2025-2026 NFL Season Thread

[BizCat]

Originally Posted by Moviefan1203

I have a really hard time believing they go anything but QB at #1.

Please elaborate *why* Cleveland has to take a QB at #1, rather than later in the draft?

[dorothyv]

Originally Posted by BizCat

RB's are resurging. Look at Bell, Zeke, and Fournette. If Tyrod goes down, I'm speculating that Drew Stanton is the next to start. You trust Drew to handle games and put Cleveland in winning contention, without a credible RB to hand-off to?

You need to be multi-dimensional anyway.. I don't want Cleveland to rely heavily on the passing game at all times.

Carlos Hyde and Duke Johnson are a very nice duo.

[BizCat]

Originally Posted by dorothyv

Carlos Hyde and Duke Johnson are a very nice duo.

Hyde is inconsistent.
Duke has a good passing game.

Neither are long-term solutions.

[BagheeraMcGee]

Originally Posted by fatediesel

Yeah, pretty much every "expert" is just guessing what the Browns will do because John Dorsey has played this extremely close to the vest and nobody seems to truly know what he's planning on doing. Supposedly he hasn't told anyone his plans, including owner Jimmy Haslam.

I also read that he isn't letting Hue Jackson know until late tomorrow evening who the pick is. I'm guessing this is to prevent Hue from telling his good buddy Mike Silver before anyone else and then it's all over the internet.

Personally, I love the way Dorsey's handling things. I actually think Todd Haley has more sway with Dorsey than Hue does in terms of 'what he likes/wants in a QB' and so on.

[BizCat]

Originally Posted by BagheeraMcGee

I also read that he isn't letting Hue Jackson know until late tomorrow evening who the pick is. I'm guessing this is to prevent Hue from telling his good buddy Mike Silver before anyone else and then it's all over the internet.

Personally, I love the way Dorsey's handling things. I actually think Todd Haley has more sway with Dorsey than Hue does in terms of 'what he likes/wants in a QB' and so on.

I am A-OK with that!

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by BizCat

Please elaborate *why* Cleveland has to take a QB at #1, rather than later in the draft?

It’s the most important position in the game. You have the #1 pick and don’t have a franchise QB. Trust your evaluation process and scouts. You hopefully won’t be in a position to get a QB this high next season. Now is your opportunity. Seize the day. Put your nuts on the table and go get your boy.

[BizCat]

Originally Posted by Moviefan1203

It’s the most important position in the game. You have the #1 pick and don’t have a franchise QB. Trust your evaluation process and scouts. You hopefully won’t be in a position to get a QB this high next season. Now is your opportunity. Seize the day. Put your nuts on the table and go get your boy.

It’s the most important position in the game.

Correct.

You have the #1 pick and don’t have a franchise QB.
Having the #1 pick doesn't just mean it has to be a QB, especially when they have Tyrod who can play right now.


Trust your evaluation process and scouts.
And none of these guys are definite stars in the making. Injuries aside, we knew guys like Luck, Stafford, and much older QB's that went #1 were pretty much a safe bet. And there's a long list of QB's that went #1 that didn't pan out - or at least have the success that they should have. So yes, by all means, trust the evaluation process and scouts - these guys aren't "it".

You hopefully won’t be in a position to get a QB this high next season.
Next year is not a concern. Tyrod, veteran Stanton, and an upcoming QB in the 2nd round or whatever will be just fine.

Put your nuts on the table and go get your boy.

[BizCat]

QB's taken in the first round: (aside from the known-greats)

2015 - Jameis Winston, TB
2011 - Cam Newton, Carolina meh..
2010 - Sam Bradford, StL Injuries, mainly..
2009 - Matthew Stafford, Detroit
2007 - Jamarcus Russell, Oakland
2005 - Alex Smith, SF Poor guy has had crap luck with teams.
2002 - David Carr, Houston
2001 - Michael Vick, Atlanta
1999 - Tim Couch, Cleveland Not all his fault, though..
1990 - Jeff George, Indianapolis
1987 - Vinny Testaverde, TB
1975 - Steve Bartkowski, Atlanta

Some on here were of course pretty good, but maybe not #1 overall good.

