2025-2026 NFL Season Thread - Page 4801 - Blu-ray Forum

BizCat · 04-25-2018, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moviefan1203

Barkley is a great talent, but I don't think Guice is that far off from him.

Guice is probably the 2nd best RB in the draft, but there's a good amount of separation between him and Barkley. This same statement can be applied to QB's as well... there are other QB's that have similar skills or talent to the top 4.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChadFL

The play style of the NFL has not merely changed, it's been transformed. It's a strongly pass first league. These days an 85-90 QB rating isn't guaranteed to keep a guy his starting job. 30 years ago that was an elite passer rating. Running backs are the Ford Pintos of the NFL. They once served a purpose but they aren't a necessary component anymore.

Whether it's a one man star or a decent committee, you still need RB's to get it done. Barkley isn't just a power runner as he's talented in other aspects. Just because the playing style has 'transformed' doesn't mean every team needs to conform. Great defense and great run and go very far. Great running backs can make weaker QB's look like stars (Fournette, Zeke).

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitansFan4Life

I agree, but that’s not a reason to pass on a player. The Browns have certainly been a mess, but for them to pass on potential franchise QBs due to the fact they’re a mess is like throwing in the towel.

You may need to keep them on the bench longer to make sure they don’t die out there. But, definitely in hindsight, it was a huge mistake for them to pass on a Wentz and again Watson.

I absolutely agree that in hindsight, they missed out on these guys. I wonder too if some of these guys purposely look bad to NOT be drafted by Cleveland - sounds crazy, but makes you wonder.. but like I said, had Cleveland drafted Wentz a few years ago, fans would be upset because he'd be another bust. Cleveland does not take the time with the QB's, and he'd be no different than the others.

Rodney-2187 · 04-25-2018, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moviefan1203

We shall see, man!

I’ll be seeing Infinity War, so I’ll have to read about it. I hate that.

Batman1980 · 04-25-2018, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rodneyfaile

Things might be different on draft day.

Everything I've seen and heard over the years is you rarely get good value for players and picks during the draft. So yes, we will see.

Alex82 · 04-25-2018, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChadFL

The play style of the NFL has not merely changed, it's been transformed. It's a strongly pass first league. These days an 85-90 QB rating isn't guaranteed to keep a guy his starting job. 30 years ago that was an elite passer rating. Running backs are the Ford Pintos of the NFL. They once served a purpose but they aren't a necessary component anymore.

Your post reminds me of those really old games, I'm talking pre-1978 games.

A few years ago I used to watch a lot of those, and not just the NFL Network kind (Super Bowls, Greatest Games), but plain regular season games, and the game has changed so, so much.

For example, you're watching those old games, it's 1st down, and what do most teams do? Run the ball. Second down, run the ball, frequently handling the ball to the Fullback. Third down, if it's 3rd and less than 5 yards... run the ball. If it's 3rd & 5+ yards, a very simple pass, typically 10 yards or less in the air, and the WRs ran very simple routes, posts or slants.

Usually there wasn't much time for fancier stuff, because the DBs were allowed to manhandle the receivers from beginning to end. With the 1978 rule changes, they introduced the five yards limit and the passing game finally was a potent weapon. Before that, only guys like Fouts, Bradshaw, Staubach, Stabler, etc. could dominate the game.

And oh my goodness, the Kickers were absolutely awful. They routinely missed FGs if they were 30 yards or longer, and they missed extra points like crazy; they used that weird style of kicking the ball like they were pushing it with the foot.

The only thing I missed from that pre-1978 era, are the tackles. Clean tackles with their arms, usually grabbing the legs or feet. Today, defensive players want to be human spears and send the offensive players directly to their butts. I don't know if they are afraid of missing tackles with their arms or what, but the tackles are not as clean as they used to be.

I must say this, though, modern games are much more entertaining, even if the game is perceived now as softer.

fatediesel · 04-25-2018, 01:08 PM

Former Florida wide receiver Antonio Callaway tested positive for marijuana at the combine, per Adam Schefter. Callaway's agent said the positive test was for a diluted sample because Callaway was over-hydrated (Callaway's current agent wasn't his agent at the combine, as Callaway and his original agent parted ways after learning of the positive test). Regardless, it's just another red flag for Callaway who already was a risky pick who has had numerous issues and was suspended the entire 2017 season:

Quote:

This latest development fits into the aforementioned off-field history, which has included with a sexual assault allegation (of which he was eventually cleared), a misdemeanor marijuana citation, and involvement in a credit-card scam that saddled him with two third-degree felony charges (that could ultimately be dismissed upon completion of a pre-trial intervention) and a season-long suspension. Additionally, Callaway admitted in a combine interview to smoking marijuana about six weeks prior, according to NFL Network's Tom Pelissero.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ple-at-combine

BizCat · 04-25-2018, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatediesel

Former Florida wide receiver Antonio Callaway tested positive for marijuana at the combine, per Adam Schefter. Callaway's agent said the positive test was for a diluted sample because Callaway was over-hydrated (Callaway's current agent wasn't his agent at the combine, as Callaway and his original agent parted ways after learning of the positive test). Regardless, it's just another red flag for Callaway who already was a risky pick who has had numerous issues and was suspended the entire 2017 season:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ple-at-combine

He's a sure bet to get drafted by SF.

Or Cincinnati.

