:27 AM

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You can't play the 'what if' scenario. It will drive you crazy.

You sound like one that has been tormented by the 'what if' scenarios of Super Bowls past.

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02-25-2018, 12:43 AM	#94741
Alex82 Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2009 4K collection:241 Blu-ray collection:677 DVD collection:267 Trading Score:76	I don't think the Jaguars are expecting Bortles to become a top QB, but they'll settle with an "elite game manager", someone able to avoid turnovers and also able to make 2 or 3 key throws per game, a la Trent Dilfer with the Ravens, Brad Johnson with the Buccanneers, or the most modern version, Alex Smith with the 49ers. Of course, by doing that, they are also placing a lot of confidence in their running game and defense, and a lot of pressure as well, because unless you have a legendary defense and a very good running game (again, Baltimore 2000, Tampa 2002, Denver 2015), you can only get so far with a game manager (Alex Smith!).

02-25-2018, 12:16 PM	#94746
Moviefan1203 Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Pennsylvania, USA Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:45	I’m just surprised Jacksonville didn’t go balls to the wall to get Cousins. Their window to win is now while much of their young talent is on cheap deals.

02-26-2018, 05:45 PM	#94747
Waboman Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Dec 2009 Location:In a van down by the river 4K collection:199 Blu-ray collection:502 Trading Score:3	Hmm... Vikings reportedly won't franchise tag Case Keenum, but what's next for them at QB? https://sports.yahoo.com/vikings-rep...175657729.html

02-26-2018, 07:03 PM	#94748
Samus Aran Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Jun 2010 Location:USA Home Theater Gallery:11 4K collection:14 Blu-ray collection:49 Trading Score:195	Kirk Cousins?

02-26-2018, 07:21 PM	#94750
ChadFL Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Daytona Beach, FL Blu-ray collection:556 DVD collection:5	Jets LB Dylan Donahue was arrested for a DWI after crashing his car into a bus in the Lincoln Tunnel driving in the wrong direction at 2am this morning. He failed sobriety and breathalyzer tests. He reportedly blew a .15, double the legal limit. http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2...ash_in_li.html

02-27-2018, 10:42 PM	#94755
Tony208 Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:NYC 4K collection:419 Blu-ray collection:663 Trading Score:609	Competition committee unanimous Dez Bryant catch was a catch and should be a catch It was a catch all along and only the haters disagreed #Dezcaughtit

02-27-2018, 11:31 PM	#94756
Tony208 Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:NYC 4K collection:419 Blu-ray collection:663 Trading Score:609	Now i know what the Raiders feel like cause we got tuck ruled in our own way.

02-27-2018, 11:48 PM	#94757
Moviefan1203 Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Pennsylvania, USA Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:45	NFL is being smart about the catch rule finally. If it looks like a catch, it's a catch. No need to overthink it.

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