Super Bowl Winning QB's:
Nick Foles - Round 3, Pick 88
Tom Brady - Round 6, Pick 199
Peyton Manning, Round 1, Pick 1
Russell Wilson, Round 3, Pick 75
Joe Flacco, Round 1, Pick 18
Eli Manning, Round 1, Pick 1
Ben Roethlisberger, Round 1, Pick 11
Aaron Rodgers, Round 1, Pick 24
Drew Brees, Round 2, Pick 32
Kurt Warner, undrafted
Brad Johnson, Round 9, Pick 227
Trent Dilfer, Round 1, Pick 6
John Elway, Round 1, Pick 1
Brett Favre, Round 2, Pick 33
Troy Aikman, Round 1, Pick 1
Steve Young, Round 1 (1984 Supplemental)
Mark Rypien, Round 6, Pick 146
Joe Montana, Round 3, Pick 82

I can go on. But while some on here went #1 overall, the majority did not. Maybe in the first round - but most of the legendary QB's we think of were not even drafted in the first round, outside P. Manning, Elway, and maybe Aikman, (Brady, Montana, Favre, Warner, Brees)

[Veronica Mars]

If the Browns take Barkley #1, they will win the Super Bowl within 3 years.

[imsounoriginal]

[TitansFan4Life]

Originally Posted by Moviefan1203

It’s the most important position in the game. You have the #1 pick and don’t have a franchise QB. Trust your evaluation process and scouts. You hopefully won’t be in a position to get a QB this high next season. Now is your opportunity. Seize the day. Put your nuts on the table and go get your boy.

I was admittedly not a believer in Wentz before he was drafted (I’m sold now), but I said the Browns should take Watson at #1 last year. Due to their stupidity, we now have this beast in the AFC South to deal with.

Pretty embarrassing to be staring at Wentz/Watson back to back years and pass on them.

I hope they take Mayfield and he becomes Johnny 2.0. I feel bad for Browns fans, but it’s just too funny to me.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by Veronica Mars

If the Browns take Barkley #1, they will win the Super Bowl within 3 years.

Running backs don't carry teams to Super Bowls these days. QB's do that.

[BizCat]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/...NI8?ocid=ientp

[BizCat]

Originally Posted by TitansFan4Life

I was admittedly not a believer in Wentz before he was drafted (I’m sold now), but I said the Browns should take Watson at #1 last year. Due to their stupidity, we now have this beast in the AFC South to deal with.

Pretty embarrassing to be staring at Wentz/Watson back to back years and pass on them.

I hope they take Mayfield and he becomes Johnny 2.0. I feel bad for Browns fans, but it’s just too funny to me.

Even if they took them, they would not have had the success they're having.

[RageATL]

Originally Posted by Samus Aran

Julio Jones is trending on Twitter. He apparently deleted all Falcons pics, unfollowed his Falcons connections and made his account private.

Originally Posted by Moviefan1203

People really read way too much into things.

It's hilarious, Falcons fans down here lost their damn minds over this, my nephew included.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Moviefan1203

A lot of it has to do with positional value. QB’s and pass rushers are way more valuable than RB’s. Especially so with the 5th year option on rookie contracts.

Always agreed with Bill Parcells that due to the average shelf life of RBs (5 years), they are only rarely worth a 1st round pick.

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by Batman1980

Always agreed with Bill Parcells that due to the average shelf life of RBs (5 years), they are only rarely worth a 1st round pick.

I’d be fine taking one in the back half of round 1. That 5th year option is a nice perk to have. But yeah, RB’s in general, aren’t valued nearly as high as several other positions.

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by RageATL

It's hilarious, Falcons fans down here lost their damn minds over this, my nephew included.

And I’m sure you threw some kerosene on that fire didn’t you?

[BizCat]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Barry Sanders played 10 years.
Walter Payton played 13 years.
Jim Brown played 9 years.
Emmitt Smith played 14 years.
Eric Dickerson played 11 years.
Earl Campbell played 8 years.
LaDainian Tonlinson played 11 years.
Marshall Faulk played 12 years.
Adrian Peterson has played 11 years.

This whole "shelf life" narrative, whatever you call it, and positional value claims I find purely bogus. Sure, the style of today's play has changed some over the years, but you still need a threatening RB to be a threat. Or a valid running back committee, which most of the times aren't that great.. Philly and NE aside.

[RageATL]

The more I try to read through some of the smoke screens that are being floated around on Twitter, the more I think we're taking Rosen over Mayfield. I really want Mayfield, but I think it's about fit with the organization as it currently stands and I think the NYJ feel more confident that Jeremy Bates (OC) can be the man to rein Rosen in and show him the ropes.