Batman1980 · 04-25-2018, 01:23 PM

Or Dallas, Jerry loves his reclamation projects.

fatediesel · 04-25-2018, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Batman1980

Or Dallas, Jerry loves his reclamation projects.

I'd hope Jerry learned his lesson with Randy Gregory.

RageATL · 04-25-2018, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatediesel

I'd hope Jerry learned his lesson with Randy Gregory.

Batman1980 · 04-25-2018, 01:56 PM

I can't believe the draft is tomorrow, wish I could be at the Star with the rabid fans who will be giving Roger the business.

BizCat · 04-25-2018, 02:03 PM

Yep.. I hear ol' Rage is ordering beer and wings and having it delivered to all our various residences.

Thanks buddy!

Moviefan1203 · 04-25-2018, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BizCat

Yep.. I hear ol' Rage is ordering beer and wings and having it delivered to all our various residences.

Thanks buddy!

What a guy!

RageATL · 04-25-2018, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BizCat

Yep.. I hear ol' Rage is ordering beer and wings and having it delivered to all our various residences.

Thanks buddy!

Yep, with Biz's credit card!!!

BizCat · 04-25-2018, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RageATL

Yep, with Biz's credit card!!!

Oh, son of a..!!!!

BizCat · 04-25-2018, 04:31 PM

April 25, 2009......

With the first pick of the 2009 NFL Draft, the Detroit Lions select Matthew Stafford.

BagheeraMcGee · 04-25-2018, 04:32 PM

All this talk of food has made me curious what all of you are planning for your "Draft Feast"?

I am getting 2 orders of "Skillet Shrooms" as a side (large white button mushrooms mixed in with Italian meatballs, caramelized onions cooked in au jus, covered in Monterey Jack and mozzarella cheeses) from The Rock Wood Fired Grill, as well as an XL pizza with pepperoni, mushrooms and Italian sausage from Extreme Pizza down the street (The Rock has good pizza, but I prefer Extreme).

RageATL · 04-25-2018, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BagheeraMcGee

All this talk of food has made me curious what all of you are planning for your "Draft Feast"?

I am getting 2 orders of "Skillet Shrooms" as a side (large white button mushrooms mixed in with Italian meatballs, caramelized onions cooked in au jus, covered in Monterey Jack and mozzarella cheeses) from The Rock Wood Fired Grill, as well as an XL pizza with pepperoni, mushrooms and Italian sausage from Extreme Pizza down the street (The Rock has good pizza, but I prefer Extreme).

About 20+ of us from my area are heading here:

https://www.loyalq.com/

BagheeraMcGee · 04-25-2018, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RageATL

About 20+ of us from my area are heading here:

https://www.loyalq.com/

Oh, you're going the BBQ route!

Very good stuff! That menu looks awesome!

BizCat · 04-25-2018, 05:10 PM

I have no idea yet! But wings are always an option.

Moviefan1203 · 04-25-2018, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RageATL

About 20+ of us from my area are heading here:

https://www.loyalq.com/

View Poll Results: Which team will win Super Bowl LIV
San Francisco 49ers	28	50.91%
Kansas City Chiefs	27	49.09%
Voters: 55. You may not vote on this poll

04-25-2018, 01:23 PM	#96007
Batman1980 Blu-ray Jedi Member since:Feb 2009 Location:District 13 Home Theater Gallery:8 4K collection:146 Blu-ray collection:394 DVD collection:57 Blu-ray reviews:22 Trading Score:48	Or Dallas, Jerry loves his reclamation projects.

04-25-2018, 01:56 PM	#96010
Batman1980 Blu-ray Jedi Member since:Feb 2009 Location:District 13 Home Theater Gallery:8 4K collection:146 Blu-ray collection:394 DVD collection:57 Blu-ray reviews:22 Trading Score:48	I can't believe the draft is tomorrow, wish I could be at the Star with the rabid fans who will be giving Roger the business.

04-25-2018, 02:03 PM	#96011
BizCat Blu-ray Prince Member since:Mar 2016 Location:oHIo 4K collection:916 Blu-ray collection:3134 DVD collection:90 Trading Score:159	Yep.. I hear ol' Rage is ordering beer and wings and having it delivered to all our various residences. Thanks buddy!

04-25-2018, 04:31 PM	#96015
BizCat Blu-ray Prince Member since:Mar 2016 Location:oHIo 4K collection:916 Blu-ray collection:3134 DVD collection:90 Trading Score:159	April 25, 2009...... With the first pick of the 2009 NFL Draft, the Detroit Lions select Matthew Stafford.

04-25-2018, 04:32 PM	#96016
BagheeraMcGee Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2014 Location:Back in the Pacific Northwest 4K collection:440 Blu-ray collection:4649 DVD collection:290 Trading Score:1	All this talk of food has made me curious what all of you are planning for your "Draft Feast"? I am getting 2 orders of "Skillet Shrooms" as a side (large white button mushrooms mixed in with Italian meatballs, caramelized onions cooked in au jus, covered in Monterey Jack and mozzarella cheeses) from The Rock Wood Fired Grill, as well as an XL pizza with pepperoni, mushrooms and Italian sausage from Extreme Pizza down the street (The Rock has good pizza, but I prefer Extreme).

04-25-2018, 05:10 PM	#96019
BizCat Blu-ray Prince Member since:Mar 2016 Location:oHIo 4K collection:916 Blu-ray collection:3134 DVD collection:90 Trading Score:159	I have no idea yet! But wings are always an option.

Best Blu-ray Movie Deals